WorldConnect                                            See also notes for BANFF, SCOTLAND
by Vickie Beard Thompson
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I4543
# ID: I4543
# Name: James Morrow ELDER
# Surname: Elder
# Given Name: James Morrow
# Sex: M
# Birth: 14 Apr 1816 in , Livingston, Kentucky, USA
# Death: 26 Sep 1858 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
# Note:
    CENSUS RECORDS: James M. Elder was 34 in 1850, apparently widowed,
                                            living with his widowed mother.

    VITAL RECORDS: Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900

# Change Date: 3 Mar 2009 at 12:21:50

Father: David ELDER b: ABT 1784 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
Mother: Eleanor Catherine DICKEY b: 13 Nov 1793 in , York, South Carolina, USA

Marriage 1 Louisa Jane BROWN b: 1819
    * Married: 18 May 1841 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA  [James is 25, Louisa Jane is 22]

Marriage 2 Nancy Jane KINSAL
    * Married: 19 Mar 1846 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA

Marriage 3 Martha D. BRUCE b: ABT 1823 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
    * Married: 1 Jan 1854 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
Children
   1.  David Delaney ELDER b: 19 May 1855 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
   2.  Martha A. ELDER b: ABT 1858 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
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WorldConnect
by Vickie Beard Thompson
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I4542
# ID: I4542
# Name: David Dickey ELDER
# Surname: Elder
# Given Name: David Dickey
# Sex: M
# Birth: 17 Oct 1813 in , Livingston, Kentucky, USA
# Death: 11 Sep 1838 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA
# Burial: Crawford Cem, North Fork Twp, Gallatin, Illinois, USA
# Change Date: 3 Mar 2009 at 13:05:17

Father: David ELDER b: ABT 1784 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
Mother: Eleanor Catherine DICKEY b: 13 Nov 1793 in , York, South Carolina, USA

Marriage 1 Susannah TROUSDALE
    * Married: 25 Jan 1838 in , Gallatin, Illinois, USA

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..... and More about BANFF-SHIRE Scotland:

WorldConnect by Vickie Beard Thompson
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I158
ID: I158
Name: George ELDER
Given Name: George
Surname: Elder
Sex: M
Birth: 25 May 1729 in Banff, Highland, Scotland  [LDS - Banff Christenings]
Death: Abt 1786 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
Note:
  >NOTES: I have run across a number of people who say George was from Scotland and not Ireland. He could have been living in Northern Ireland at the time of his immigration to America and that could be how Ireland came to be his birth place in a lot of records. I still need more work to verify this information.
 >HISTORY: George had two sons who died as P.O.W's of the British during the Revolutionary War. Both died of malnutrition. Seven of his sons came to Kentucky through the Cumberland Gap in 1795.
  >One died on the way, and was buried on the side of the road. One son, Thomas, stayed in Spartanburg County, South Carolina. This info came from family records and Bible of John C. Elder. Now in possession of Valanie Elder Clayton of Salem, Livingston, Kentucky. -1978- He may have also fought and died during the Revolutionary War.
  > Did they live in York County, Pennsylvania before coming to South Carolina??

Father: Alexander ELDER b: 13 Aug 1704 in Banff, Highland, Scotland
Mother: Margaret ALLERDYCE c: 8 Apr 1703 in Fordyce, Banff, Highland, Scotland

 Marriage 1 Elizabeth MAYES b: Abt 1731 in , Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
    •    Married: Abt 1747 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
Children
    1.     William ELDER b: Abt 1748 in , Spartanburg, SC
    2.     David ELDER b: Abt 1750 in , Spartanburg, SC
    3.     Thomas ELDER b: Abt 1752 in , Spartanburg, SC
    4.     John ELDER b: 1754 in , Spartanburg, SC
    5.     James ELDER b: Abt 1756 in , Spartanburg, SC
    6.     Samuel ELDER b: Abt 1758 in , Spartanburg, SC
    7.     Robert ELDER b: Abt 1760 in , Spartanburg, SC
    8.     Suzannah ELDER b: Abt 1762 in , Spartanburg, SC
    9.     Alexander ELDER b: Abt 1764 in , Spartanburg, SC
    10.    Andrew ELDER b: Abt 1766 in , Spartanburg, SC

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Vickie Beard Thompson lists some "PETER ELDER" names:
at
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I1805
ID: I1805
Name: John ELDER
Given Name: John
Surname: Elder
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1735 in Banff, Highland, Scotland
Death: Abt Jan 1781 in Cowpens, , North Carolina, USA
     MILITARY RECORDS: He was killed during the Battle of the Cowpens near
      Kings Mountain during the Revolutionary War.
Father: Alexander ELDER b: 13 Aug 1704 in Banff, Highland, Scotland
Mother: Margaret ALLERDYCE c: 8 Apr 1703 in Fordyce, Banff, Highland, Scotland
Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
    •    Married:
    •    Change Date: 21 Mar 2011
Children
    1.     Peter ELDER b: Abt 1756 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
    2.     Ephraim ELDER b: Abt 1758 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
    3.     Hamon ELDER b: Abt 1760 in , Spartanburg, South Carolina, USA
***

On Judy Pintar's Ancestry Tree -
 More notes  RE: PATRICK ELDER, b. 1646  Dundee, Angus, Scotland
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18642159/person/689984959

See: ELDER families around Dundee, Angus, Scotland, posted by David POWELL
 at
http://www.roots-boots.net/ft/t-elder.txt

Search PATRICK -- also search MONCUR:

... Patrick ELDER (c.1640) of Tealing, Angus [1]
: . . . . +Bessie DONALDSON; 1663, Dundee, Angus [1]
: . . . . +Eupham MONCUR; 1664, Dundee, Angus [1]
: . . . . . Jane ELDER (1665) of Dundee, Angus [1]
: . . . . . +David BLACK; 1686, Dundee, Angus [1]
: . . . . . John ELDER (1667) of Dundee, Angus [1]
: . . . . . Thomas ELDER (1668) of Dundee, Angus [1]
: . . . . . +Janet MONCURR; c.1695, Dundee, Angus [1]
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LDS FamilySearch.org  
Christening: Alexander ELDER, 22 Oct. 1704 Tealing Angus Scotland  
Father: George ELDER

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Searching for MONCUR in DUNDEE, Scotland

WorldConnect by Devin Moncur  [no ELDER in Index]
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3154539&id=I226
ID: I226
Name: James MONCUR
Birth: ABT 1759 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Christening: Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Note:
A brief History:
This name appears in very early charters, and it is suggested that it may derive from the French word 'coeur' meaning 'heart'.
Michael de Muncur, a soldier, witnessed a charter by Isabella Bruce, between 1237 and 1248.
Andrew de Monctour appears on the Ragman Roll rendering homage for his lands to Edward I of England in 1296.
Marriota de Moncur is listed by Black as being Lady de Rossy in 1302.
Andrew Moncur of that Ilk gave a bond of manrent to the Earl of Errol in 1541.
The Moncurs of that Ilk flourished around Perthshire, and their Castle of Moncur was in the Parish of Inchture in the Carse of Gowrie.
The Moncurs of Dundee had a high reputation as armourers in the 16th century. There are many references to armour made by them and they appear to have been armour makers to the royal court.

Tour Inchture In The Carse Of Gowrie
A battle was allegedly fought near the ruined castle of Moncur, across the main road to the north of the village, in 728, when in a civil war Hungus, or Angus, defeated Nectan and gained the leadership of the Picts.

Marriage 1 Agnes SPANKIE b: ABT 1763 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland
    •    Married: 15 Mar 1784 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland
    •    Sealing Spouse: 22 Jun 1937 in SLAKE
Children
    1.     George MONCUR b: 30 Dec 1784 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland c: 30 Dec 1788 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland
    2.     Robert MONCUR b: 18 May 1788 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland c: 25 May 1788 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland
    3.     James MONCUR c: 2 Oct 1796 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland

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MONCUR on Ancestry Family Tree, by "CaroleeMoncurPhD" of Heyburn, Idaho
 Moncur, James  1759 - Dundee, Angus, Scotland
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9971446/person/-287317549
 Index has 1 early Elder
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9971446/person/1287544547
Jonnet Elder - Birth 21 Dec 1596 in St Madoes, Perthshire, Scotland
Marriage to James Whytock (1595 – 1648)  -- Index has 300 WHYTOCK names, from 1590, etc.)       
Source: UK Extracted Probate Records - Ancestry.com
       Text: Elder, Janet, spouse to James Quhytok, cordiner,  burges of Perth - [Death] 05 Apr 1648 
       Book: Marriages. (Marriage)
Collection: Kincardineshire, Fife, Kinross, Perth, & Forfar:             
Commissariot of St. Andrew's, Register of Testaments, 1549-1800
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ILLINOIS ONLINE MARRIAGE INDEX - 1763-1900
at
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html
                                                                                                                         Date             Vol./Page
ELDER, JAMES M                       BROWN, LOUISA JANE                   1841-05-18    001/0184       GALLATIN
ELDER, JAMES M                       KINSALL, NANCY JANE                  1846-03-19    002/0006       GALLATIN
ELDER, JAMES M                       PATTILLO, MARTHA D                   1854-01-01    002/0188        GALLATIN

ELDER, DAVID D                       TROUSDALE, SUSANNAH              1838-01-25     001/0122       GALLATIN

REQUEST Copy from:
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2/countyclerkrecords.html

Gallatin County Clerk
Gallatin County Courthouse
Shawneetown, IL 62984

"Generally, the county clerk's office maintains the records of the county board,
plus the three favorite requests of genealogists -- births, marriage and death records"

  "Birth Records in the office start in 1878.
   Death records start that year also.
A self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE) is required for each written request.
All records $5, plus: There are additional fees for records prior to 1878,
which are a quarter per page to 1830, and $2 per copy from 1830 to 1878.

Marriage:
From January 28, 1830 through 1877 the county clerk's office has only the license from the books.
These list the bride, groom, date, the person who married the couple as well as the county clerk's name.
From 1878 to the present the office has both the license and application.
*****
Fort Worth, TEXAS Public Library - Genealogy dept.
at
http://www.fortworthgov.org/library/info/default.aspx?id=24852
      ---send us an email to
 [email protected]
       with "Genealogy" as the subject.

Gallatin Co., Illinois, probates
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins
Harrisburg, Ill. : The author, 1992-
Central Library Genealogy   977.397 SHEWMAKE v.2 No checkout

Early Gallatin County, Illinois probates
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins, Saline County Genealogical Society (Ill.)
Harrisburg, Ill. : Saline County Genealogical Society, c1990-
Central Library    Genealogy 977.397 EARLY    v.1 1990 No checkout

RESULTS:
--Librarian didn't find JAMES or ELEANOR listed (5/29/2009).
Did find some ELDER names, and noted each in pencil (no xeroxing)
Page 1:    Mentions John C. ELDER as an appraiser.
Page 32:  Mentions Samuel ELDER as an administrator.
Page 41:  Mentions Samuel ELDER as an administrator.

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Gallatin County, Illinois, newspapers
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins
Harrisburg, IL (601 S. Webster St., Harrisburg 62946-2560) : S. C. Shewmake, 1994-<1997>.
977.397 SHEWMAKE  v. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
no checkouts

RESULTS:
--Librarian found (5/29/2009)
Vol. 6 Page 14
2. From "GALLATIN COUNTY ILLINOIS NEWSPAPER ABSTRACTS,"
      in Newspaper:  SOUTHERN ILLINOIS ADVOCATE,
       Shawneetown, IL, Friday, Morning May 3, 1850
            "Notice - Whereas my wife Nancy Jane ELDER
      has left my bed and board without any cause or provocation whatever,
      this is to notify all persons from harboring her or trading with her on
       my account, as I am determined that I will not be accountable for
       any trade or contract made by her whatsoever."
      James M. ELDER. April 26, 1850"
 

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LDS (Mormon - Salt Lake City catalog also has:
  Early Gallatin County, Illinois probates (book only, no microfilms)
Contents: v. 1. ca. 1817-1883, 1890-1893 -- v. 2. ca. 1820-1847.

Gallatin County, Illinois newspapers  (book only)
 "The newspaper abstracts in this book were copied from Microfilm Roll #A-334 entitled
THE ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN, Shawneetown, Illinois covering news of Gallatin and surrounding counties....
"--vol. 1, 1st prelim. p. The 2nd vol. was copied from microfilm copies of the Gallatin Democrat and the Local Record,
both published in Shawneetown, Illinois.
 Abstracts from the 3rd vol. were obtained from 17 Gallatin County newspapers.Includes indexes.
Contents: v. 1. 1841 - 1843 -- v. 2. Jan. 7, 1898-Dec. 16, 1898; Apr. 17, 1880-Oct. 5, 1906 -- v. 3. 1829-1886
-- v. 4. Feb. 9, 1977-Jan. 24, 1879 (Shawnee Herald); Feb. 27, 1921-Dec. 13, 1923 (Gallatin Democrat)
-- v. 5. Sept. 4, 1914-Oct. 5, 1917 (News Gleaner) -- v. 6. Abstracts from 10 newspapers, ca. 1837-1881.
 

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To Fort Worth Public Library:
RE: GENEALOGY - PROBATE BOOK LOOKUP  -
 Could you find ELDER surnames in this book in your library catalog?

SURNAME:  ELDER, JAMES MORROW
 Died:  26 Sept 1858 in Gallatin County, ILLINOIS

SURNAME:  ELDER, ELEANOR DICKEY
Died after age 77 in 1870 census in Gallatin County, ILLINOIS

Ft. Worth Public Library catalog has;

"Early Gallatin County, Illinois probates "
by Shewmake, Shirley Cummins, Saline County Genealogical Society (Ill.)
Harrisburg, Ill. : Saline County Genealogical Society, c1990-
Central Library    Genealogy 977.397 EARLY    v.1 1990 No checkout
contents: v. 1. ca. 1817-1883

Also will ask Fort Worth Library to look up in Newspapers book:
v. 3. 1829-1886
vol. 6 - Abstracts from 10 newspapers, ca. 1837-1881.
Central Library    Genealogy
977.397 SHEWMAKE  v. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
no checkouts
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Gallatin Co IL GENWEB
at
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~ilgalla2

LINKS to book:
"Cemeteries in Gallatin Co IL & A History of the County," by Glen Miner
Book 1 Index
at
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/surnames.htm

Elder surname: 12, 20, 22, 24

First Land Grants in Gallatin Co IL:
at
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/1st_land.htm

North Fork Township T8S R8E
Elder, David 1835
Eleanor 1835
Elder, James M. 1836
Samuel C. 1839
William B. 1850
Samuel 1839

Book 1
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/Book1.htm

Page xii
The Southeast District, near Crawford, follows with children O to 20 following head of household.
The three school directors are also noted...
For the 1843-44 school term as follows
                                 (# in household)
Eleanor Elder            3
James M. Elder         1
John Elder, Dir.        0

Page xiii:
The Northwest District #3 of North Fork Precinct, N. of White Oak and West of North Fork Creek. 1843-44 School term
Samuel Elder, Dir.       4
**
Equality Village Cemetery, page 12
Elder, R. S. Co. K 131st Ill. INF.

Danner Cemetery in North Fork Twp.
Elder, George R. 1828-1865 (married Agnes Harget (dau of William) in 1853)

Crawford Cemetery, page 22
Elder, David D. d 1838 age 24 yrs. (David Dickey Elder, b. 1813)
       Louisa Jane d 1843 age 24 yrs. wife of James M. Elder
       Mary Eleanor d 1843 age 10 mo. dau of James & M. E.

page 24:
Elder, Albert F. 1857-1907
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Book 2 pt. 3:
CEMETERIES of Gallatin County, Illinois & A History of the County, by Glen Miner
at
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~davidca/Gall-cem/Book2pt3.htm

  Retail store licenses:
Cook & Elder, Adam Baker, F. G. Robinson, Crawford Rawlings, Bean & Roark at same stand in New Market

William S. Elder is listed as the miller in 1870.

Crawford had a Post Office from 1853 to 1867 located in the Alex Bruce (1824-97)
log home which accidentally burned a few years ago while occupied by the McDaniel family.
It was located on the north side of Crawford Creek. James M. Elder and Nathaniel Holderby
operated a store on the ridge, south of the creek and north of New Pleasant C. P. Church, from 1854 to 1860.
Rev. John Crawford lived nearby and donated the church and cemetery site now known as Crawford Campground Cemetery.
The store and the Bruce home were both on the old Shawneetown - McLeansboro Road.

FOUR EARLY SCHOOLS IN PRESENT DAY NORTH FORK TOWNSHIP.
An election of school trustees in T8 R8 was held on Dec. 9, 1837 and school districts
were set up soon afterward. Four districts were laid out and Rev. John Crawford was chosen
president and Rev. Benny Bruce as Secy./Treas.

Households in District #1:
Eleanor Elder   4 (# in household)
James M. Elder 2

Dist. #3
Samuel Elder      6

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Bureau of Land Management  patent search
at
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch

ILLINOIS
Patentee:   ELEANOR ELDER
Survey
State:  ILLINOIS
Acres:  40
Metes/Bounds: No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  7/28/1838
Land Office:  Shawneetown
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)

Patentee:   SAMUEL C ELDER
Survey
State:  ILLINOIS
Acres:  80   (& 78.2 #8504)
Metes/Bounds:  No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  7/1/1841
Land Office:  Shawneetown
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Numbers
Document Nr.:  8503
Accession/Serial Nr.:  IL0090__.255
BLM Serial Nr.:  IL NO S/N
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Patentee:  WILLIAM B ELDER
Survey
State:  ILLINOIS
Acres:  40
Metes/Bounds:  No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  12/2/1850
Land Office:  Shawneetown
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Numbers
Document Nr.:  12856
Accession/Serial Nr.:  IL1820__.240
BLM Serial Nr.:  IL NO S/N
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From Nancy Elder JAMES (via Linda Elder TESSENAIR) - new list:
RE: JOHN ELDER, Rev. War in SC
....
18.  John5 Elder (George Elder4 *, Alexander Elder3, John2 Elder, ?Elder1)
was born 1755 in Spartanburg County,SC, and died October 21, 1799 in Livingston County Ky.
He married Mary Morrow 1771 in Spartanburg County SC.
She was born 1755 in Waxhaw S.C., and died December 08, 1810 in Livingston County Ky..

Notes for John Elder:
1790 Census list 3 sons and 2 daughters under 16 but no names.
DEED: "John Elder  of settlement of Tyger River -w-Mary to Samuel Farrow of
Settlement of Enoree--Land on Brown Creek--Br.Broad River 450 acres.
Granted Aug 14 1775 to said John Elder."
Bond Daniel Huger and Wm.Williams;Wit: Andrew Thomason,
said John Elder,Philemon Waites Sr,Mary Elder,Sptg.Deed A 14 22/23.

Burial: Centerville Cemetery,Livingston,Ky.
Census: 1790, Spartanburg County,SC
Military service: Roster of SC Patriots in Amer.Rev.

Mary Morrow:
Burial: Centerville Cemetery,Livingston,Ky.

John Elder and Mary Morrow:  Marriage: 1771, Spartanburg County SC

Children of John Elder and Mary Morrow are:
    35    i.    David6 Elder, born July 12, 1791.
    36    ii.    Robert Elder, born 1792.
    37    iii.    Sarah Elder, born May 22, 1795.
    38    iv.    Katherine Elder, born May 21, 1778.
    39    v.    Samuel Elder, born 1781 in Spartanburg County S.C.; died 1833.
                 He married Margaret Elder July 09, 1810 in Kentucky; born 1794 in Spartanburg County S.C.; died 1834.

More about JOHN ELDER of Spartanburg  (in bio of INDIAN TRADER, William ELDER)
at
https://sites.rootsweb.com/~tnpolk2/elder.htm

   "On 16 Jan 1765 John Elder purchased 125 acres on Dutchman’s Creek of
the Tyger River from Robert Crowden, who received a royal grant of 600
acres there on 3 Sep 1753.
    In 1775 John Elder received a 450 acre grant on the Broad River.
 He also had a small piece of land on the Enoree River,
which he sold on 18 Dec 1778 to William Hendrix.
He was described as “John Elder of Dutchman’s Creek, farmer”.
The transaction was witnessed by James and Sarah Elder and testified to
William Gist, the Tory who lived on the Broad and Enoree Rivers (SC).
   On 4 May 1795 John Elder sold his 125 acres on Dutchman’s Creek to his
brother-in-law, Samuel Morrow Jr.
   He headed off to Kentucky.  The Morrows
continued to live on Dutchman’s Creek alongside Abraham Hembree
(brother of Drury Hembree) and later William W. Hembree and Owen Hembree."

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Canoe Trail on TYGER RIVER near Spartanburg
Enoree Ranger District
http://gorp.away.com/gorp/resource/us_river/sc_tyger.htm

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JOHN CLARK ELDER, from Judy Pintar's story page
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18642159/person/689984845

"History – Kentucky, a History of the State,"  
by Battle, Perrin, Kniffin 2nd ed. 1885 
Crittenden County._J. C. Elder, Jr., Crittenden County, was born in Equality, Gallatin County, Illinois, 24 August 1847.  Dr. J. C. Elder, Sr.  was born in what is now Crittenden County, then Livingston County, Kentucky 12 January 1819.  He was a son of David and Eleanor (Dickey) Elder.  His father was born in North Carolina, his mother in South Carolina
  " John Elder, the father of David, was a soldier in the Revolution, as was also four of his brothers; two of whom were killed in the conflict.  In 1791, David and Eleanor Elder came to Kentucky and settled two miles south of the present site of Marion.  There David bought 400 acres, which he subsequently divided among his children, and there he died 24 June 1832.
   "J. C. Elder, Sr., grew up in Crittenden County and remained there until he was seventeen. He then moved to Gallatin County, Illinois and settled on a farm twelve miles north of Shawneetown.  At the age of twenty-three he commenced studying medicine under Dr. E. H. Holman of Equality, Illinois.  He read with him two years. In 1847, he came to Dycusburg, Crittenden County, where he remained until January 1848.  He then settled four miles southwest of Marion, where he still resides.  He owns a tract of land of 162 acres with about 150 acres in cultivation. He remained actively engaged in the practice of his profession until 1880.  Since that time he has been living a retired life.  In 1870 he began milling and followed it untilk 1881. He was married 8 December 1843 to Miss Mary Ann Stinson, daughter of Andrew and Catherine (McCallister) Stinson, the father was born in North Carolina, the mother in Scotland. 
   "Mrs. Elder is the mother of ten children, of whom six are now living: J.C., Jr., Marzilla (wife of W. R. Jacobs) Mary E., Julia (wife of W. T. Bell), Martha C. and Charles.  J. C. Elder, Sr. is a member of the Northern Presbyterian Church.  He has served as deputy sheriff and county judge. He was a soldier in the late war.  He enlisted in the Twentieth Kentucky infantry, United States Army, but was subsequently detailed as quartermaster. He was soon, however taken sick and resigned.  He was afterward detailed as surgeon in several engagements. "