Nathaniel Brindle family of Wigan, Lancashire, England
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Nathaniel Brindle Family of Wigan, Lancashire, England
Alice Brindle, daughter of
      Nathaniel BrindleAlice Brindle Ward b. 3 Oct. 1792, daughter of Nathaniel Brindle.
My grandmother (Jackie Leatham's) was Margaret Alice Jones, Grave of Nathaniel
              Brindlewhose mother was Mary Alice Melling, whose mother was Margaret Ward, whose mother was Alice Brindle,
who was a daughter of Nathaniel Brindle who died 7 September 1814


The following  received from Freda Chorlton in regards to Nathaniel Brindle family history.
Freda is descended from James Brindle, son of Nathaniel Brindle, who married Ann Rimmer.

Freda can be contacted at  [email protected]

Please contact me if you would like to add to this family history page.
Also available:     History of Park Lane Chapel, by Rev.  G. Fox,  First published: 1897

  The TREASURE of PARK LANE

by Freda Chorlton

Picture of Brindle Men of Park Lane Presbyterian Chapel, 1860's

 Picture of Park Lane Presbyterian Chapel
Picture of Freda
          ChorltonFreda Chorlton

When I first began doing my Family Tree as I thought of it in the beginning, I was delighted to find all the names and dates concerning my ancestors. I did exactly the same as everyone else, that is birth certificates, marriages, burials and of course followed them every decade on the censuses as they moved around the districts. I have been fortunate in the fact that all my forebears (with the exception of an Irish great-grandmother) lived between St. Helens on one side of town and Bolton on the other, each generation moving closer to Wigan until my parents met.
Along the way, as I was researching my late mothers family background, I found one or two surprises. To begin with I was always led to believe that they originated in the Woodhouse Lane / Beech Hill area, which I suppose was true as they obviously only knew as far back as their grand-parents.  However as I moved back through the generations I found that the Brindle family (my mothers maiden name) had moved into the afore mentioned area via Goose Green from Ashton-in -Makerfield  (or Ashton-in-the-Willows as it was called then).
When I was looking for the baptisms of the ancestors from there I was looking at the larger Churches first without much success, and then I looked on the film for “Park Lane Presbyterian Chapel” and there they were.  I don’t need to tell you the satisfaction I felt when I found several generations baptized and buried there.  But this is only the beginning of a more interesting story to me and my family , and one that I would like to share with you.

After studying the films for Park Lane I was told that the History Shop also had a small photo copied booklet “The Register of Park Lane (Unitarian) Chapel with baptisms from1786-1837 and burials from 1800-1837”.  So as it contained numerous entries concerning my family I had the complete booklet photo copied.
 In the introduction to the register is a passage which reads “further information on the Park Lane Chapel is contained in Nightingale’s Lancashire Nonconformity and in greater detail in George Fox’s History of Park Lane Chapel of 1897”.  The History Shop had both of these books so I browsed through them.  The latter of these two books was an actual treasure because it not only told about the chapel but about the congregation as well.  The book was over 250 pages so I couldn’t just deposit myself in the History Shop until I had read it, besides which I WANTED it.

I had no idea where the chapel was or had been, but I was soon put right by our friends in the library, it is still there, still in use and this year is its tri-centenery.  For anyone else who doesn’t know where it is--- it is on the A49 from Wigan to Ashton a little way past the M6 junction at Bryn.  I passed it every day for years on my way to Ashton Grammar School and never noticed it.
I decided to take a look at the chapel but unfortunately the gates were locked,  I looked over the wall and there were the tombstones of several members of the Brindle families along side families they had married into.  I contacted the Chapel secretary and asked if it was possible to look around the church yard and she kindly unlocked the gates for me.  There then followed  a discussion about the book (History of Park Lane) and she informed me that she had a copy belonging to the chapel which I begged to borrow for a few days.  My first surprise on opening the book was that someone had written in child-like writing M.Brindle, so the book had obviously belonged to a long gone member of my family. I photo-copied the complete book, all 250+ pages.

When I read this book my names suddenly became real people who had lived and breathed and no doubt struggled in those hard times.  The interesting little tales told about the congregation including ones like the following that refers to my great-great-great-great grandfather:----“In 1750 a singing club was established at the chapel to meet once every week at ye said chapel, namely, every Thursday at half an hour past seven of ye clock in the evening............... and gives a list of rules and regulations, then continues.................
Some years later the choir master was Nathaniel Brindle, who was also the sexton. In his days, it is said, one of the female singers was unable even to read.  It thus became Nathaniel’s duty  to teach her the words of the hymn before she could practice the tunes.  Fortunately, the young woman had a good memory; so that the labour was not very difficult.  The double task was assuredly a somewhat unusual one for a choir-master”.
 
In 1785/86 the Reverend John Brownlow retired, and  the congregation including Nathaniel signed a letter asking the Reverend Hezekiah Kirkpatrick to take over the duties of  Park Lane chapel.  After Mr Kirkpatrick came Rev. Thomas Broadbent,  and later in 1812 Rev Thomas Smith took over the flock.  In his first year there, a Sunday school was established and in a description of the running of, and the cost of this venture is a passage which says “The chief expense seems to have been the stipend of Peter Blinson and that of his assistant, James Brindle, who received threepence per Sunday for his labours”.
A section written concerning the period around 1830 states “ During its history as a secular institution, the school has been directed by a number of devoted superintendents and teachers.  Among them may be mentioned Mr David Shaw, Mr Peter Blinston, Mr Henry Lowe, and others.  Some special mention is merited by two zealous men, Thomas Baker and Thomas Brindle who worked together in the most self-sacrificing manner for the good of the school.  The one was a joiner, who willingly made the simple articles of furniture needed in the school; the other was an excellent writer, and he prepared the heads for the copy books, besides in other ways utilizing his beautiful penmanship for the benefit of the scholars.  In those days of  small wages and small collections, the two frequently, out of their hard earned wages, purchased articles necessary for school purposes.  Sunday by Sunday,  with undeviating regularity, these good men attended the school, though in the week-days they had toiled long hours.  Baker working twelve hours a day at the factory, beside utilizing his spare time in the evenings as village coffin maker.
  Instead of the ordinary extra Sunday dinner at home, they contented themselves with a cake eaten in the school-room, so that they might be ready for their afternoon teaching duties.  In addition to his labours in the school, Thomas Brindle, as his father before him, was leader of the chapel choir.  In this capacity, he wrote an anthem, entitled “The Power of Truth”(( “It  is without accompaniment and crude; but it must have cost him many hours of trouble”)).  So writes a great-great nephew of his Mr Joseph Leyland, himself a professional singer and a pupil of the celebrated tenor Mr Sims Reeves.  
Some differences eventually arose between Mr Baker and Mr Brindle and the then minister of the chapel, the Rev Francis Knowles.  In consequence, they resigned their positions, both in school and chapel.  But this did not alter Mr Knowles’s esteem for them.”
 Later on in a letter of invitation to a minister, there are the names of members of the congregation who signed the letter, amongst them are James, John, Thomas  and Ann Brindle.

Another passage reads:----JOHN BRINDLE ---- A valuable side-light is thrown on the religious life of Park Lane congregation at this time, by an obituary notice which appeared in the “Christian Reformer” of December 1824.  A young man, named John Brindle, aged 29, the son of Nathaniel Brindle, has died.  He had been brought up in the Unitarian faith, and he had found it sufficient to influence his moral character for good, and to support him in the hour of sickness and death................... A simple gravestone preserves the name of John Brindle, upon which is engraved the following verse:-

Reader, beware! Bad courses shun,
Or quit them if they are begun;
Be not to any vice a slave;
There’s no repentance in the grave”.

In 1831 an institution was formed for the benefit of the congregation and the Sunday school, this was known as Park Lane Unitarian Sunday School Sick Society for which Thomas Brindle was the collector, and a committee member.  It is very interesting but it would take too long to cover this venture here.

One passage in the book which I find extremely touching is as follows, this concerns a brother of my great-great-great-grandfather James Brindle. written in 1897. “Between thirty and forty years ago, the congregation possessed a “chapel-cleaner” named Nathaniel Brindle.  He was grandson of the Nathaniel Brindle, who signed the requisition in favor of Mr Kirkpatrick’s invitation to Park Lane, and who was the leader of the chapel choir.  Nathaniel the younger was unique in his devotion to the chapel, no labour in connection with the chapel was too great for him.  He kept the building, with the adjacent school-rooms, scrupulously clean.  He spent many unnecessary hours in the place just for the love of it. On Sundays, in winter, the stove was the special object of his attention.  He had fashioned a piece of iron for the purpose of opening the stove-door.  He was accustomed to use this implement to close the door, which had however, only an imperfect fastening.  In the interval between the services, he would stand patiently keeping the door closed with the iron above mentioned, so that the proper degree of heat should be maintained.  He was the general factotum of the congregation, rendering it essential, if unobtrusive service, and this for the slenderest compensation, though himself  but poor.  A newly-settled minister being asked by him on Boxing-day for a gift to him as chapel-cleaner, elicited a fact which indicates a primitive method of operation in such affairs at the chapel.  The man was paid no regular salary; but he received donations from certain members of the congregation at Christmas time.  Formerly, his compensation amounted to as much as twenty-five or thirty shillings; but, owing to the death of the most liberal givers, that sum had been reduced to about a guinea!  Meager as was this uncertain stipend for the work so willingly done by him, the good man seemed pleased and thankful for what he received.  Nathaniel was subject to epileptic fits.  They were of frequent occurrence, and attacked him at all sorts of unseasonable times.  Through them he had often been placed in danger, and by them he lost his life.  He was found one day lying in a ditch in Sougher’s Lane, with his face downwards.  When he was lifted up he was quite dead,.  It was evident that, overtaken by one of his fits, he had fallen into the ditch, from which he had been unable to extricate himself, and so had perished. Thus passed away one of the most faithful, if humble, friends of Park Lane Chapel.”

On a lighter note, there is mention of the author George Fox taking over the flock in 1864, and a passage reads:-  “ After making the acquaintance of his little flock, Mr Fox began active operations in the church.  Fortunately, there was a body of teachers in the Sunday School, for the most part young, who quickly showed themselves sympathetic to the minister.  The greater number of them lived at a long distance from the chapel, some coming even from Wigan and Ince, a distance of  from three or four miles.  They were accustomed to bring their dinners, which they eat in the school-room in friendly intercourse with one another.  Two young women, sisters, named Mary and Ann Brindle, after their removal to Wigan, and even beyond, were for years so regular and punctual in their attendance, that the people of Worsley Mesnes were able to set their clocks by them as they passed.”

“At a teachers’ meeting, held at the Parsonage in the year 1865, a proposition was made by Mr James Brindle, one of the teachers, that new schools should be built.” The new building was erected in 1867.  As the Chapel became more prosperous  it became necessary to run things even more business-like, and monthly meetings were instituted, and a passage reads:-  The secretary was Mr James Brindle, whose family had been connected with the congregation for nearly a hundred years.  He had been a scholar and teacher in the Sunday School.  For some years, he gratuitously played the harmonium in the chapel.  He remained the secretary until his business engagements compelled his withdrawal.”

 So now I hope you will understand my wish to share my treasure with you, because these little passages about my ancestors seems like something too good to be true.
It just goes to show, you never know where you will find snippets of information about your family.  I have just one more article to relate, and that is in another publication in the History Shop and in the local library,  “The Unfortunate Colliery” by Ian Winstanley which is the story of High Brooks colliery, also at Park Lane there is also mention of the Brindle family, as follows,---- after the explosion on 1st April 1869  one of the victims, namely “Peter Gerard aged 12 years, a drawer of Pemberton.  He was an orphan and lived with his uncle. He was identified by Ellen Brindle, of Goose Green, wife of James Brindle, a hand loom weaver”.

The really sad fact about all this , is that I can’t tell my mother or any of her sisters or her brother , because I left it too late. But there are still my children and grand-children, etc. and hopefully many generations to come who will be interested in their FAMILY HISTORY as I now call it. I just feel so privileged to have had so much information left by others for me to find.

If only I could find as much about my fathers family ( the name being Monks, the family coming from Aspull). I shall continue to scour the pages of local publications, for who knows what is there waiting to be found.

Freda Chorlton

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