[Interview with Mr. James Lloyd, Hubbard, TX, 27 May 2001] [by Mark A. Murphy, murphy@tarleton.edu] I happened upon Mr. James Lloyd, 83 year old resident of Hubbard, TX, when I stopped at a convenience store to ask for directions to Liberty Hill Cemetery. At first he was a bit leary of me as a stranger until I told him I was researching the Murphey family in the area. He asked my interest in the Murpheys, and I told him I was a descendent of Joseph Hill Murphey, as was my father in the car with me. He immediately brightened with enthusiasm as he began giving me information faster than I could keep up. Mr. Lloyd is the grandson of Ada Murphey, daughter of Joseph Hill Murphey, and wife of Waymond Long. Joseph was one of the original "Murphey boys" who came from Maury County TN after the Civil War. These Murpheys helped found the towns of Hubbard and Dawson. Ada was born in TN and came with the families by covered wagon. (Joseph Albert, her brother and my grandfather, and William Wesley, were also born by this time and came with them). I asked Mr. Lloyd why they came by wagon when the railroad was in Texas by that time. He said that the railroad didn't come to this area until 1880 or so (this confirmed later by historical marker in Dawson- see files). Also, they were probably too poor to bring all their belongings by railroad. He said the Murphys have always been poor, except for one son of Ralus (Geralus) who became a millionaire. Ralus owned a gas station in Hubbard and couldn't read, write or do math. He had a "calculator", a long piece of cardboard that had all the gas prices for each gallon listed, i.e. 11 cents for one gallon, 22 cents for two gallons, etc. Mr. Lloyd said Ralus was a fair and honest businessman that everyone liked. The only Murphy still in the area that he knew of was the wife of one of Ralus' sons who was in her eighties. Mr. Lloyd described the massacre at Battle Creek (one mile east of Liberty Hill cemetery) that was told to him by the old folks. One man survived the indian attack and crawled all the way to Tawakani, another small local community. This was in the 1830's or so (see Battle Creek historical marker notes). Also: Confederate veterans held reunions up until the 1930's or so at the Confederate Reunion Grounds near Mexia. The Murpheys were a part of these events. Also: One of the Hills went to the Spur area to survey land to see if it was suitable for families (date unknown). Also a Mr. Post surveyed the area around what is now Post, TX, named after him. Mr. Lloyd said Mr. Post was trying to build a factory that could turn maize into breakfast cereal. "You ever heard of Post Toasties?", said Mr. Lloyd, "Well they was named after him, too." (this also is found to be true- see http://www.posttexas.com/C.W.Post%20history.htm for more on Mr. Post, his inventions, his physician Dr. Kellogg-brother to the cereal king W.K. Kellogg and Battle Creek, Michigan. Is it coincidence that another Battle Creek was in Texas between Hubbard & Dawson in 1830's? Battle Creek, Michigan was first settled in 1830s and named after an indian battle also.) (my tape player broke as I'm transcribing, will continue later- MM)