From:  [email protected] (MRS MARY H COLE)
Reply-To:  [email protected]

RE: Thomas, Robert, James &
  John Elder of White Deer Township, Northumberland Co. Pa.
 I'm looking for  additional information for James Elder, Northumberland Co.
 The Annals of Buffalo Valley, Pennsylvania
      1755-1855 Collated by John Blair Linn
references Thomas Elder of Northumberland County a number of times.
On page 179 Thomas Elder has rented pew No. 31 of the Buffalo
Cross-Roads Presbyterian Church with David Buchanan and Robert  Elder (1791).
On page 306 Thomas Elder is listed as an  inhabitant of White Deer Township (1796).
This indicated he was a school master with a cabin, stable, and corn-crib.
  James Elder is also listed as residing in White Deer Township and  it appears that he may live with Thomas.
On page 332 (1802)  Robert Elder is listed as a resident of East Buffalo
 Township, Northumberland Co. and that he lives on John Kelly's place.

Thomas Elder had a son John who participated in the Rev. War and the
 following pension file appeared in the
Elder Family Newsletter, Vol. 3 #2,
 (April, May, June 1995) Page 19.
 John Elder Mary. Pension Record #w24117, Pennsylvania Line.
Soldier was a son of Thomas Elder and was born in 1762 in Chester Co. PA and
lived in White Deer Valley in Northumberland (later Union)  Co. PA at enlistment.
 It stated after his service soldier went to Chester Co. PA until the
close of the Rev. War then returned to Northumberland Co. (Union Co)and
about 1814 he moved to Centre Co. PA and he applied there 29April 1834.
   He died 19 Jan 1835 at Salona in Centre Co. PA.
  He married Mary Polly (or Molly) Dougherty on 7Nov 1793
at soldier's father Thomas Elder's home  in Whitedeer Twp. PA.
She was born Nov 1766 and died 30 or 31 Dec 1848.
Children listed were:
Margarit or Peggy born 7 Jul 1794 and she married a Thompson & in 1839 she was living in Holmes Co. OH.
  James born 22 Nov 1795.
John born 14 Apr 1797
 Thomas born 20 Oct. 1798,
 one name torn off record was born 13 Jan 1804, Robert born 2 Nov. 1807, William no birth date,
Mary no birth date but she married a John Wilson, Ann no birth date but she married a George Walters and the
oldest child shown was Joshua born 18 Mar 1793 the name of his mother wasn't given.
 The widow died leaving 5 children: Margaret Thompson, James Elder, Ann Walters or Waltors, William Elder and
Mary Wilson.  The son, James Elder, made application 23 Feb 1852 at Clearfield Co. PA and was a resident of Bell Twp. PA.
 [Source: Genealogical Abstracts of RevolutionaryWar Pension Files Vol 1 A-E: abstracted by Virgil D. White.
the National Historical Publishing Company, Waynesboro, TN 1990. Submitted by Bob Datzell Member #155]

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 Another bit of evidence linking Northumberland Co to Franklin Co PA:

Franklin County Deed Bk 4, pg 528.  19 Apr 1786.
Thomas Elder of Buffalo Twp, Northumberland Co, PA, for 5 shillings,
land on Tuscarora Creek in Fannett Twp (Franklin Co PA]
to James McConnell of Lack, Cumberland Co, son of George McConnell,
 James Barnet and wife Catherine of Bedford Co, John Ramsey and wife Jean of same,
 Robert Ramsey, yeoman and wife Susannah of same, Joseph Stewart and wife Agnes of Cumberland,
  John McMahon and wife Rachel of Cumberland, Robert Alexander and wife Margaret of Franklin,
   and David Elder of Franklin.
 Wit: Thomas Morrow and James Elder.

Jean/Jane McConnell married 1775 John Ramsey (1742- 1812)
     who was constable of  Huntingdon County, PA.
Her sister Susannah married William Ramsey, brother of John.
William and Robert are both on the 1773 tax list, Dublin Twp, now Huntingdon County.
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Pension Transcription: Beginning at the bottom of  page 272
Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine (vol. 25, no. 4)

From PENSION (page 4)  (PA ARCHIVES)
"JOHN ELDER, aged 70, resident of Lamar Township, Centre County, personally
appeared on 29 April 1834, in Common Pleas Court, Centre County, and
made the following declaration on oath:
  That in the latter part of the summer of 1777, while living in White Deer Valley,
Northumberland (now Union) County, he entered as a volunteer with Captain John Foster's
(page 273)
company of Indians scouts or rangers, and marched to Loyalsoc Gap, Northumberland (now Lycoming) County....

Page 274:
I was born in Chester County in 1762...

Page 275: Bible record
Joshua Elder, was born .. 12 March 1793
Pegey Elder, was born...7 July 1794
James Elder was born November 22, 1795
John Elder was born, April 14, 1797
Thomas Elder was born, October  20th, 1798
  The second leaf is mutilated and part missing, with perhaps two or more
names unreadable.
Robert Elder was born November 2, 1807

Page 10 on PA ARCHIVES:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/NorthumberlandBiblePg10.jpg

Page 11 on PA ARCHIVES
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/NorthumberlandBiblePg11.jpg

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"24 October 1839, before George Liggett, Justice of the Peace of Holmes County, Ohio,
Margaret Thompson desposed on oath that she is the daughter of John and Mary Elder
and the eldest child; she was born 7 July 1794, and that she had two sisters and five brothers:
Mary, who married John Wilson; Ann, who married Geo. Walters;
James, John, Thomas, William, and Robert.  Her father died in January 1835, at Salona, Centre county,
and she well remembers John (sic) Morrison, a Presbyterian minister of Buffaloe Valley, Pennsylvania,
whom she often heard her Father and Mother speak of as the Minister who joined them in marriage."

Page 276:  ...23 April 1852, before D.W. Moore, Justice of the peace in
Clearfield county, James Elder, Resident of Bell Township, Clearfied county,
deposed on oath that he is a son of Mary Elder who applied for a pension under
the Act of 7 June 1838...
(end)
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Nancy's PA ARCHIVES - Northumberland Pension notes for John Elder
at
http://www.footnote.com/page/2683_john_elder_17621835_of_chester

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References in D.A.R. library catalog:
http://www.dar.org

Title:  An all-name index to Herbert C. Bell's History of
Northumberland County, Pennsylvania / prepared by Jack L. Pensyl and
the staff of the Charlotte Darrah Walter Genealogical Library
Author:  Pensyl, Jack L.
Imprint: Sunbury, PA : Northumberland County Historical Society,
1997.
Physical Description: 190 p. ; 29 cm.
Accession number: A#150031
Subject:  Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania - Biography - Indexes.
Subject:  Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania - Genealogy - Indexes
Where to find this item:
 Library Shelf Location
 DAR Library States & Regions Col
        PENN COUNTIES
        NORTHUM- BERLAND
        HIS-INDEX
           c.1 Available

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Title:  Annals of Buffalo Valley, Pennsylvania, 1755-1855 / collated
by John Blair Linn.
Author:  Linn, John Blair.
Imprint: New Orlean : Polyanthos, 1975.
Physical Description: 620 p. : map ; 22 cm.
Note: Index.
Note: Orig. pub. : 1877.
Note: Copy 2 A#22845 filed with Duplicate Books
Subject:  Snyder Co., Pennsylvania - History.
Subject:  Union Co., Pennsylvania - History.
Subject:  Buffalo Valley, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania - History.
Subject:  Buffalo VAlley, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania -
Genealogy.
Library Shelf Location
 DAR Library States & Regions Col
         PENN COUNTIES NORTHUMBE-LIN c.1
         Avail

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Title:  Every-name index to The Genealogical and biographical annals
of Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania / by Barbara A. Riegel and Carl
R. Riegel
Author:  Riegel, Carl R.
Author: Riegel, Barbara A.
Imprint: Sunbury, PA : Northumberland County Historical Society,
1985.
Physical Description: 201 p. ; 29 cm.
Accession number: A#117044
Subject:  Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania - Genealogy - Indexes.
Subject:  Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania - Biography - Indexes.
Library Shelf Location Call Number Item Status
 DAR Library States & Regions Col
PENN COUNTIES
 NORTHUM- BERLAND
GEN-INDEX c.1
Available

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ELDER rootsweb Query:
at
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elder/1367/mb.ashx
by Jeff Griffith
 >Thomas Benton Elder was my great grandfather.
 >He was born in Illinois in about 1849, son of Cornelius Dempsey Elder.
Thomas married Eliza (Lida) M. Lanning, born in New York about 1849, daughter of Martin Lanning.
Thomas appears to have spent most of his life as a farmer in Delaware Co., Iowa, and he died in the Spokane
area of Washington in about 1923.
Thomas had four children that survived into adulthood.
Lysle, Clyde, Edna, and Fern.
Merle Edna Elder was my grandmother.
 She died in Los Angeles County in 1951.
All I have on this family are federal and state census records and
some family lore. I am interested in finding other descendents of
this family group who may also have information to share, especially family lore.
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Gary Morrison's webpage:
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~morrgary/families/morrison/wp_morr_gen5.html#272

272. Robert Elder, Sr., born Abt. 1769 in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania;
died November 30, 1835 in Jackson County, Ohio. He was the son of 544. Thomas Elder.
He married 273. Mary A. Dempsey 1789 in Pennsylvania.
273. Mary A. Dempsey, born June 28, 1775 in Buffaloe Township, Northumberland County, Pennsylvania;
died July 25, 1867 in Knoxville, Orange Township, Knox County, Illinois.
She was the daughter of 546. Cornelius Dempsey I and 547. Anne Iddings.
Children of Robert Elder and Mary Dempsey are:   
  i.  Mary R. Elder, born Abt. 1789 in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania;
died October 20, 1842 in Jackson County, Ohio; married Nicholas Anthony Abt. 1808 in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania;
born February 05, 1786 in Hopewell Township, Hunterdon County, New Jersey; died June 1864 in Rawles Township, Mills County, Iowa.  
  ii.  Anna D. Elder, born Abt. 1792 in East Buffaloe Township, Notthumberland Co., Pennsylvania;
died April 04, 1874 in Milo Township, Delaware County, Iowa; married John Garret Shreck Aft. 1811;
born Abt. 1789 in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania; died June 13, 1857 in Milo Township, Delaware County, Iowa.  
  iii.  Isabel Elder, born 1796 in Pennsylvania; died Aft. 1880 in Jackson County, Ohio;
married Daniel Exline May 03, 1814 in Ross County, Ohio; born Unknown; died Unknown.  
  136  iv.  Robert Elder, Jr., born Abt. 1807 in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania; died Aft. 1880;
married Rachel McKinnis Bef. 1828 in Jackson County, Ohio.  
  v.  Lydia Elder, born Abt. 1809; died Unknown; married Benjamin Stevens November 24, 1831 in Jackson County, Ohio;
born Unknown; died Unknown.  
  vi.  Nancy Ann Elder, born September 22, 1814 in Ohio; died 1891 in Knoxville, Knox County, Illinois;
married Elkanah Moore April 18, 1844 in Knox County, Illinois; born January 18, 1812 in Kentucky;
died March 24, 1890 in Knoxville, Knox County, Illinois.  
  vii.  Cornelius Dempsey Elder, Sr., born March 28, 1816 in Jackson County, Ohio;
died February 11, 1887 in Leavenworth County, Kansas; married Sarah Hueston May 19, 1842 in Jackson County, Ohio;
born January 02, 1824 in Ohio; died January 17, 1892 in Leavenworth County, Kansas.  
  viii.  Sarah Elder, born Abt. 1819; died 1858; married Zachariah Stevens November 28, 1839 in Jackson County, Ohio;
born December 21, 1815 in Ohio; died February 25, 1884 in Vinton County, Ohio.  
  ix.  Thomas Elder, born Unknown; died Unknown.  
  x.  Elizabeth Elder, born Unknown; died Unknown; married Eli Westfall; born Unknown; died Unknown.  
  xi.  Jane Elder, born Unknown; died Unknown; married Robert Phillips March 21, 1830 in Jackson County, Ohio; born Unknown; died Unknown.  
  xii.  Margaret Elder, born Unknown; died Unknown; married James Anderson; born Unknown; died Unknown.  

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 FINDAGRAVE for  Rev. War Soldier, JOHN ELDER (1762-1835)
  Photo of marker
at
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=55684264

JOHN ELDER
Birth:     1762
Death:     Jan. 19, 1835
Served under Captains John Foster and William Clark
Family links:
Spouse:
       Mary Dougherty Elder (1766 - 1848)
Children:
  James Elder (1795 - 1865)*
  John Elder (1797 - 1847)*
  Mary Elder Wilson (1805 - 1875)*

Inscription: 72y
Note: birth year estimated from age at death
Burial: Methodist Episcopal Cemetery, Salona, Clinton County, Pennsylvania, USA

Created by: ChrisB
Record added: Jul 31, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 55684264

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