(Lorren or MacLorren or McLorren or O'Lorren or
Laurin or MacLaurin or McLaurin or O'Laurin)
and his descendants
Updated 23 Feb. 2003
My link with this family is shown in bold "red".
The following information on the extensive family of our "COMMON" sire John Lorren is a constant work in progress. As new information comes my way I will update this section to include adding and deleting information so I encourage you to check back every now and then for just such changes. This information is to be used much like a "springboard" to perhaps put you in a direction of travel. I owe a tremendous debt to:
Payne Daniel for his willingness to share the information available on his web page at (http://paynedaniel.com/) with me so that I could combine our information and bring you the most comprehensive Lorren information available to the "net" and to our extended family.
Mildred Perry for her willingness to share her vast knowledge of our Lorren and related families. Mildred writes genealogy articles for the Cleburne News - People in Your Past
J.B. Lorren for his unselfish willingness to share information. I met J.B. in the 80s, lost contact, and found him again this year. I have talked with him on many occasions and regret that I have not been able to travel and give him a great big hug and thank you in person for all that he has done for our Lorren family research efforts.
Graylin Smith, another Knighton, Pollard, Lorren researcher, wrote me Feb 2003 and added information on his family. Graylin's email address is graylinsmith@yahoo.com.
I wish to make known two areas on this list that have enough unanswered questions to make the information as I present here questionable. The first is that there is a possibility that James B. Lorren (married to Jerri Ann Knighten) is the son of George A. Lorren and not John L.C. Lorren as I have listed below...if you choose to believe that James is the son of John L.C., then you must also assume that John L.C. Lorren had a first, unknown wife and pursue (along with me) documentation to back this assumption up. You must also get a copy of the 1910 census (Alabama-Cleburne Co.) as this is the document that puts James B.'s parentage in question. The second question that you must consider involves whether George "Pap" Lorren is the son of Julia Pollard Knighten Lorren or Martha Price Lorren. The 1880 Census lists John and Julia's second son as "George, age 9". It is uncertain whether Julia and Martha both had sons named George. I have moved George's place in the line as the last child of John and Julia (1.1.5.7 instead of 1.1.5.2) until I determine for sure how many George Pap's there were. Researchers should also know that George "Pap" is listed on a page taken from the Lorren Bible but there is no birth date that would resolve who his mother was (at least that I have). I ask that if you have documentation or obtain documentation resolving or confirming any information listed herein, please let me know.
I have not been able to take the "Lorren" surname back any further than
I have listed below (John Lorren's marriage to Julia Ann McPherson).
It is always possible that this is the "first" Lorren, but I don't
believe this is
so. I think there is a strong possibility that the Lorren surname
was once
"O" Lorren or "Mac" Lorren...and it is also very likely that the original
spelling was not "Lorren" - indeed, searching for the surname "Lorren"
prior to George A. Lorren #1.1. below proved futile...so I started reviewing
my documents again...other researchers had listed John and and Julia Ann
(McPherson) as "Lorren" and their children with the "Lorren" spelling and
spelled their daughter's name "Jerusha" and went on to state that Jerusha
and her brothers were orphaned at a young age and that Jerusha went to
live with her McPherson relatives; furthermore, the researchers stated
this was shown in the 1850 Blount County, Alabama Census. This evening,
March 1, 2002, I finally had the opportunity to review the Census and this
is what I found (note the McPherson information is correct as research
shows through documentation of the McPherson line):
| HN | FN | Last Name | First Name | Age | Sex | Occup. | Val. | Birth-
place |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Daniel | 48 | M | Farmer | 500 | Ten. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Debyan | 44 | F | -------- | ------- | S.C. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Wm. | 23 | M | Farmer | ------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | George | 21 | M | Farmer | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Elizabeth | 13 | F | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | John D. | 16 | M | Farmer | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Lucy | 11 | F | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Richard | 9 | M | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Nancy | 7 | F | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Jas. | 5 | M | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | McPherson | Monroe | 3 | M | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | LAURIN | Jarncia | 28 | F | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | Sims | Robert | 28 | M | Farmer | 150 | S.C. |
| 495 | 498 | Sims | Ann | 18 | F | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
| 495 | 498 | Young | Eliza | 19 | F | -------- | -------- | Ala. |
Looking at the above it is easy and reasonable to understand how "Laurin" could become "Lorren" and how "Jarncia" could become "Jerusha" - Both spellings of "Lorren" sound alike and "Jarncia" could have been read as "Jarucia" or "Jerusha" which would be a letter error.
Then I compared the McPherson information for the above McPherson family and this is what I found:
1.1.1.2.6 George
McPHERSON
(note)
Then I looked at the 1860 Census for Calhoun Co., Ala where George "Lorren"
(Jarncia/Jerusha's brother) is listed:
Alabama's Cleburne Co. 1860 Census Excerpt:
1860 CENSUS
b. 1 Jan 1784 Hawkins Co.,
Tn
d. abt 1869 Blount Co., Al.
m. Nancy Ann KINCHELOE (dau of George KINCHELOE and
Sarah BUCKNER) 1799 in Washington Co., Tn
Children:
1.1.1.2.6.1 Daniel R. McPHERSON
b. 1801, Roane Co., Tn.,
d. abt 1883, Blount Co., Al.
m. Debbie Ann DAVENPORT
on
5 Dec 1824 Blount
Co. Ala
b. abt 1806
Children:
1.1.1.2.6.1.1 William Kincheloe McPherson
b. 1827-28
d. 1863
m. Susan J. McDONALD
Children:
1.1.1.2.6.1.1.1 Charles McPherson
b. 21 Apr 1859
d. 18 Aug 1870
1.1.1.2.6.1.1.2 Elijah McPherson
b. 9 Mar 1861
m. Mary Bessie TARRANT
Children:
2.1 Alva Lewis McPherson
b. 7 Jul 1907
m. Emma Lee JOHNSON
b. 3 Dec 1911
2.2 Mary Tarrant McPherson
b. 12 Apr 1914
1.1.1.2.6.1.2 Debbie Ann McPherson
b. 1828 Blount Co., Al.
d. 15 April 1894
m. Alexander WHALEY
23 Sept. 1842 Blount Co., Al
1.1.1.2.6.1.3 George McPherson
b. 1829
1.1.1.2.6.1.4 John Davenport McPherson
b. 1833-34 Blount Co., Al
d. before 1867
m. Sarah Ann STEPHENS
26 Sept. 1857
b. 1841/2 Ga
Her second marriage was
4 July 1867 Blount Co., Al.
to Docker B. Sapp
1.1.1.2.6.1.5 Elizabeth McPherson
b. 1836-37
1.1.1.2.6.1.6 Lucy T. McPherson
b. 8 Sept. 1839 Blount Co., Al
d. 3 May 1907 Jefferson Co., Al
m. James M. WOOTEN aka CANDLER
5 Oct. 1856 Blount Co., Al
1.1.1.2.6.1.7 Richard McPherson
b. 1840-41
1.1.1.2.6.1.8 Nancy McPherson
b. 1842-43
m. Wilson M. BROWN
6 Oct. 1860 Blount Co., Al
1.1.1.2.6.1.9 James Cullen McPherson
b. 1844-45
m. (1) Susan J. McDonald
21 June 1869
m. (2) Mildred Evelyn White
28 April 1885
1.1.1.2.6.1.10 Monroe Lafayette McPherson (twin)
b. 1847-48
1.1.1.2.6.1.11 Newton H. McPherson (twin)
b. 1847-48
1.1.1.2.6.1.12 Orpha I.H. McPherson
b. 1849-50
m. Thomas Sawyer
Children:
1.1.1.2.6.1.12.1 Thomas Sawyer, Jr.
1.1.1.2.6.1.12.2 Lewis Sawyer
1.1.1.2.6.1.12.3 Henry Sawyer
State of Alabama
Calhoun County
Sheet 439
| Surname: Lorren | Sex | Age | Born |
| George A. | Male | 42 | Missouri |
| Elizabeth | Female | 35 | Georgia |
| Margaret | Female | 18 | Georgia |
| William | Male | 16 | Georgia |
| George | Male | 15 | Georgia |
| Catherine | Female | 13 | Georgia |
| John | Male | 12 | Georgia |
| Sarah | Female | 9 | Georgia |
| Martha | Female | 7 | Alabama |
| Elizabeth | Female | 3 | Alabama |
Value of Real Estate $200
Value of Personal Estate $575
Occupation Farmer
1870 CENSUS Excerpt
M593 Roll 12
Township 19 Range 11
July 18, 1870
Edwardsville Post Office
Cleburne County
| Surname: Lorren | Sex | Age | Occupation | Born |
| George A. | Male | 51 | Farmer | Missouri |
| Elizabeth | Female | 45 | Housewife | Georgia |
| Margaret | Female | 27 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| George | Male | 24 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| Catherine | Female | 21 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| Sarah | Female | 19 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| Martha | Female | 16 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| James | Male | 9 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| Thomas | Male | 5 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| Missouri | Female | 2 | ----------------- | ----------- |
| George S. | Male | 1 | ----------------- | ----------- |
In the SOUNDEX, the name was spelled Lorron. On the Census, the name is spelled Lorren. In the 1870 Census, (M593 Roll 9 Page 12 Township 19 Range 11) Edwardsville Post Office, Elizabeth is listed as Martha. On the 1860 Federal Census for Calhoun Co., the wife of George A. Lorren is shown as Elizabeth.
Now I will search the "Laurin" surname and keep in mind that family stories state that the "Lorren" name once began with an "O"Lorren or "Mac"Lorren eventually dropping the "O"/"Mac".
Comments are welcome....
I will be adding "date information" and "notes" to the individuals in this data bank as time allows. If you find a name that you need information on before I have it put up, please Email me!
1. John LORREN/LAURIN
(notes)
b. Betw.
1791-95 Hawkins Co., Tn
d. Betw. 1827-1834
Note:
Some researchers believe this John is the first Lorren in the U.S. and
is
the British sailor that is mentioned throughout other researchers' works
stating that there were two Johns - a Senior (above) and a Junior (the
John son listed below)- I dispute this in that I believe and have researched
on the assumption that the above Lorren is the Jr. I have requested
records that I hope will verify what I believe to be the case - that there
was indeed another "John Lorren" father to John above (making him
the Jr.). In thinking about this, I have used as my springboard family
and
other researchers' belief that John was a British sailor, his reasons for
coming "South", family stories handed down, and a timeline of events
in history relative to birth and death records. I will update as
soon as
I have received the information that may clear this controversy up.
m. Julia Ann MCPHERSON abt
1815 in Roane Co., Tn (notes)
b. Betw. 1794-1797 Hawkins
Co., Tn
d. 1829
Children:
1.1 George
A. LORREN/LAURIN (notes)
b. abt. 1818 (Jefferson, Tn or Missouri as listed on Census)
d. 25 Aug 1889
Note: It is also possible that George is the second son and his brother
John is the first born and the daughter, Jerusha, the baby. I list
George as first as I have found no records on the son John's
birth.
m. Elizabeth Martha D. ROBBERSON or ROBERTSON
22
Apr 1841 Carrollton, Carroll Co., Ga
Note: 1. Carroll County Georgia Tax Digest 1842 - transcriber of
this
document lists a "George A. LOVIN" 653 8 - I believe this may be
a transcription error for "Lorren"; also, Elijah McPherson Agt 813 7
listed on this tax roll - Elijah McPherson was a brother of George's
mother-
2. GEORGIA CIVIL WAR SOLDIER INDEX - Page 174 -
states a G.A. "Loren" Private served in Company H, 1st Reg't, GA
and then gives a G.A. "Lorren" Private served in Company H,
1st Reg't, GA Cav. - This is probably the same G.A.
b. 1825 Ga
d. Aft. 1880
Children:
1.1.1 Margaret LORREN
b. 11 Nov. 1843 Cleburne
Co., AL
d. betw. 1880-1932
buried: Oak Level, AL
m. Allen SMITH aft 1852 at Camp Creek
Children:
1.1.1.1 George SMITH
b. 20 Oct. 1869
m. Almary PALMER betw. 1886/1919
1.1.1.2 Samuel SMITH
b. 12 Nov 1876
m. Emma PALMER betw. 1893/1926
1.1.1.3 Ella Madora SMITH
b. 6 Aug 1878
m. William BAILEY betw 1892/1925
1.1.2 William Jefferson LORREN
b. 10 Apr 1844 Ga
buried Oak Level Methodist Church Cemetery, Cleburn Co., Ala.
d. 22 Nov 1914
m. Nancy (Narcissa) Jane WEST abt 1858
b. 1 Nov 1838 Ga
d. 28 Oct.1926 Borden Springs, Al
buried beside her husband
(L.R. Lorren lists the wife as Jane Platt - dau of Lampkin Platt; their
gravestones read: W.J. Lorren, Born Apr. 10, 1840,
Died Nov. 22, 1914; Nancy Plott Lorren, Born Nov. 1, 1838,
Died Oct. 28, 1926)
Notes: Appears 1880 and 1910 Cenus Cleburne Co., Alabama
Children:
1.1.2.1 William B. LORREN
b. abt. 1867 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Al
m. Emma REED (REID)
m. bef. 1910
b. 1892
Notes: appears on 1920 Alabama Census; Emma was the dau of
Joseph B. Reid and Helena Carrie HART)
Children:
1.1.2.1.1 Alma D. LORREN
b. after 1900 - date withheld
1.1.2.1.2 Leon "Jutson" LORREN
b. 1912 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Al
buried Bogolusa, Washington Co., Al
m. Josephine Jean SAVOIE
b. aft 1900 - date withheld)
Children:
1.1.2.1.2.1 Loy Raymond "Pug" LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date and place withheld
m. Margaret J. RAGLAND
b. aft 1900 - date and place withheld
Notes: Margaret was the dau of William B.
Ragland and Cora Lee COOPER
Children:
1.1.2.1.2.1.1 Shelley R. LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
1.1.2.1.2.2 Lonnie D. LORREN
1.1.2.1.2.3 Schandra Jean LORREN
1.1.2.1.3 Rachal LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
1.1.2.1.4 Cleo LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
1.1.2.1.5 Willie LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
1.1.2.2 Elizabeth "Martha" LORREN
b. 1869 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Al
1.1.2.3 Sarah LORREN
b. 1872 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Al
m. I.E. MILLER 28 Feb 1889 Calhoun Co., Al
1.1.2.4 John Thomas LORREN
b. 28 Dec 1873 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Al
d. 6 Feb 1959
buried Oak Level Cemetery, Cleburne Co., Al
m. Carrie L. ? on 28 Oct 1893
b. 7 Mar 1877
Note: she is buried beside her husband; no date on headstone
Children:
1.1.2.4.1 Lela LORREN
b. 4 Aug 1897
m. Charles POTTS
1.1.2.4.2 Mervin M. LORREN
b. 29 Mar 1900
d. betw. 1921/1990
m. Maude BEACHAM
Children (birth order unknown):
1.1.2.4.2.1 Paul LORREN
m. Ruby BYERS (photo)
Notes: Ruby dau of Pat Byers and Bessie ?
Children:
1.1.2.4.2.1.1 Kathy LORREN (photo)
m. Richard POLLARD (photo)
1.1.2.4.2.1.2 William Bill LORREN
m. Sarah Glenda IVY
Children:
1.1.3.4.2.2.1.1 William S. LORREN
1.1.3.4.2.2.1.2 William C. LORREN
1.1.2.4.2.2 Henry LORREN
1.1.2.4.2.3 Pete LORREN
1.1.2.4.2.4 Melvin LORREN
1.1.2.4.2.5 Jaunita LORREN
1.1.2.4.3 Willie Mae LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
m. Paul JONES
1.1.2.4.4 Ruth LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
m. Ervin MORSE
1.1.2.4.5 Gladys LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
m. L.K. TYLER
1.1.2.4.6 Flora LORREN
m. Edward GALLAGHER
1.1.2.5 Emma LORREN
b. 1875 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Al
1.1.2.6 O. Webster LORREN (listed in 1870 Cenus-Alabama)
1.1.2.7. Etta Bell LORREN
1.1.3 George Lauderdale LORREN
b. 4 Jul 1845 Esom Hill, Polk Co., Ga
d. 10 Jul 1916 Esom Hill, Polk Co., Ga
buried: Cherry Grove Cemetery, Palestine, Ala
m (1) Nancy Mariny WRIGHT bef. 1879
b. 1856
d. 1897 Cleburne Co., Al
m. (2) Martha Aveline FORRISTER on 3 Jan 1899, Polk Co., Ga
b. Dec. 1870 Cherokee Co., NC
d. 15 Dec 1942 Haralson, Ga.
Notes: 1. George and Nancy lived next door to John and Julia
(Pollard) Lorren
at the time of the 1880 Polk Co., Ala Census; Census takers added an
"s" to Lorren surname; George lived next to Thomas Lorren when the
1900 Polk Co., Ala Census was taken; 2. Martha Aveline Forrister
was
married to an unknown "Jones" prior to her marriage to George.
Children
1.1.3.1 Ella E. LORREN
b. 1 Jan 1879
d. aft. 1951 Calhoun Co., Al
m. Elijah WHEELER
1.1.3.2 William Jefferson "Bud" LORREN
b. 19 Apr 1882 Oak Level, Cleburne Co., Ala
d. 7 Mar 1952 Arteriosclerotic heart disease (note
1)
buried: Shiloah Baptist Church Cemetery
m. (1) Betty (Bettie) FORRESTER on 13 Dec 1901 Polk Co., Ga
b. 8 Jul 1884 Cleburne Co., Al
d. 8 Dec 1965
Notes: Betty (Bettie) was the dau of John Coleman Forrester and
Martha
"Louisa" HART of Esom Hill, Ga; William appears on 1910 Polk
County, Ga. Census
Children:
1.1.3.2.1 Lou "Lula" LORREN
b. 7 Mar 1903
1.1.3.2.2 James Milton "Milt" LORREN
b. 30 May 1905
m. Willie COX (dau of Mark Robert COX) 9 Oct 1927
b. 16 Oct 1905 Fanning Co., Ga
Note: In the Polk County Georgia Death
Records for
1951-1965, Georgia Court of Ordinary, Index to
Death Certificates, Book B, a Mrs. James Milton
Lorren(s) is listed as dying on 7 Nov 1958 of
multiple skull fractures. I don't know if this is
Willie.
Children:
1.1.3.2.2.1 James LORREN
1.1.3.2.2.2 Roy LORREN
1.1.3.2.2.3 John LORREN
1.1.3.2.2.4 Mrs. Clifton Lorren WESTER
1.1.3.2.3 Ethel Mae "Totsy" LORREN
b. 18 May 1908 Esom Hill, Ga
d. 2 Jun 1982 Monahans, Tx
m. (1) Carl COX 3 Jul 1925
b. 1907
d. 1973 Corsicanna, Tx
m. (2) Lyle SANDERS
Children:
1.1.3.2.3.1 Don COX
1.1.3.2.3.2 Larry COX
1.1.3.2.3.3 Richard COX
1.1.3.2.3.4 Linda COX
m. ? BRIDGES
1.1.3.2.3.5 Terry COX (female)
m. ? GRANT
1.1.3.2.3.6 Jamie COX (female)
m. ? GIBBS
1.1.3.2.4 Ruth Gertrude LORREN
b. aft 1900 - date withheld
1.1.3.2.5 Marvin LORREN
b. 12 Sept 1913
d. 3 Dec 1989
m. Audie Halsey SMITH
1.1.3.2.6 Nettie Bell LORREN
b. 29 Jul 1917
d. 13 Nov 1987
m. Clifford Paul COX
Children:
1.1.3.2.6.1 Evelyn COX
m. ? BROWN
1.1.3.2.7 Nellie Lucile LORREN
b. aft 1900 date withheld
m. ? MORGAN
1.1.3.2.8 Ruby LORREN
b. aft 1900 date withheld
m. ? PACKER 21 Mar 1942
1.1.3.2.9 Josephine "JO" LORREN
b. aft 1900 date withheld