--- Karen Hanson wrote:
> Most of the info I gave you about Owen Leroy Elder the younger (my
> great-g'father) was from my great-aunt, the family historian and
> his daughter-in-law. The 11 Mar 1883 birthdate was also reported on
> his draft card for WW I. He reported Arkansas as his birthplace in
> the censuses, his draft card, and to the family. I found him later
> living as a teen with a Pollie & John Bowyer, he was reported to be
> a nephew, John was from New York, so I believe Pollie was his
> relative. I don't know where his father died, but he died in
> Linwood, Delaware county, PA on 18 Sept 1942. Maude was born 8 Jun
> 1887 supposedly in Paris, Henry county, TN. She died 1 Jun 1960 in
> Chester, Delaware county, PA. I haven't been able to find any
> marriage location for them. They were not very well-off, he was a
> logger and they followed logging camps, never having a permanent
> home until they came North in 1923-- maybe they flew under the
> radar and weren't on public records?? But the census always seemed
> to be able to find them. Their oldest child, Annie May, was born 24
> Dec 1903 supposedly in Hope, ARK. The next 3 kids (including my
> g'mother) were born in LA, the last baby who only lived 9 days was
> supposedly born in Benton, Saline co., ARK. That's pretty much all
> I know about his younger days. i have been at this stone wall for
> 34 years, since I started this when i was a kid.
>
> Any help or direction you could give would be greatly
> appreciated!!!
> Thanks,
> Karen Hanson

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Bill Smith believes Harris O. ELDER is Owen's father:
  This looks like Harris O. ELDER in 1880:

1880 census - Ancestry.com
Name:   H.O. Elder
Home in 1880: Independence, Lee, Arkansas
Age:  34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Birthplace:  Mississippi
Relation to Head of Household:  Self (Head)
Father's birthplace:  Kentucky
Mother's birthplace:  Arkansas
Occupation:  Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race:  White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name  Age
H.O. Elder          34   MS KY AR Farmer
R,J, Dozier         36   MS KY AR Sister
Wm.W. Dozier   13   AR MS AL Nephew    Laborer
Francis Dozier   11   AR MS AL Niece         Laborer
Jason Dozier     10   AR MS AL  Nephew    Laborer
Lou Elder           21   AR MS AL Sister        Boarder
H.J. Bowden       21   AR AL MS Nephew   Boarder
Source Citation: Year: 1880;
 Census Place: Independence, Lee, Arkansas;
Roll: T9_49; Family History Film: 1254049;
Page: 572.1000; Enumeration District: 165; Image: 0341.

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Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Eastern Arkansas
at
http://www.couchgenweb.com/arkansas/lee/biog-lee.htm
...FRANCIS M. BOWDON , married
 "Miss Caroline ELDERS, a native
of Mississippi, who died in 1862, leaving four children...."
one son, H. J., being the only one living, and who now has charge of his father's farm..."

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1870
Name:   H O Elder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Age in 1870:  24
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Home in 1870:  Independence, Phillips, Arkansas
Race:  White
Gender:  Male
Post Office:  Mariana
Household Members:
Name  Age
H O Elder  24 AR  Farm Labor
E R Elder    19 AR Farm Labor
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Independence, Phillips,
Arkansas; Roll: M593_60; Page: 28; Image: 55.

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Benton, Saline, AR to Mount Ida, AR
Total Estimated Time: 1 hour 23 minutes  Total Estimated Distance: 69.15 miles
at
http://www.mapquest.com/mq/10-ZCDlz9dAWL88kASp

1930
Name:   Le Roy Elder
Home in 1930:  Marcus Hook, Delaware, Pennsylvania
Age:  46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name:  Maud
Race:  White
Household Members:
Name  Age
Le Roy Elder           46 AR AR AR  (1884)
Maud Elder             42 TN NY TN   (1888)
Leon Elder               17 AR AR TN  (1913)
Sallie Wilkinson     63 TN TN TN  (mother-in-law) (1867)
 Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Marcus Hook, Delaware,
Pennsylvania; Roll: 2032; Page: 29A; Enumeration District: 89; Image:
97.0.

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1920
Name:   Robert WILKINSON
[Robert Wilkinson]
Home in 1920:  Port Arthur Ward 2, Jefferson, Texas
Age:  70 years
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1850
Birthplace:  Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name:  Rallie
Father's Birth Place:  New York
Mother's Birth Place:  New York
Marital Status:  Married
Race:  White
Sex:  Male
Home owned:  Rent
Able to read:  Yes
Able to Write:  Yes
Household Members:
Name  Age
Robert Wilkinson     70
Sallie Wilkinson       50
Robert Wilkinson     13
Jim Breght                 20
William Layton          26
Source Citation: Year: 1920;
Census Place: Port Arthur Ward 2, Jefferson, Texas;
 Roll: T625_1822; Page: 22A; Enumeration District: 106; Image: 801.

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1920 (same page as WILKINSON)
Name:   Roy Elder  (Indexed ELDIE)
Home in 1920:  Port Arthur Ward 2, Jefferson, Texas
Age:  37 years
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1883
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relation to Head of House:  Head
Spouse's Name:  Maude
Father's Birth Place:  Arkansas
Mother's Birth Place: Arkansas
Marital Status: Married
Race:  White
Sex:  Male
Home owned:  Own
Able to read:  Yes
Able to Write:  Yes
Household Members:
Name  Age
Roy Elder             37  AR AR AR (Cooper, Cooperage)
Maude Elder        33  TN  IL  TN
Ama May Elder   16  AR
Leroy Elder         11  LA
Louise Elder         6   LA
Leon Elder            5  LA
Source Citation: Year: 1920;
Census Place: Port Arthur Ward 2, Jefferson, Texas;
Roll: T625_1822; Page: 22A; Enumeration District: 106; Image: 801.

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WWI draft Card
Name:   Owen Leroy Elder
City:  Cotton Plant Township
County: Woodruff
State:  Arkansas
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1883
Race:  White
Roll:  1530657
Mill Foreman
Relatives: Maude and May Elder
Sept. 12, 1918

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1900
Name:   Roy Elder
Home in 1900: Hampton, Lee, Arkansas
Age:  17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relationship to head-of-house: Nephew
Name  Age
John Bowyer       59  NY PA NY
Pollie Bowyer     42  AR NC NC
Mattie Bowyer    23  TX
Bessie Bowyer     14  AR
Lee Bowyer         12  AR
Eura Bowyer        9   AR
Sidney Bowyer     7   AR
Henry Bowyer      3   AR
Roy Elder           17  AR TN TN
  Source Citation: Year: 1900;
Census Place: Hampton, Lee, Arkansas;
Roll: T623 65; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 42.

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1910
Name:   Roy ELDER
Age in 1910:  29  [27]
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1881 [abt 1883]
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law
Father's Birth Place: United States of America
Mother's Birth Place: United States of America
Spouse's Name:  Maud
Home in 1910:  Police Jury Ward 2, Bienville, Louisiana
Marital Status: Married
Race:  White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name  Age
Robt D Willison 52 [58]  [WILKERSON]  [1858]  GA [IL] m: IL
Sallie Willison      41  TN IL IL
Mallie Willison    16  MS IL TN
Robt Willison        3  AR IL TN
Roy ELDER         29 AR USA USA   (-- Inspector)
Maud ELDER     22  GA IL GA
Annie M ELDER  6   AR AR TN
Larry ELDER        2   LA AR TN
Source Citation: Year: 1910;
Census Place: Police Jury Ward 2, Bienville, Louisiana;
Roll: T624_509; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 4; Image: 144.

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Pauline Miller  (same page as BOWYER)
Home in 1900:  Hampton, Lee, Arkansas
Age:  2
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1898
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relationship to head-of-house:  Daughter
Father's Name:  George Logger
Mother's Name:  Dora
Race:  White
Household Members:
Name  Age
George Logger Miller  29  AR AL AR
Dora Miller  25  AR TN AR
Percy Miller  6  AR
Ivy Miller  4  AR
Pauline Miller  2 AR
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Hampton, Lee, Arkansas;
Roll: T623 65; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 42.
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   1910 United States Federal Census
   Name: Sidney Boyer
   Age in 1910: 17
   Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
   Birthplace: Arkansas
   Relation to Head of House: Son
   Father's Name: J Charles
   Father's Birth Place: New York
   Mother's Name: Polly
   Mother's Birth Place: North Carolina
   Home in 1910: Spring Creek, Lee, Arkansas
   Marital Status: Single
   Race: White
   Gender: Male
   J Charles Boyer 73
   Polly Boyer 50
   Lee Boyer 21
   Sidney Boyer 17
   Henry Boyer 13
   Pauline Miller 13

   Note that it is J Charles' 2nd marriage. And Polly is the mother of 8 children, 4 living.

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1920  Line 84-87
Name:   Sidney Boyer
Home in 1920:  Oak Forest, Lee, Arkansas
Age:  23 years
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1897
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relation to Head of House:  Son
Father's Birth Place:  New York
Mother's Name:  Mary
Mother's Birth Place:  Arkansas
Marital Status:  Single
Race:  White
Sex:  Male
Able to read:  Yes
Able to Write:  Yes
Household Members:
Name  Age
Mary Boyer  64
Lee Boyer  31
Sidney Boyer  23
Henry Boyer  20  (1900)
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Oak Forest, Lee, Arkansas;
Roll: T625_69; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 127; Image: 967.
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Mother is Widow (f: NC  m: NC)
Name:   Mary Boyer
Home in 1920:  Oak Forest, Lee, Arkansas
Age:  64 years
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1856
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relation to Head of House:  Head
Father's Birth Place:  North Carolina
Mother's Birth Place:  North Carolina
Marital Status:  Widow

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1930
Name:   Henry Boyer
Home in 1930:  Spring Creek, Lee, Arkansas
Age:  31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name:  Rubie
Race:  White
Household Members:
Name  Age
Henry Boyer  31  AR AR AR  (Mechanic Ginner)
Rubie Boyer  23 AR AR AR
Jennie Boyer  2   AR
Annie Boyer  1   AR
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Spring Creek, Lee, Arkansas;
Roll: 81; Page: 19A; Enumeration District: 22; Image: 481.0.

Lee BOYER is next door  42 AR AR AR  (Occ: Mechanic - Ginner) - no family

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WWI Draft Card
Name:   Sidney L Boyer
City:  Tulsa
County:  Tulsa
State:  Oklahoma
Birthplace:  Aubrey, [Lee county] Arkansas;
Birth Date:  21 Oct 1893 (Sidney is 7 in 1900 census = 1893)
Race:  Caucasian (White)
Roll:  1852130
DraftBoard:  0
OCC: Oil Well Supply
Source Citation: Registration Location:
Tulsa County, Oklahoma; Roll: 1852130; Draft Board: 0.

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WWI Draft card
Name:   Claburne Lee Boyer
City:  Cotton Plant Township
County:  Lee
State:  Arkansas
Birthplace:  Arkansas;
Birth Date:  9 May 1888  (Lee was 12 in 1900 census = 1888)
Race:  Caucasian (White)
Roll:  1530469
DraftBoard:  0
Employed: Farming, AUBREY, LEE CO AR
Source Citation: Registration Location:
 Lee County, Arkansas; Roll: 1530469; Draft Board: 0.
 

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WorldConnect
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ramer1&id=I00649

by William Ramer Smith
# ID: I00649
# Name: Sidney Lawson BOYER 1 2
# Sex: M
# Birth: 21 OCT 1893 in Aubrey, Lee Co., AR 3 4 5 6 7
# Death: AFT 1935
# Reference Number: 649
Father: John Clinton BOYER b: 19 JUL 1839 in Rochester, NY
Mother: Pauline Lovina MILLER b: 16 APR 1859 in AR

Marriage 1 Mildred ??
    * Married: AFT 1920
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FATHER:
# ID: I00347
# Name: Henry Goldman BOYER 1 2 3
# Sex: M
# Birth: 21 DEC 1897 in Cotton Plant, Woodruff Co., AR 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
# Death: 3 MAY 1968 in Memphis, Shelby Co., TN 1 3 4 5
# Burial: MAY 1968 Marianna, Lee Co., AR 5
# Occupation: Cotton ginner 11
# Reference Number: 347

Father: John Clinton BOYER b: 19 JUL 1839 in Rochester, NY
Mother: Pauline Lovina MILLER b: 16 APR 1859 in AR

Marriage 1 Ruby Kathleen PERRY b: 14 APR 1906 in Tyronza, Poinsett Co., AR
    * Married: 4 DEC 1926

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WorldConnect
by William Ramer Smith
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ramer1&id=I03930
# ID: I03930
# Name: Thomas L. ELDER 1 2
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1811 in KY 1 3
# Death: BET 1873 AND 23 NOV 1876 in Lee Co., AR 4
# Reference Number: 3930

Marriage 1 Martha C. ?? b: 9 JAN 1816 in GA
Children
   1.  Elizabeth Caroline ELDER b: 1834 in AR
   2.  Thomas P. ELDER b: 1838 in AR
   3.  Rosina J. ELDER b: 1843 in AR
   4.  Harris O. ELDER b: 1845 in MS
   5.  Eli R. ELDER b: JAN 1851 in MS
   6.  Martha A. ELDER b: 1852 in AR
   7.  Louisa ELDER b: 1858 in AR

Sources:
   1. Title: 1860 Arkansas Census, Monroe Co., Hampton TWP.
      Repository:
      Media: Census
      Page: Series: M653 Roll: 46 Page: 819
   2. Title: Lackie Cemetery Listing, Lee Co., AR
      Author: Hartley, Jane
      Publication: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~arlee2/lackiecemetery.htm
      Repository:
      Media: Internet
   3. Title: 1850 Mississippi Census, Madison Co.
      Repository:
      Media: Census
      Page: Roll: M432_376; Page: 157
   4. Title: Lee County, Arkansas Administrative Records, Book A, 1873-1904; Part 2
      Publication: Tri-County Genealogy, Tri-County Genealogical Society, Marvell, AR, Vol. 22, No. 1, Spring 2007, pp. 8-10
      Repository:
      Media: Magazine
      Page: This lists T. L. Elder as having died shortly prior to 23 Nov 1876.

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BLM - GLO  Land Patents for ARKANSAS
Patentee:  THOMAS L ELDER
State:  ARKANSAS
Acres:  40
Metes/Bounds: No
Title Transfer
Issue Date:  9/1/1856
Land Office:  Helena
Cancelled:  No
U.S. Reservations:  No
Mineral Reservations:  No
Authority:  April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Numbers
Document Nr.:  5736
Accession/Serial Nr.: AR1740__.462
BLM Serial Nr.:  AR NO S/N
SESE  17/    2-N   3-E     5th PM   AR   Lee
Document has "SouthEast quarter of the Southeast quarter" - Phillips Co AR
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CENSUS for 1860 and 1850 As referenced by William Ramer Smith:
1860
Name:   Thos S Elder
Age in 1860:  49
Birth Year:  abt 1811
Birthplace:  Kentucky
Home in 1860:  Hampton, Monroe, Arkansas
Gender:  Male
Post Office:  Moro
Household Members:
Name  Age
Thos S Elder  49  KY  (farmer)
Rosina J Elder  16  AR
Harris O Elder  14  MS
Eli R Elder  10  MS
Martha A Elder 8    AR
Louisa Elder  2    AR
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: Hampton, Monroe, Arkansas;
Roll: M653_46; Page: 819; Image: 295.

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1860  SON
Name:   Thos P Elder
Age in 1860:  21
Birth Year:  abt 1839
Birthplace:  Arkansas
Home in 1860:  Hampton, Monroe, Arkansas
Gender:  Male
Post Office:  Moro
Household Members:
Name  Age
Jno Richison       26  TN  (Grocery merchant)
Mary J Richison  24  TN
Jno W Richison  3    TN
Jos L Richison            2   TN
Mary L Patterson  12  TN
Thos P Elder            21  AR (farmer)
Thos W Hanley  21  Ireland (carpenter)
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Hampton, Monroe, Arkansas;
Roll: M653_46; Page: 824; Image: 300.
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CIVIL WAR - THOMAS P. ELDER
http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/2dinfcod.html

2D ARKANSAS  INFANTRY REGIMENT. CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA
COMPANY D
...ELDER, THOMAS P. Pvt  - Age 22. Enl 1 Jun 1861 at Helena, AR.
Died of typhoid fever in hospital at Ringold, GA 22 Aug 1863

Ancestry.com - Civil War Soldiers:
Name:   Thomas P. Elder
Side:  Confederate
Regiment State/Origin:  Arkansas
Regiment Name:  2 Arkansas Infantry
Regiment Name Expanded:  2nd Regiment, Arkansas Infantry
COMPANY:  D
Rank In:  Sergeant
Rank In Expanded:  Sergeant
Rank Out:  Private
Rank Out Expanded: Private
Film Number:  M376 roll 7

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1850
Name:   Thomas L Elder
Age:  39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Birth Place:  Kentucky
Gender:  Male
Home in 1850(City,County,State):  Madison, Mississippi
Household Members:
Name  Age
Thomas L Elder  39  KY (Overseer)
Martha C Elder  36  GA
Elizabeth C Elder  15  AR
Thomas P Elder  12  AR
Rosanna J Elder  6    AR
Horace Elder        4     MS
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place:  , Madison, Mississippi;
 Roll: M432_376; Page: 156; Image: 311.

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Name:   John Martin Elder
Age:  60
Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1790
Birth Place:  Ireland
Gender:  Male
Home in 1850(City,County,State):  Madison, Mississippi
Household Members:
Name  Age
John Martin Elder  60  Ireland (PLANTER)
James Hays           30  TN (Overseer)
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place:  , Madison, Mississippi;
Roll: M432_376; Page: 181; Image: 361.

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1840
Name:   Jno M Elder
County:  Madison
State:  Mississippi
Number of persons in household:
Source Citation: Year: 1840;
 Census Place:  , Madison, Mississippi; Roll: 216; Page: 111.
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1830
Name:   John M Elder
County:  Madison
State:  Mississippi
Number of persons in household:
Source Citation: Year: 1830;
Census Place:  , Madison, Mississippi; Roll: 71; Page: 100.
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Madison Co MS - Genweb
Search ELDER
found census for 1850
http://theusgenweb.org/ms/madison/1850census/cene.htm
John Martin Elder - 769-784 - Page 181B
      Household of John Martin Elder was enumerated on
Saturday, December 23, 1850. Surnames in household: ELDER
            John Martin Elder, 60 M, Planter $30,000, IRE

Thomas L. Elder - 381-391 - Page 156B - 157
      Household of Thomas L. Elder was enumerated on
Friday, November 5, 1850. Surnames in household: ELDER
            Thomas L. Elder, 32 M, Overseer, AL
            Martha C.,            36 F, GA
            Elizabeth C.,        15 F, AR
            Thomas P.,           12 M, AR
            Rosanna J.,           6 F, AR
            Horace,                  4 M, MS

Genweb - also  several WILLS as Executor and Friend
Daisy Elder
      ELDER
      Cause #19-914; Book 12; Page 459
John Martin Elder
      ELDER
      Cause #1064; Book A; Page 377

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