Also looking for a Daniel Elder and wife Mary Reed,
(may
be in Kinross census)
parents of Nathaniel Elder,
as listed by Paul Ihms on WorldConnect
at
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:742914&id=I34305977
and Ballymoney notes
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/BallymoneyData.htm
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Same family? (From Ancestry.com)
1927
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Nathaniel Elder (by himself)
Birth Date: abt 1875 (Address: Rasharkin, Co Antrim, Plumber,
age 52)
Age: 52
Port of Departure: New York, New York
Arrival Date: 28 Nov 1927
Port of Arrival: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Cameronia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Cameronia' in the 'Passenger
Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 144242
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1900 Census New York
Name: Nathaniel Elder
Home in 1900: Yonkers Ward 4, Westchester, New York
Age: 27
Birth Date: Oct 1872
Birthplace: Ireland
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1892
Relationship to head-of-house: Brother-in-law
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Residence : Yonkers City, Westchester, New York
Household Members:
Name Age
John McMillan
29
Sarah McMillan
32
Wm McMillan
6
Nathaniel Elder
27 Brother-in-law (laborer) - Immig. 1892 - Married
Jos Elder
19 Brother-in-law (laborer)- Immig 1900 - Married
Henrieta Elder
20 Sister-in-law -Immig 1899 - Married
Thos Elder
11/12 Nephew (b. 1900)
Wm Snyder
21 Boarder
Source Citation: Year: 1900;
Census Place: Yonkers Ward 4, Westchester, New York;
Roll: T623_1178 Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 132.
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1841 census Scotland (Ancestry.com)
Name: David Elder
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Barony Anderston
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Anderston Quay
Occupation: Engineer Ap
Parish Number: 622
Household Members:
Name Age
David Elder
55 (b. 1785, Scotland - Engineer) [b. Orwell, Kinross-shire]
Grace Elder
45 (b. 1796, Scotland
David Elder 19
(b. 1822, Lanarkshire, Scotland- Engineer Ap
John Elder
15 (b. 1826, Lanarkshire, Scotland - Engineer Ap
Alexander Elder 8 (b. 1833, Lanarkshire,
Scotland)
Janet Baxter 20
(b. Lanarkshire, Scotland) - Servant,
Source Citation: Parish: Barony Anderston; ED: 32; Page: 8;
Line: 1449; Roll: CSSCT1841_98-0024; Year: 1841.
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1851 census Scotland (Ancestry.com)
Name: David Elder Junr.
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Grace
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Parish Number: 644/2
Civil Parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 19
Occupation: Engineer Mechanical (em 60 Men)
ED: 31
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_166
Household Members:
Name Age
David Elder
66 (Orwell, Kinross, 1785 - Superintendent Of Engineers
Grace Elder
59 (Paisley, Renfrew, 1792)
David Elder Junr. 29 ( Glasgow, Lanark -
Engineer Mechanical (em 60 Men)
John Elder
27 (Engineer Mechanical (em 60 Men)
Alexander Elder 18 (Engineer
Mechanicals Apprentice)
Cathrine Dingwall 25 (servant as cook - Killmettie,
Inverness )
Mary McGregor 18 (Servant
- Balfron, Stirling)
Source Citation: Parish: Govan; ED: 31; Page: 13; Line: 16;
Roll: 924; Year: 1851.
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1861
Name: David Elder Jr.
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Grace
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 19 Paterson St
Occupation: Engineer
ED: 71
Household schedule number: 11
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1861_111
Household Members:
Name Age
David Elder
76 (Orwell, Kinrosshire - Engineer, Retired
Grace Elder
69 (Paisley, Renfrewshire, 1792)
David Elder Jr.
38 (Glasgow, Lanarkshire - - Engineer)
Catherine Dingwall 29 (Servant - Kelmaldge, Inenuss)
[Inverness]
Ann P Wilson
22 (Servant - Glasgow, Lanarkshire)
Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Govan; ED: 71; Page: 2; Line:
24;
Roll: CSSCT1861_111; Year: 1861.
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1871
Name: David Elder (died 1872 age of 51)
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Catherine
Mother's Name: Grace
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 374
Registration district: Logie
Civil Parish: Logie
County: Perthshire
Address: Charlton Rd Miltomine Vella [Villa]
Occupation: Civil Engineer
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 39
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1871_65
Household Members:
Name Age
David Elder
49 (Glasgow, Lanarkshire - Civil Engineer)
Catherine Elder
38 (England 1833)
Grace Elder
78 (Therley, Renfrewshire 1793) - must be Paisley, Renfrewshire
Francis Anne Brenston 46 (visitor, Therley, Renfrewshire,
1825) [Paisley]
Charles N Mastin
16 (visitor, scholar, Applecrgs, England, 1855) [or Martin]
Isabella Campbell
25 (servant, Applecrgs, Rossshire)
Margaret McLaren
28 (servant, Kilmadock, Perthshire)
Margaret McLean
19 (servant, Glasgow, Lanarkshire)
Source Citation: Parish: Logie; ED: 1; Page: 9; Line: 10;
Roll: CSSCT1871_65; Year: 1871.
Find LDS microflm at Family History Center for handwritten entry.
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Search towns in GENUKI webpages for PERTHSHIRE and LOGIE
at
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/PER/Logie/index.html
found:
"LOGIE, parish in Stirlingshire, Clackmannanshire,
and Perthshire.
It adjoins Stirling town, and contains Causewayhead, Menstrie, and
Blairlogie villages.,
part of Bridge of Allan town, and a small part of Stirling burgh.
Its length is 6 1/2 miles; its greatest breadth about 6 miles; its
area 3026 acres in Stirlingshire,
3632 acres in Clackmannanshire, and 5156 acres in Perthshire.
Real property in 1880-81, £23,761, £9294, and £3712.
Pop. 2985, and 1438, and 273.
The river Allan traces the western boundary;
the river Devon traces the eastern boundary;
and the river Forth, from mouth of the former to mouth of the latter,
traces all the southern boundary.
The land in the north and north-east is part of the Ochil Hills;
thence,
to about the middle, is brae or hanging plain; and thence to the
rivers, is rich carse.
One of the Ochil hills is the famous Dunmyat;
and another of its prominent features is Abbey-Craig.
Silver and copper ores are among its Ochils; and the mineral wells
of Airthrie are near Bridge of Allan.
A chief residence is Lord Abercromby's seat of Airthrie Cartle,
and a chief antiquity is Cambuskenneth Abbey.
The parochial church stands on a rural spot near Blairlogie.
Established, Free, United Presbyterian, and Episcopal churches are
at Bridge of Allan,
and a United Presbyterian church is at Blairlogie.
Six schools for 976 scholars are in the parish, and 3 of them for
570 are new."
--Wilson, Rev. John, The Gazetteer of Scotland,
1882.
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Search: CHARLTON ROAD and town "Bridge of Allan"
found: 33 Charlton Road, Bridge of Allan (19th
century urban villa photo)
at
http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-112-183-C
Resource Rights Holder: Crown Copyright:
Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland
"Grand Villa, one of many on the steep, woody slopes of Bridge
of Allan."
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D&B Business Overview
Address: Rokeby 33 Chalton Road
Stirling, STIRLINGSHIRE SCOTLAND FK9 4
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Search for town: "BRIDGE OF ALLAN" - Wikipedia description
at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_of_Allan
..."The early village consisted of seven small clachans; Bridge
End, Kierfield, Old Lecropt, Pathfoot,
Logie, Corntown and the Milne of
Airthrey
..."In the woods above the bridge a mine opened.
This was worked from around 1550, and quantities of copper, silver
and gold were extracted.
....."Major Alexander Henderson, the Laird of Westerton, drew up
plans
of how he wanted the village to be laid out in 1850.
The plan envisaged spacious streets with pleasure grounds in the
woods.
He also erected a fountain in Market Street.
It was at this time that many handsome stone villas were built on
wide thoroughfares,
with practically every second house becoming a lodging house as
Bridge of Allan became a renowned spa town.
Among the visitors was Robert Louis Stevenson, who visited annually
during his youth.
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"Bridge of ALLAN" - (Spa town) - more descriptions
http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/bridgeofallan/bridgeofallan/index.html
MAP OF CHALTON ROAD or CHARLTON COURT (must be both spellings)
website for Elaine Richards - From German & French translators
12, Charlton Court, Bridge Of Allan, Stirling, Stirlingshire FK9
4EG
Tel: 01786 832199
map on her webpage showing "CHALTON ROAD"
with LOGIE LANE nearby on Southeast side
see map:
http://tinyurl.com/dh7tfp
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Stirling Area map - shows Logie Kirk (and road from Kinross)
at
http://www.explore-stirling.com/images/2008/Stirling-Map-back-page.jpg
Walks around Logie Churchyard (Stirling and "Bridge of Allan")
- closeup map
at
http://www.instirling.com/walks/logmap.htm
"Map - "Bridge of Allan" Golf Course and Mine Wood. A walk near Stirling"
..."Take the short path which goes up to
the left and you will see the entrance to the mine.
"This long, disused coppermine was worked intermittently since the
16th Century and at one time,
copper from the mine was used in the mint at Stirling Castle."
at
http://www.instirling.com/walks/minemap.htm
Search towns in Ross and Cromarty - Applecross
at
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ROC
found: town of Applecross #58
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