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Re: Elder Family of Crocker MO
sbaker2318 (Ancestry e-mail)
Posted: 26 Jul 2010 5:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
>My great Grandfather is also James Borland Elder...his son Howard Orville Elder married Elizabeth Jane McManes
(sp)...divorced?...their son Lloyd Stanley Elder is my father.....looking for ancestors and Howard's other decendents.
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and
ELDER genforum - James Borland ELDER - Howard Orville ELDER
December 22, 1999 by Cynthia Hinman
http://genforum.genealogy.com/elder/messages/630.html
I am looking for ELDER FAMILY of James B
Elder b. 9/28/1850,wife Melva b.10/1/1862.
2nd marriage for both of them 11/29/1889.
James 1st son was BURT, Melva had 2 daughters
Edna Grace Jeffries & Alta Lee Jeffries. Then
They had MY grandfather Howard Orville ELDER
10/1/1890. THEY MOVED from Crocker to
La Junta CO. Burt Married Lou and moved back to
Kansas City. His Children were: Irene, Opal,
Edith,Mildred,Albert & Vernon. LOOKING FOR
there children,grandchildren in KS/MO area.
And the records/Graves of ELDER FAMILY in
Crocker/Pulaski county area. Court house
burned down..they only have records from 1901
forward. There is a Tiny Church in a wooded
area, with a creek you have to cross to get to it
with a cemetery there. ELDERS are
buried there from James B. ELDER's,parents
and generations before him. IF any of this RINGS
a BELL with you, let me know. Thank you!
(Note: Borland could be another surname used
as a middle name from his mother)
Nancy replied to "S BAKER" on ANCESTRY e-mail, July 26, 2010
>Have you seen these files, traced to
Pennsylvania for John R. ELDER?
Could they be the same family?
1920
Name: Howard O Elder
Home in 1920: Precinct 7, Otero, Colorado
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Son
Spouse's name: Pearl
Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Mother's Name: Melva
Mother's Birth Place: Iowa
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Melva Elder 56
Howard O Elder 29
Pearl Elder 21
Dorothy Dix Elder 1
Source Citation: Year: 1920;
Census Place: Precinct 7, Otero, Colorado;
Roll T625_169; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 159; Image: 82.
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http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=funstontree&id=P3144261889
by Dale Funston
# D: P3144261889
# Census: 13 JAN 1920 La Junta, Otero County, Colorado, USA 1
# Census: 21 APR 1910 La Junta, Otero County, Colorado, USA 2
# Census: 09 JUN 1900 Tavern Township, Pulaski County, Missouri, USA 3
# Birth: 01 OCT 1890 in Missouri, USA
# Sex: M
# Name: Howard Orville Elder
# Given Name: Howard Orville
# Surname: Elder
# Change Date: 05 MAY 2009 at 20:36:14
# _PGVU: dalefunston
# Death: 09 NOV 1962 in La Junta, Otero County, Colorado, USA
# Burial:
# CEME: Fairview Otero County, Colorado, USA
HintsAncestry Hints for Howard Orville Elder
3 possible matches found on Ancestry.com Ancestry.com
Father: James Borland Elder b: 22 SEP 1851 in Crocker, Pulaski County, Missouri, USA
Mother: Melva Arabell Funston b: 1 OCT 1862 in Washington County, Iowa, USA
Marriage 1 Ida Pearl Bookstool b: 1898 in Iowa, USA
* Married: 27 SEP 1917 in Pueblo County, Colorado, USA
Sources:
1. Title: US Federal Census
Repository:
Name: Heritage Quest
Page: 1920, Series T625, Roll 169, Page 39
2. Title: US Federal Census
Repository:
Name: Heritage Quest
Page: 1910, Series T624, Roll 123, Page 50
3. Title: US Federal Census
Repository:
Name: Heritage Quest
Page: 1900, Series T623, Roll 882, Page 256
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1870
Name: B James Elder
Birth Year: abt 1850
Age in 1870: 20
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Tavern, Pulaski, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Waynesville
Household Members:
Name Age
R John Elder 54
Mary Elder 54
F Joseph Elder 26
F John Elder 14
A Mary Elder 22
B James Elder 20
W William Elder 14
Source Citation: Year: 1870;
Census Place: Tavern, Pulaski, Missouri;
Roll M593_801; Page: 210B; Image: 102;
Family History Library Film: 552300.
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1880
Name: James B. Elder
Home in 1880: Tavern, Pulaski, Missouri
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's Name: John R.
Father's birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's birthplace: Ohio
Occupation: Farming
Marital Status: Widower
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
John R. Elder 64 (1816 OH Ire PA) Farming
Mary Elder 64
James B. Elder 29 (1851 PA)
William N. Elder 23
Almedy Pickering 10 (Granddaughter)
John B. Pickering 2
Source Citation: Year: 1880;
Census Place: Tavern, Pulaski, Missouri;
Roll 711; Family History Film: 1254711; Page: 416D; Enumeration District: 147; Image: 0034.
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1860
Name: John R Elder
Age in 1860: 44
Birth Year: abt 1816
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1860: Darlington, Beaver, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Post Office: Darlington
Household Members:
Name Age
John R Elder 44
Mary Elder 44
Samuel M Elder 19
Mathew H Elder 17
Joseph F Elder 15
John F Elder 13
Mary A Elder 11
James B Elder 9 (1851 PA)
William N Elder 4
Vilet Greer 12
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: Darlington, Beaver, Pennsylvania;
Roll M653_1071; Page: 142; Image: 146; Family History Library Film: 805071.
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Have you seen this history of Beaver Co PA?
Bio of Matthew ELDER, b. 1788 - emig. to America 1812
at
http://www.pa-roots.org/data/read.php?104,574305
MATTHEW
ELDER (deceased), whose portrait appears elsewhere in this volume, was
born in the parish of Finvoy, County Antrim, Ireland, in January, 1788.
In 1812 he came to America, and after working as a weaver in a woolen
mill at Wilmington, Del., went to Columbiana county, Ohio. On the 15th
of September, 1815, he was married, at New Lisbon, to Mary, daughter of
Thomas Frederick. The latter was carried off by Indians from Eastern
Pennsylvania in childhood, and remained with them until he had nearly
lost all knowledge of the language and customs of the whites. On his
return to his home he had some difficulty in establishing his identity,
and was only recognized by a scar on the back of his neck, which was
familiar to his mother. At the time of his marriage Mr. Elder was
operating a woolen mill in New Lisbon, and so continued until the mill
was destroyed by fire in 1820. The next year he built a factory on
Little Beaver Creek. In Darlington township, two miles below Cannelton;
and while the factory was being built he ran a set of cards in the mill
half a mile above the factory. This was in what was then called Little
Beaver township. At that time they had to go to what is now called Old
Enon to vote, and the nearest postoffice, Greersburg, was five miles
away. The name of the town was changed to Darlington on account of
letters addressed to Greersburg going to Greensburg. Then the township
was divided and called Darlington, and what was left of Little Beaver
township went into Lawrence county when that was formed. Mr. Elder did
an extensive business and bought nearly all the wool grown in Beaver,
Lawrence and Washington counties, Pa., and Columbiana county, Ohio. He
possessed a considerable tract of land about the mill at one time.
Between the years 1830 and 1840 he owned, remodeled and enlarged the
grist mill and oil mill and bought wheat and flaxseed, which was a
great advantage to the farmers at that time. Between the years 1841 and
1843 he dug a tail race three-quarters of a mile long, walled the same
with stone on both sides. It was to gain a fall so that he could
remodel and put in an overshot wheel; the cost of this was $10,000 or
over. In 1844 he built a large brick store and dwelling, and in 1845
opened a store of general merchandise, which had the most extensive
line of custom of any store in the country. He was a great admirer of
fine horses, a passion which is characteristic of his descendants. His
grandsons are now engaged in breeding Clydesdale and coach horses, and
also fine cattle and swine. In 1851 Mr. Elder again suffered from the
fire-fiend, his mill being swept away. He at once rebuilt and continued
to operate it until his death, which occurred in 1863. His faithful
helpmate also passed away during the same year. Mrs. Elder was born
Aug. 25, 1797. Mr. Elder was universally regarded as a very useful
citizen. He attended strictly to his own business which was beneficial
to the community, and gave little attention to public affairs, his only
service in that line having been to serve as judge or inspector of
election in the township, which he could not avoid; he served as a
director of the old United States Bank of Beaver county in New
Brighton, before the administration of Andrew Jackson. He adhered, as
do his descendants, to the Presbyterian faith, Associate branch, and
voted with the Whig party and its Republican successor. He was noted
for his benevolence and hospitality, and was a benefactor to the poor
and laboring. None ever sought work but got it if possible; if not and
had not the means to travel further, he was provided with means.
Neither man or beast ever went hungry away. In the busy season the
table was rarely uncovered from noon until night, and more meals were
served and horses fed than at a large majority of the hotels. He gave a
home in his family to an old man named John McConnell, a distant
relative from the same part of Ireland that Mr. Elder came from, and
fed and clothed him for thirty years, and buried him. He also gave a
home to a boy named Joseph Green, whom the poor board brought to him;
he was of weak intellect, but Mr. Elder kept him also until his death,
which occurred a few years before his own. Of his twelve children eight
reached maturity. The eldest, John R., now resides in Pulaski county,
Mo.; Margaret Ann, widow of John Taggart, resides in Palestine, Ohio;
Thomas F., (see sketch below); Matilda, widow of William Sterling,
resides in Lectonia, Ohio; Mary Jane was the wife of Daniel H. Wallace,
and died at her home in New Castle, Pa.; Elizabeth Catharine, wife of
Walter D. Sprout, died in Darlington township; Hannah died unmarried;
Rebecca, widow of Calvin F. Chamberlin, resides at Palestine; Mary,
Matthew and Henry (twins) all died in childhood, as did also a son
named Matthew Henry.
(Source:
History of Beaver County, Pennsylvania, J. F. Richard, A. Warner &
Co., Pubs., 1888: Biographies--West Side, Chapter 26.)
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Looking again at the 1850 census
in Ancestry.com:
1850
Name: John R Elder
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Birth Place: Ohio
Gender: Male
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Darlington, Beaver, Pennsylvania
Family Number: 141
Household Members:
Name Age
John R Elder 34 (Manufacturer) (Neighbor Matthew age 61 IRE (Manufacturer)
Mary Elder 34
Samuel Elder 10 (1840 PA)
Matthew Elder 8 (1842 PA)
Joseph Elder 6 (1844 PA)
John Y Elder 4 (1846 PA)
Mary Elder 2 (1848 PA)
Sarah Risinger 21
James Marshall 15 PA (Woolen Finisher)
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: Darlington, Beaver, Pennsylvania;
Roll M432_750; Page: 118A; Image: 236.
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1850
Name: Matthew Elder
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1789
Birth Place: Ireland
Gender: Male
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Darlington, Beaver, Pennsylvania
Family Number: 140
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Elder 61 (Manufacturer) IRE - Next door to John R. ELDER in 1850
Mary Elder 50
Elizabeth Elder 19
Hannah Elder 12
Rebecca Elder 9
Robert Y Wallace 20 PA Farmer
Peter Seaton 19 PA Woolen Finisher
William Palmer 17 PA Woolen Finisher
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: Darlington, Beaver, Pennsylvania;
Roll M432_750; Page: 118A; Image: 236.
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Also see notes and links for
ELDER Ancestors in Finvoy, Co Antrim,
Northern Ireland
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/BallymoneyData.htm
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