DAVE HUDELSON writes:
From: [email protected]
To: "Nancy Elder Petersen" <[email protected]>
CC: [email protected]
Subject:[NIR-ANTRIM] Nancy ELDER, b1771, Kilraughts, ANTRIM/ can
you
help?????
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007
>The Nancy ELDER b. 1771 in Kilraughts, ANTRIM, Ulster and
married
to David WILLSON/WILSON (cf. Ray Stephens on WorldConnect) indeed
is
my Nancy ELDER. Her obituary in Presbyterian Obituaries says
she was
from Ireland, even though there are other sources besides Mr.
Stephens's data base that say she was a "Scottish Lady." Her
gravestone in Lincoln County, MO says she died 26 Apr 1867 "in her
94th year."
A Bible which almost certainly was hers has the following entries:
David WILLSON died October 03, 1821
Margaret WILLSON, born March 23, 1791
James WILLSON, born October 11, 1796
Katherine WILLSON, born August 04, 1798
Mary WILLSON, born March 11, 1805
Nancy WILLSON, born August 07, 1807
Robert WILLSON, born March 11, 1811
Alexander WILLSON, born April 1813
Elizabeth WILLSON, born October 05, 1815
William T. WILLSON, born November 18, 1818
Most of these children, and some of their spouses and children, are
buried in "The David Wilson Cemetery" in Lincoln County, MO.
There
is a gravestone there for Mary WILLSON, but only a single date,
1805
(the year she was born.) In the book, "The Life of an Old
Time
Minister," by Rev. David E. Finley (a great grandson of Nancy ELDER
through her eldest son James, and James's daughter Elizabeth), page
18, it says: "The Wilson family on my mother's side came direct
from
Ireland. If I remember right, they came over in a sail boat
in 1803
[sic, actually 1805]. On the trip one of their small children
died
and they wrapped it up good and hid the body, hoping to bury it
on
land. However, the sharks gathered around the boat and the
Captain
called all on board and told them there was a dead body on board
and
if they did not bury it at sea the sharks would destroy the boat.
So
they buried the baby at sea."
It is my opinion that this baby must have been Mary WILLSON, which
is
why there is no date of death on her gravestone in MO. All
the rest
of Nancy ELDER's children can be accounted for.
I noticed in the Ballymony entries there are two ELDER names from
Kilraughts and the year 1818: Rev. Matthew ELDER and Robert
ELDER.
Since Nancy ELDER's obituary says that Rev. Matthew ELDER was her
pastor, but doesn't mention any filial connection, it seems unlikely
Matthew was her father. Might Robert ELDER be Nancy's father?
***
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:51:17 +0000
Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] Nancy ELDER, b1771, Kilraughts,
ANTRIM
>My name is dave Hudelson and I'm new to this list.
I am a great
great great grandson of Nancy ELDER, b 1771 in Kilraughts, ANTRIM.
According to my info, Nancy married about 1790 to David WILLSON
(so
spelled in an old family Bible, now spelled WILSON) of County Down.
She bore him ten children, the first three in County Antrim: Margaret
WILLSON, b. 23 Mar 1791; James WILLSON, b. 11 Oct 1793 and Katherine
WILLSON, b. 04 Aug 1798. David WILLSON and Nancy ELDER emigrated
in
probably 1805 to Fairfield District, SC, USA (via Charleston). They
lived there until 1818, when they moved to St. Louis, MO, and then
to
Lincoln County, Missouri. David WILLSON died there in 1823, Nancy
ELDER some forty years later.
This family were Associate Reformed Presbyterians.
Nancy ELDER's
obituary says that her pastor in County ANTRIM was Rev. Matthew
ELDER; I have no knowledge whether or how Matthew ELDER may have
been
related to Nancy ELDER. I have no information about Nancy's pedigree.
It is said the family had lived in ANTRIM since the earliest days
of
the Ulster Plantation, but had originally come from Scotland.
Some records suggest that David WILLSON was a
son of Isaac
WILLSON, born County Down, and Margaret GORDON, who was daughter
to
John GORDON and Nancy COLLUM; these latter two may have been born
in
England.
I'd be very interested in information from Ulster
about either
Nancy ELDER or David WILLSON.
***
BALLYMONEY DATA
from:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/BallymoneyData.htm
including:
REV. JAMES ELDER
"NOTE: this is information extracted from "Our Family History" by
William E. Elder...
...
"James, born 1755, who became the preacher at the Finvoy church
and
stayed in that position for 60 years....
James had two sons who emigrated to South Carolina in 1805.
The author states nothing more is known of that line...."
This Rev. Matthew ELDER fits with the BALLMONEY DATA:
see:
1818_kilraughts
Firstname : Reverend Matthew
Surname : Elder
Craig ELDER's (PAXTANG DNA) from WorldConnect:
at
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1697853&id=I77236322
# ID: I77236322
# Name: Matthew ELDER
# Given Name: Matthew
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1780 in Balleymoney, Antrim, Ireland
Father: John W (IV) ELDER b: 1752 in Balleymoney, Antrim, Ireland
***
FROM Ray STEPHENS:
WorldConnect
E-mail: RayDStephens at earthlink.net
at
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3281087&id=I247191
# ID: I247191
Name: Nancy ELDER
Surname: Elder
Given Name: Nancy
Sex: F
Birth: 1771 in , , Scotland, Great Britain
Marriage 1 David WILSON b: 1769 in , , Ireland, Ireland
Children
1. James WILSON b: 10 Oct 1794 in , , Ireland, Ireland
2. Catherine WILSON b: 4 Aug 1798 in , , Ireland, Ireland
3. Robert WILSON b: 11 Mar 1809 in , , South Carolina, USA
4. David WILSON b: 12 Jan 1811 in , , South Carolina, USA
5. Alexander Kincade WILSON b: 1 Apr 1813 in , , South Carolina,
USA
(Ray STEPHENS has other ELDER lines picked up in his database, including
the CATHOLIC ELDER line)
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