ColinElderOfSkye.htm
 
 
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Xerox sent by Ann M. MacKinnon, Curator,                          Sir George ELDER on Isle of Skye
Clan Donald Library & Museum of the Isles
Armadale, Sleat, Isle of Skye, Scotland                                    Sir George ELDER - born near Kilcoy Castle, north of Inverness
at
http://www.clandonald.com/index.php/page/library

From Book:
 Maccowan, Roderick.
 The men of Skye.
 Glasgow, 1902.

Page 201-203.
COLIN ELDER
"Colin Elder was a worthy man.  He occupied the farm of Knock, Sleat,
on a lease from Lord MacDonald, at the annual rent of upwards of L400.
His father came to Skye, and occupied the shop at Isle Ornsay, one of the
oldest commercial establishments in Skye.  In the connection, the word,
"Going to Isle Ornsay to buy tea,"  became a proverb in the district.
On the death of his father, Colin took the farm, and, owing to his social position,
he was of great service to the Church in his day.
"We made his hospitable mansion our resting-place," says Dr. Beith,
"and not a little enjoyed the intelligent converse of a man who,
although living a most retired life, was a thorough classical scholar,
and alumnus of Marischall College, Aberdeen, and well read in all modern literature.
One of his sons is the present minister of Woolwich, of the English Presbyterian Church."....
  In Sleat there were several God-fearing men.
We give the names of some of them--Donald MacClure, a godly catechist;
John MacIntosh, elder; Colonel Elder, of Knock, elder; Ewan MacDonald, Tarskavaig;
John MacKinnon, Ardavaser; John MacPherson, and Malcolm MacInnes...."

Note on Chart for John Elder, born about 1766. Married Margaret MacBean
Children: Jane, Elizabeth, Georgina, Colin, b. about 1798,
Alexander Macdonald Elder, Mary Mackinnon Elder,
John Benjamin Elder.
"This is mention in the "Inverness Journal" that indicates that Colin was most probably in Kyleakin in the 1820s.
We have found mention of him there in the 1830's.

Family chart for John ELDER (sent from Clan Donald Centre, Skye):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JohnElderSkye.htm

Family chart for Colin ELDER (sent from Clan Donald Centre, Skye):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/ColinElderSkye.htm

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From ambaile.org.uk
   THE LATE COLIN ELDER ESQ
"The obituary in our last recorded the death of Colin Elder, Esq, for many years farmer at Knock, Isle of Skye, and merchant at Isle Oronsay. He was a man of an eminently accomplished and inquiring mind, who, though far removed from the literary and scientific centres, kept up, in his intervals of business, an acquaintance with both science and literature and was a thoughtful and intelligent student of the aspects of the times. Travellers from the south who shared his hospitality were often surprised to find one resident in a tract of country so remote, so well qualified to introduce them to whatever was worthy of their attention in the district, from the antiquities of the old Scandinavian tower which formed the main feature of his place of residence, and from which it derived its name, to the mineralogical character of the insulated rock on which the tower stands, or from the fossils of the neighbouring deposit of the Lias, to that solitary fragment of the American Flora, the Eriocaulon septangulare, which occurs in its lakes, but which is to be found nowhere else in Britain or on the Continent of Europe. In his moral and religious character Mr Elder stood very high. He took his stand firmly, but unobtrusively, at an early period of the Church controversy, on the side of the ecclesiastical courts; and at the Disruption, and ever since, constituted the chief support and protection of the Free Church in the district. He it was who provided a home for the family of Mr Swanson of Small-Isles, when refused standing-room on the island of Eigg by the proprietor; and for year after year during the protracted period of site refusal, the Free Church congregation of Slate used to assemble and worship in one of his granaries. His death took place suddenly and unlooked for, at a period of life by no means advanced, and in the midst of his usefulness; but he was a good man, who had been effectually taught to make the best possible provision for the inevitable change; and so the call, though sudden did not find him unprepared. Witness. "

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Page 1179  [Edinburgh, December 26, 1851]  Edinburgh Gazette
http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/6137/pages/1179/page.pdf

A Petition having been presented to the Lord Ordinary officiating on the Bills, at the instance of ALEXANDER BLAIR, Esq., as Treasurer and for behoof of the Governor and Company of the Bank of Scotland, Creditors to the extent required by Law of COLIN ELDER, sometime Merchant, Isleornsay, in the County of Inverness, afterwards Tacksman of Knock, in the Island of Skye, in said County, now deceased, praying for sequestration of his estates, his Lordship upon the 11th day of November 1851 granted warrant to cite Mrs. Jane ELDER, residing at Knock aforesaid, Widow of the said deceased Colin Elder, John Elder, Apprentice on board the ship "Ronachan," at present furth of Scotland, eldest son of the said deceased Colin Elder, George Elder, residing in Inverness, and Margaret M'Bean Elder, Eliza Elder, Alexander Elder, Jane Elder, Mary Cecilia Elder, and Matilda Anne Elder, all residing at Knock aforesaid, the other children of the said deceased Colin Elder, the successors of the said deceased Colin Elder, and the Tutors and Curators of such of the said successors as are pupils or minors, if they any have, for their interest, to appear in Court within twenty-one days after citation to shew cause why sequestration of the estates of the said deceased Colin Elder should not be awarded, in terms of the Statute.  The said successors, and the Tutors and Curators of such of them as are pupils or minors, if they any have, for the interest, having been duly cited to appear accordingly, and no appearance having been made, the Lord Ordinary officiating on the Bills, upon the 26th day of December 1851, ordered intimation of the foresaid warrant to be published in the Edinburgh Gazette, and of new ordained the successors of the said deceased Colin Elder, and the Tutors and Curators of such of them as are pupils or minors, if they any have, for their interest, to appear within a farther space of twenty-one days from the date of publication of the said intimation, to shew cause why sequestration of the estates of the said deceased Colin Elder should not be awarded, in terms of the Statute.
  DAVIDSON & SYME, W.S.
22, Castle Street, Edinburgh, Agents.
Edinburgh, December 26, 1851

Page 218  Edinburgh Gazette
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/21284/pages/218/page.pdf

The estates of Colin Elder, sometime Merchant, Isleornsay, the the county of Inverness, afterwards Tackman, of Knock, in the Island of Skye, in said county, now deceased, were sequestrated on the 20th day of January 1852.
  The first deliverance is dated 11th November 1851.
   The meeting to elect Interim Factor is to be held at one o'clock afternoon, on Friday the 30th day of January current, within the Caledonian Hotel, in Inverness; and the meeting to elect the Trustee and Commissioners is to be held at one o'clock afternoon, on Friday the 20th day of February next, within the said Caledonian Hotel, in Inverness.
  A composition may be offered at this latter meeting; and to entitle creditors to the first dividend, their oaths and grounds of debt must be lodged on or before the 20th day of July 1852. 
  All future advertisements relating to this sequestration will be published in the Edinburgh Gazette alone.
   DAVIDSON and SYME, W.S.
  22, Castle-street, Edinburgh, Agents.

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Families in British India Society Database
Entry from Transcription of Burial Registers 1851 - 1859
http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_detail.php?id=236944

Burial Presidency  Madras     Burial Year  1855   
 First Names  Alexander     Surname  Elder 
   Prefix  N/2     Volume Number  35     Folio  67     LDS Film Reference  498596     IOR Reference  Z/N/2     Source Year  1855 

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See Kyleakin Bed and Breakfast:
"Head for the Skye Bridge. Take the Kyleakin exit off the roundabout at the Skye end of the bridge.
Drive into Kyleakin and turn right by the Youth Hostel. We are a short distance along after that."
http://www.isleofskye.net/ceol-na-mara

Colin ELDER:
http://www.dswa.org.uk/professionals/regions/scotland.htm
Medium level Craftsmen
ELDER, COLIN
 TEL: 01470 511752
 16 Lower Milovaig,
 Glendale,
 Isle of Skye,
  IV55 8WR
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Cottage at Glendale:
http://www.scottish-holiday-cottages.co.uk/skye/mandallagh.html

 STEWART families  from Isle of Skye,
went to Prince Edward Island:
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~peistewart/Angus_Norman_Stewart.html
1. ANGUS NORMAN2 STEWART (NORMAN1) was born June 1802
in Sconser, Portree Parish, Isle of Skye,Scotland,
and died August 5, 1878 in PEI, buried in Little Sands Cemetery, PEI.
He married CATHERINE MACKINNON February 13, 1835 in Portree Parish, Isle of Skye.
Daughter of Alexander MacKinnon and his wife
Marion (SARAH) MacIntosh of Coillemore, Isle of Skye, Scotland.
Catherine MacKinnon was born May 12, 1812 in Coillemore, Isle of Skye,
and died February 11, 1898 in PEI, buried in Little Sands Cemetery, PEI.

COLIN ELDER lives currently at Glendale - outer west coast of Skye:
Sconser to Glendale:
Directions: mapquest map:
http://tinyurl.com/y46yj5
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1841 Census - Isle of Skye
Name:   John Elder
Age:  75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1766
Gender:  Male
Where born:  Scotland
Civil Parish:  Sleat
County:  Inverness
Address:  Knock
Occupation:  Farmer
Parish Number:  115
Household Members:
Name  Age
John Elder             75
Jane Elder             40
Elizabeth Elder    40
Georgina Elder     35
Cath McDond       60
Margt Robertson  30
Jean Murchison    30
Margt Murchison  25
Flora McKay          20
Bell MacKac           25
Marion McLeod     15
Alexr Barnet           25
Alexr Johnstone    20
Angusni Innes        20
Angus Robertson  15
Allan Martin          13
George Gowor Bruce 45
Mary Bruce                30
Christian Bruce           4
Margt M Bain Bruce    2
Margt Young               20
Source Citation: Parish: Sleat; ED: 3; Page:  2; Line: 1055;
Roll: CSSCT1841_18-0031; Year: 1841.
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Google Books online
"Black's Picturesque Tourist of Scotland"
 By Adam and Charles Black (Firm),  Edinburgh, A. & C. Black, 1851.
Held at:
New York Public Library - Research
Digital copy:
http://books.google.com.ar/books?id=O2UPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA293&dq=SKYE+++%22JOHN+ELDER+%22&lr=lang_en&hl=en#PPA293,M1

Page 293:
..."At Isle Oronsay there is a small steam-boat inn, and a commercial establishment has been
founded there by the judicious enterprise of the late Mr. John Elder.
The place derives its rame from a small island, which lies so close upon the Skye coast as to form a convenient natural harbour."

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1841 Census (Ancestry.com)
Name:   Collin Elder
Age:  45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender:  Male
Where born:  Inverness-shire, Scotland  (Isle of Skye)
Civil Parish:  Sleat
County:  Inverness
Address:  Isleornsay
Occupation:  Merchant
Parish Number:  115
Household Members:
Name  Age
Collin Elder  45
Agnus Elder  35
Margret Elder  13
Eliza Elder  11
John Elder  10
Alexander Elder 7
Jean Elder  6
George Elder  1
Charlotte MacKie  21
William MacDonald  24 Student
Peter Cameron  28 Clerk
John McKenzie  17 Clerk
Mary MacRae            45  Cook
Cathrine Mdonald  21  Servant
Isabella MacRae  21  Servant
Isabella Silver    17  Dairymaid
Isabella McDonald  22  Servant
Margret McIntyre  40  Independent
Margt Matheson  17  Laundrymaid
Rachel McKinnon  22
William Luke           37
Cathrine McInnes  58
Source Citation: Parish: Sleat; ED: 2; Page:  7;
Line: 350; Roll: CSSCT1841_18-0020; Year: 1841.
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1861  (Ancestry.com)
Name:   George Elder
Age:  20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship:  Lodger
Gender:  Male
Where born:  Skye, Isle of
Registration Number:  685/5
Registration district:  Newington
Civil parish:  Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County:  Midlothian
Address:  26 Gilmore Place
Occupation:  Student
ED:  92
Household schedule number:  63
Line:  12
Roll:  CSSCT1861_129

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1881  Census UK (Ancestry.com)
Name:   George M.A. Elder
Age:  40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation:  Head
Spouse's Name: Emma A.
Gender:  Male
Where born:  Scotland
Civil Parish:  Greenwich
County/Island:  London
Country:  England
Street address:  4 The Grove
Condition as to marriage:  Married
Occupation:  Clergy Of Presbyterian Church Of England
Registration district:  Greenwich
Sub registration district:  Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel:  18
Household Members:
Name  Age
George M.A. Elder  40
Emma A. Elder       36
George H. Elder        5
Arthur S. Elder        2
William A. Elder
Lydia Margan         29
Lucy M. Brill          27
Alice M. Calderwood  26
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 721;
Folio: 112; Page: 19; Line:  ; GSU roll: 1341168.
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1891 Census -England (Ancestry.com)
Name:   George Elder
Age:  50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation:  Head
Spouse's Name: Emma A
Gender:  Male
Where born:  Scotland
Civil Parish:  Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alphage
Town:  Greenwich
County/Island:  London
Country:  England
Registration district:  Greenwich
Sub registration district:  Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel:  19
Household Members:
Name  Age
George Elder     50  Clergyman-Presbyterian Church
Emma A Elder           45  (b. abt 1846  India)
George H Elder  15  (b. abt 1876 Greenwich, London, Eng)
Arthur S W Elder  12  (b. abt 1879      "
William A Elder  10  (b. abt  1881)   "
Edith G Elder        7     (b. abt   1884)  "
Alexander H Elder  6     (b. abt 1885)   "
Lucy M Brill  37  Cook
Jane Murray  25
Lydia Tarrant  39
Emmy M Wity  17
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 510;
Folio 117; Page 30; GSU roll: 6095620.
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1901
Name:   George Elder
Age:  60
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1841
Relation:  Head
Spouse's Name:  Emma A
Gender:  Male
Where born:  Isle of Skye, Scotland
Civil Parish:  Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish:  St Alphage
County/Island:  London
Country:  England
Registration district:  Greenwich
Sub registration district:  Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel:  8
Household schedule number:  202
Household Members:
Name  Age
George Elder  60
Emma A Elder  56
George H Elder  25 (b. abt 1876 Greenwich, Kent, England)
Cathrine S Elder  22 (b. abt 1879 Greenwich, Kent, England)
William A Elder  20 (b abt 1881 Greenwich, Kent, England)
Edith G Elder     19 (b abt 1882 Greenwich, Kent, England)
Alexander H Elder  16 (b. abt 1885 Dover, Kent, England)
Helenor Wood   29 servant
Eliza A Stevenson  21 servant
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 537; Folio: 55; Page: 32.
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UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 (Ancestry.com)
Name:   Arthur Sidney Elder  (Engineer.  With Grace Mildred Elder)
Birth Date:  abt 1878
Age:  51
Port of Departure:  Buenos Aires, Argentina
Arrival Date:  13 Jul 1929
Port of Arrival:  Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage:  Santos, Rio de Janeiro, Montevideo, Lisbon, Vigo
Ship Name:  Alcantara
Search Ship Database:  View the 'Alcantara' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line:  The Royal Mail Steam Packet Company
Official Number:  148151
Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 914; Item: 30
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 (Ancestry.com)
Name:   Arthur Sidney Welsh Elder  (with Grace Mildred Elder, age 50)
Arrival Date:  25 Jun 1937
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Age:  59
Gender:  Male
Port of Departure:  Buenos Aires, Argentina
Place of Origin:  Argentine
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality:  Argentinian;English (English)
Ship Name:  Northern Prince
Search Ship Database:  Search the Northern Prince in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival:  New York, New York
Nativity:  England
Line:  5
Microfilm Serial:  T715
Microfilm Roll:  T715_5998
Birth Location:  England
Birth Location Other: London
Page Number:  169
Port Arrival State:  New York
Port Arrival Country:  United States
Source Citation: Year: 1937; Arrival: New York , United States;
Microfilm serial: T715; Microfilm roll: T715_5998; Line: 5; .
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ONLINE BOOK:
"Presbyterians and the Irish Language"
 By Roger Blaney, Ulster Historical Foundation, Ultach Trust 1996
held at
Baylor University Libraries, TX
University of Notre Dame Libraries, IN
and other US libraries

Google Books, Page 94
http://tinyurl.com/bhwwv9

Patrick MacMenamy (d. 1860) [m. dau of John ELDER, Portknock, Skye]
  "Patrick MacMenamy was born in Magherafelt and grew up as a native
Irish-speaker.  Educated at the Old College, Belfast he received the
General Certificate in 1844.  He became a convert from Roman
Catholicism and was licensed at Belfast, 6 December 1844.  He was
ordained by the Presbytery of the Route and Ballymena, acting jointly,
on 15 April 1845 to act as a missionary to the Glens of Antrim, under
the Home Mission.  Based in Ballycastle, he was on the roll of the
Route Presbytery.  There is little information on his work.  He resigned
because of ill-health in 1846.  In 1845 he married a daughter of
John ELDER, Portknock, Skye.  He died in New York in July 1860."
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Maine DNA group of ELDER also could be near BALLYCASTLE, Co Antrim.
see
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Maine.htm

"Samuel ELDER b: BEF 1710 in Artemore, Co. Of Antrim, N.I."
Geography:
Coleraine to Ballycastle (Ardaghmore)
mapquest map
at
http://tinyurl.com/yvq3gf

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See also:
 Book: BRAVE MEN OF SKYE

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