WELCOME

Welcome to the 14th issue of the quarterly online newsletter supplement to "Self Portraits: The Self Family NetLetter," the Website dedicated to Self family research at http://www.selfroots.com

You are receiving this newsletter because you were kind enough to join "Self Seekers: The Self Family Association." We appreciate all of your contributions, large and small, and we hope you will continue to support our page, our surname list, and this newsletter.

...it means that you probably read the January 2001 issue as well. In it, we asked if anyone had information on Self ancestors who were in trouble with the law. We also asked for input on how you handle adopted or foster children in your gedcoms. We think these topics would make for interesting articles--but we've received only one reply concerning adoption. Please send us your ideas--we really would like to know, and we believe that other cousins--and eventually the general visiting public--would find stories and opinions to be good reading as well!

In the meantime, we are proud to be a very large repository of Self information. With three domains, a second Webpage at RootsWeb, a surname forum and a suite of cluster pages at RootsWeb (see the link on "Self Portraits"), a Listserv, a Collaboration Surname list on the LDS "Family Search" site, a site on "My Family.com," well over 5,000 pages of connected and unconnected Self lines, and over 1150 valid e-mail correspondents willing to share information, we are well able to help you with your family research. We are also the Surname Resource Center (SRC) for the surnames of Self, Selfe, and Selph. We also host SelfSite at RootsWeb, an extension of Self Portraits containing our Census pages as well as state-by-state and county-by-county "loose ends," Selfs presently unconnected to any of the major branches. Family Record Online enumerates families presented on our Self Family of the Week page. And each time a new "Self Seekers" newsletter is released, we upload the one for the same month from the past year to our public page for all cousins to enjoy.

ANNOUNCEMENTS

We would like to have your gedcom so that we can add your information to our database. With your permission, we will also list and distribute your gedcom on request (but only with your permission). Please send us gedcoms so that we can start a library that will help others. If you've already submitted one, kindly re-send so that we will have the latest information. We would appreciate being kept informed of new family members as well as other changes.

If you haven't joined our Self Surname Mailing List yet, please subscribe. Instructions will be found on the main page of our Website. Note that we also host the Swindle, Eden, Edens, Cease, Breeze, Brezee, and Salazar Surname Lists as well as listservs for Erath County, TX., King County, TX., Bossier Parish, LA., Murray County, GA., Grayson County, TX., and Clay County, NC. In addition, we host the King County, TX, Murray County, GA, and Clay County, NC USGenWeb sites. Our three county sites join "Self Portraits" in featuring a handy search engine for locating topics discussed in previous messages posted to their corresponding listserv--please click on the button directly beneath the instructions for joining the listserv on the main page of each site.

Membership fees remain the same in 2001: Regular Member, $12 and Charter Member, $25. If you are a Patron Member, your initial contribution is gratefully acknowledged and good for the lifetime of the "Self Seekers" association. We would appreciate payment of these fees before the end of April--we may not be able to keep you on our list after that time.

Remember the July 1998 issue? Remember all the wonderful photographs, articles, and genealogy? We can't do it without your help. PLEASE contribute something. Photographs, articles, family trees, and reunion recaps will be gratefully received and enjoyed by everyone.

Our work at Selfroots consists of four basic tasks: E-mail, ListServ administration, WebSite creation and maintenance, and information harvesting. E-mail is perhaps the most important activity. Information harvesting is definitely the most time-consuming chore. And while the ListServ and the Web page sometimes involve intensive work for a few moments, they're really the by-products of the other two jobs.

E-MAIL

That we consider e-mail to be the most important of all our tasks should come as no surprise: we've written quite a bit on this topic in previous newsletters. E-mail is our lifeline, the link between our cousins and ourSelfs. We have well over 1,100 cousin correspondents, and we've written to several hundred more Selfs whose addresses have since become invalid. Sometimes it's overwhelming to think about the many nice people we've met--some of whom have become lifelong friends--and most of whom we will never see face-to-face. Through the miracle of the Internet, we can send and receive messages instantaneously, or at least in a much shorter time and with fewer problems than snail mail channels would entail. E-mail is also the most satisfying activity because it involves human contact. We derive as much happiness just from knowing you as we do from the mutual exchange of data.

LISTSERVS

People often post their thoughts and information to a public forum such as a ListServ or Message Board in hopes of inviting correspondence from other researchers. We administer 17 RootsWeb-based ListServs, 14 of which are dedicated to genealogy. We also oversee the GenConnect Boards (for queries, wills, obituaries, etc.) that accompany most of them.

The ListServs vary greatly in the number of subscribers and the amount of traffic that flows through them. The Self List is the largest Surname ListServ that we host. It currently has 280 members, but it's usually very quiet. This may be because the majority of subscribers are long-time Self researchers who have traded information and ideas among themSelfs for so many years that the novelty and excitement have worn off. If you're a member of the Self List, please don't forget that there are always new subscribers who join because they hope to learn something from you. A concept that seems old to you may be just the lead that inspires a novice researcher. If you have nothing new to add, simply posting your ancestry from time to time would benefit newcomers. When a cousin writes to us for the first time, we try to identify their general Self line and offer them a list of closely-related researchers known to us. But we may miss somebody--or you may have new information unknown to us--possibly on a line that's not your own. And sometimes we simply can't place the newcomer's ancestor and really need your help. It may be worth the space to repeat part of our "Welcome" here since you probably subscribed to the Self List a long time ago-- [indent] New people subscribe every day, and they will benefit greatly if you will post your ancestry on the list at [email protected] at regular intervals. Don't worry about sounding repetitive--your information will be new to many listmembers. Please feel free also to post anything else that you feel is relevant. Names, dates, Census records, anecdotes, history, etc. are always appreciated. [end indent]

The administration of a ListServ is a bit more complex than it may seem. Those who inquire about starting one are often told that the software does most of the work while the host just sits back and watches the messages go by. That's not entirely true. Many of the messages that the administrator sees aren't ever posted to the list. They're "bounces" from non-members or from those whose e-mail addresses have become invalid or whose mailbox is full. The administrator then has to invite non-subscribers to subscribe and inform members that they need to update their addresses. Often, the host will post the message for the invalid subscriber and, if requested to do so, unsub and resub for members who have forgotten how the process works. The list administrator also receives reports from RootsWeb about upcoming downtime and any Spamming attempts trapped by its software filters. In addition to regular administrative chores, we like to send out personalized "welcome messages" to new subscribers, and we keep a record in Microsoft Access of listmembers belonging to all our ListServs. This master record is updated several times a day.

One of the least pleasant administrative jobs is that of moderator. Some hosts prefer to moderate their lists as a matter of course so that they can "pre-approve" every message that is sent to the list. We believe that moderation is needed only in extreme cases, such as in a "flame war" that could hurt someone's feelings or prompt members to unsubscribe. This kind of situation is best handled off-list, and moderation is usually not necessary. Should someone be continually rude or disruptive or bombard the list with sales propaganda, that person can be placed on a "reject" list. We dislike censorship and would only use this feature in extreme cases. It's a discretionary measure that allows the host to fulfill his primary role as facilitator of a list set up to exchange information rather than threats, insults, off-topic subjects, or advertising. Freedom of speech isn't really an issue here. The parties involved are urged to continue their discussion in private e-mail.

Requiring people to become subscribers to a ListServ before they can post is also not intended as a censorship tool. Actually, it's a built-in feature of the RootsWeb software. It allows the administrator to keep track of the membership. A person can be unsubbed by the host on request or when he or she has e-mail problems that cause messages to "bounce." Requiring subscription is also a way to prevent spamming by unscrupulous business people. However, unlike many administrators, we never close our archives. Anyone--subscriber or not--is free to browse the archives of the Self ListServ. The archives include the original messages posted to MAISER before the migration to RootsWeb as well as the very latest postings. The steps for accessing our archives are:

1. Go to https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/ (This link is available on the main page of "Self Portraits"--the last item in the section entitled "Self Mailing Lists") 2. Enter the word SELF in the cgi box "Name of List" and press "Submit Query" 3. Select a year 4. Enter a word or phrase in the cgi box "Query" (It's a good idea to enter a word other than "Self" unless you want to browse hundreds of messages) and press "Search" 5. Under each message are blue links which control how much of the message you will see. You can choose, for instance, to view each message in its entirety, or quickly determine the sender or the subject--along with other choices Again, you do NOT have to belong to the Self List (or any of our ListServs) to view past postings--only to post new messages to the list.

WEBSITES

While ListServs can be stand-alone entities, most of them complement a major Website which may, in turn, have satellite sites. The Self List is intended to accompany our main "Self Portraits" site and its expanded offerings on RootsWeb [see below] Creating a genealogy Website can be fun. We've already discussed in a previous newsletter what elements--both stylistic and informational--might go into such pages . Depending on the format and the features, the birth of a Website can be a long and intensive endeavor. But once the site is uploaded, maintenance is fairly easy. We add new features and new sub-pages occasionally; we add new queries, photographs, and links; we remove elements which are costly, inefficient, work poorly, load slowly, or take up too much disk space. We request permission to reprint articles and obituaries from the original publisher. We also check for broken links--not really as often as we should--and we welcome and act on reports of these bad pointers from both cousins and the FreeBots that roam the Web.

HARVESTING

Gathering information from various sources and assimilating it into our files is by far the most time-consuming part of our job. It's also the part that allows us to help you with your research and direct you towards correspondence with others who share your Self ancestry.

It would be a perfect world if we could just sit back and wait for information to come to us. In fact, many of you have allowed us to do just that. You've submitted gedcoms or reports to us outlining your Self descent. Many of you have reviewed the entries on the "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends" sections of "SelfSite at RootsWeb" and helped us place "orphan" Selfs in their proper trees. Some exceptional contributors have gone out and found exciting new online genealogies or databases and shared the URLs with us. We can never express our gratitude too often. Every single Self that we can add to our extensive files is one more key to a door that was previously locked--one more mystery solved.

A great deal of our information comes from harvesting sources on the Web. These sources include RootsWeb, Ancestry, Gendex, FamilyTreeMaker, the LDS "FamilySearch" Website, and the SSDI among others. We examine EVERY entry in both major sources and personal Web pages. To avoid duplicating our efforts with each visit, we keep an entire list of identifying elements such as submitter or surname of family researched (often Self is an allied rather than primary surname in a given presentation). Of course, these must be re-checked at some point in case new data has been added--and sadly, we sometimes find that a bookmarked site has disappeared since our last visit. All of the major sites are browsed at least once a year. Every piece of new information, whether just a single vital statistic or a 50-page gedcom, is assimilated into our Microsoft Word documents--nothing, however, is to be taken as gospel--it is just information, right or wrong, and subject to proof and change.

Each online submitter with a valid e-mail address receives an invitation to visit "Self Portraits." But while quite a few of them may come to our sites, most don't contact us. The usual reason is that there are only a few Selfs in their gedcom and our surname is not their primary research interest. Also, many of the addresses--even those attached to huge gedcoms--are invalid and the invitation never reaches the researcher. If a submitter does write to us, he or she then becomes a resource person in our files. As an aside, it's unfortunate that most of the submitters in the LDS offerings have only a snail address. We've been asked many times if we conduct any correspondence via snail mail. The answer, with rare exceptions, is "no"--it's too slow and too costly a venture for two people on a limited income.

One of our current projects involves working the RootsWeb databases of vital records for California and Texas. We copied all the Selfs in them to Microsoft Word tables and we're now trying to match these entries up with items gleaned from cousin submissions, online gedcoms, the Census, and the SSDI. This is a laborious task, but we've been able to identify many Selfs who were born in other states and migrated to the Southwest; and we can now make more sense of SSDI and Census records which give only a first name (just try to find out who "John Self" is) or, even worse, middle names and nicknames.

SUMMARY

We get a lot of e-mail. Except for the SPAM that always plagues the hosts of major Websites, we enjoy it. It's fun to get to know our cousins and rewarding to see them sharing information on our ListServs. We spend a lot of time replying to friendly messages and making sure that our ListServs provide a pleasant atmosphere conducive to research and discovery. We also try to keep our Websites current. We post new queries, photos, articles, etc. in a timely manner and announce these new items to the Self List. Cousin gedcoms are gratefully received and assimilated into our own records. And in our "spare time," we keep searching the Web for new tidbits. We take our commitment to you very seriously and try to utilize our time and your monetary contributions in the most productive way possible. We're always busy working for our Selfs.

Almost every "Self Seeker" is familiar with our online publications. But in case there are one or two you haven't visited, here's a basic history and description of our offerings. You might also want to copy this article to send to Self cousins who are not members of our Self Family Association, especially those new to online genealogy. Please read this article even if you're very familiar with our sites--there's background information which may be new to you.

SELF PORTRAITS

"Self Portraits" began publication in September 1996. We attempted to design and build this WebSite with no prior knowledge of HTML or any type of Web page editor. These first efforts were composed using Netscape Navigator Gold 3.x which we continue to use today. We overcome its limitations by writing straight HTML about 50% of the time.

The original page was quite small. We still use its "golden parchment" style background on all our publications, and we haven't changed the initial historical data very much. Various graphics have come and gone, and we once had a working counter (in addition to the detailed one from WebSideStory) until the vendor disappeared. The original musical selection, "Southern Son," was written specifically for this endeavor and has now been replaced with "1848 Music Box."* The first picture featured on the main page was that of the family of George Washington Self, Tim's great-grandfather. It was hand-scanned from a large photo given to Tim by his late aunt Ellie in Texas and its pieces were "stitched" together into its current .jpg format. The "Selfe" coat of arms that replaced it was sent to us by Cousin Angela, a former "Self Seekers" member, who found it as a free graphic on a heraldry Website.

We first conceived of "Self Portraits" as a home base on the Web for all Self descendants. We also hoped that these cousins would provide us with genealogical information. This was a quick, easy and low-cost way to contact our cousins compared to the laborious snail mail, phone calls, and word-of-mouth connections that preceded the advent of genealogy on the Internet. We were so excited when someone actually found our site and wrote to us.

Bit by bit, "Self Portraits" has evolved. Over the years we've added several popular sub-pages. The "Find YourSelf" query pages were among the first to be brought online. Because it's uploaded, via security password, to our primary Server at Inland Internet in Sun City, CA., we have maintained control over this sub-page. Also, we've asked that all replies be directed to "Webmaster" [us] so that we can also benefit from the information offered between cousins. About two years ago, RootsWeb designed "GenConnect" Boards for all its listed surnames. Cousins can post to these Boards without having to write to us first. Our Self Query Board at RootsWeb has become a valuable complement to "Find YourSelf." When cousins write to us in search of their Self ancestry, we assess their needs and direct them to the best place to post their query. There are differences: "Find YourSelf" is frequented by long-time Self researchers who comb through the queries every so often. We also notify all Self List subscribers of new queries posted there. The "GenConnect" Query Board, on the other hand, enjoys a wider audience. Very often, we advise new cousins to post a query in both places so that they have every chance of making contact with someone who can help them. It's our policy to write to any new cousin who posts to the "GenConnect" Board so that we can get to know them--and in many cases, we're able to send them a tentative lineage and/or put them in contact with close cousins right away. Finally, we've been asked why we don't remove older (perhaps answered) queries from "Find YourSelf." The reason is that while the initial posting cousins may have received replies to the queries, new people may visit, view those queries, and offer information or ask to be put in touch with the people who posted in the first place.

The "Family Album" is another heavily-viewed set of sub-pages. Originally we posted photographs of "Selfs of Today" as well as those of "Selfs of Yesterday." Our decision to omit pictures of modern-day cousins was based on considerations of space. Although we've increased the costly space allocation on our primary Server, we still have to conserve. All photos we receive are reduced, if possible, to a small but clear size that is suitable for display on the Web.

Two of our sub-pages are devoted to links. "Link YourSelf" has links to USGenWeb County pages, cousin homepages, general genealogy pages, and a few of our favorite sites. The links are placed there with permission from the Webmaster(s) of each site. If you have a Website of any kind--not necessarily dealing with genealogy--please send us the URL so that we can link to it. We know our cousins would love to know more about you, your family, and your interests. "S.O.S." or "Self Online Searches" is a quick way to get to your favorite search engine without actually leaving our site.

Each weekend we feature a different "Self Family of the Week." You can get to this sub-page from the main page of "Self Portraits." There are also two pages which list the previous featured families. All of these entries are consolidated on our "Self Family Record" site [see below] At present, we are only featuring families that are--using the "best evidence" principle--almost certainly descended from Olde Robert Selfe.

"Help YourSelf" lists publications by and about Selfs. Most of the entries were collected and annotated by Cousin David. Please contact him if you're interested in knowing more about them. We do offer some files for distribution via e-mail attachment, and we also have a stylized map of the Northern Neck of Virginia available by snail-mail. The "Self Revelations" pages contain articles, stories, and poems submitted by our Self cousins and reprints (by permission) from other publications. Once again, we'd like to ask you for material. You don't have to be a professional writer--we'll even edit your work for grammar and spelling if you like. But please, send us something. "Self Revelations" is one of our most popular features, and we announce new additions to the Self List as they're added.

One cousin asked if he could send us some cemetery transcriptions. We created a "Cemetery" sub-page for him that still has only the material he sent us. If you've visited the graves of your ancestors recently--or any cemetery where Selfs have been laid to rest--please help out with a few transcriptions of your own. This page is languishing when it could be an important part of Self research.

Other features on "Self Portraits" are sections with links to the "Self Seekers" application page, an awards page, an Amazon.com Bookstore, the searchable archives of the Self ListServ, and our other Self Websites. Unfortunately, we have been forced to eliminate the GuestBook because of abuse.

And, if you didn't notice, we both love roses a whole lot...

SELFSITE AT ROOTSWEB

Many cousins have written to say that they couldn't find their ancestors on "Self Portraits." Up until a year and a half ago, that was always true. Once again, space limitations prevented us from uploading actual data to our Server. "SelfSite at RootsWeb" is a partial answer to that dilemma. Before its merger with Ancestry, RootsWeb offered a great deal of free space to high-level sponsors. Your generosity allowed us to become sponsors and made "SelfSite" possible. Now, Ancestry is honoring the commitment that RootsWeb made to existing sponsor sites, allowing us to retain our sites free of charge.

"SelfSite" consists of three main sections: Census/Soundex, Loose Ends, and Dead Ends.

The Census/Soundex portion contains tables with Self information extracted from the Census and Soundex for selected years and from various states. We are indebted to cousins for the transcription of these records, and we would love to have more of them. If you have time and want to do a project in your geographic area of interest, please copy the Self family listings from the Census or Soundex and send them to us at P.O. Box 3282, Quail Valley, CA 92587. We have no Census records at all from the UK, and they would be most especially welcomed.

The "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends" are an attempt to share some of the data we have in our files with all visitors to "SelfSite." "Loose Ends" are individuals or family units whose Self ancestry is unknown to us. In truth, there are no Self lines in the United States which are unquestionably traced back to Olde Robert Selfe--although some lines have such good evidence that we feel justified in linking them together, reserving the right to change our minds in the future. These Selfs are not included in the "Loose Ends" even though they have yet to have totally proven descent. In many cases, we can't identify the "Loose Ends" because we don't have enough clues. For example, the Census is quite inaccurate. Early Census takers often recorded just what they were told, including nicknames, middle names, approximate ages, and mistaken or nonexistent places of birth. Add to this ornate handwriting, poor spelling, and faint, blemished microfilm copies, and it may be impossible to tell who is really represented in the records. Even worse is the Social Security Death Index. Not only are the names and dates often wrong, but for some reason, there are no middle names or initials included in the entries. Therefore, many modern-day Selfs remain a mystery to us.

"Dead Ends" are, for now, couples for whom we have no descendants. We may have a full ancestry for the Self half of the dead end duo--or we may have no forebears listed at all. But for some reason, no one has ever, to our knowledge, traced the line forward from his or her marriage. You can see that it's possible for a person to be both a "Loose End" and a "Dead End" as well.

It's become a rule of thumb on many USGenWeb county sites to present information up to and including 1920, the year of the last available Census. We have listed marriages up to 1920 also because it's highly unlikely that those couples are still alive today. But we've decided to post births only up to 1900 since there's less chance of listing living people that way. Of course, when dates are questionable, we can make mistakes (as well as making typos)--so if you know for a fact that any "Loose End" or "Dead End" Self is still living, please let us know, and we'll remove that entry. We're all waiting for the 1930 Census to be released, and when it is, we'll expand the information on "SelfSite" as well.

FAMILY RECORD

Another of our data-rich Websites is "Family Record." This site is a reiteration of the "Self Family of the Week" feature on "Self Portraits." On "Family Record" the generations are presented in a permanent and easily navigable format. Believe it or not, the first four and a half generations or so were uploaded in less than a week so that we could take quick advantage of the "free pages" offer on RootsWeb.

The caveat that accompanies "Self Family of the Week" is also applicable to "Family Record": almost all of the relationships are presented on "best evidence" alone. There are many capable and thorough researchers in our extended family. Quite a few of them have examined primary documents or worked with resources compiled by those who handled them in the past. Yet, there are still gaps and unknowns in the earliest Self lines. We can always hope that someone will find old documents, wills, or Bibles in their attics, and that their leaves will chronicle the true relationships of the 17th and 18th century Selfs in particular. But the sad truth is that either those documents never existed, or more likely were destroyed during the ravages of the Civil War or the inevitable Courthouse fires. We've become very interested in the advances in DNA technology which could offer conclusive proof of descendancy. However, paternity is still not 100% guaranteed when genetic testing is used; and this method would require knowing where our ancestors are buried as well as developing moral and ethical means of extracting their DNA.

SELF SEEKERS NEWSLETTER

The newsletter you're reading now began as a way to give something to our Association members in return for their generous contributions of money and moral support. The chronic problem with newsletters is that people love to read them but very few contribute articles or photos or even ideas. So, in our case, you're the recipient of whatever we can think up that is informative and hopefully entertaining.

Part of our problem is that we like to share things with everyone who visits our sites. Yet you deserve a little more than the average cousin because you've agreed to help us meet our considerable expenses for ISPs, domains, supplies, and equipment. So we've compromised by making the newsletter free for everyone once a year has passed. We do this on another of our RootsWeb "free pages."

The "Self Seekers" newsletter is only available online. We have no paper copies available. We don't distribute any newsletter copies via snail mail. We do notify each "Self Seekers" member individually when the latest issue has been uploaded.

USGENWEB--LIGHTHOUSES--DADDY--ROUTE 66

Several of our online publications are not specifically related to Self genealogy. While our Murray County, GA and Clay County, NC USGenWebSites pertain to areas where many Self descendants actually lived, we have yet to find any Selfs in King County, TX. We also know of no lighthouse keepers named Self, but it's possible that some of them had Self ancestors. In any case, lots of our cousins probably admire these graceful structures and may have visited some of them. It's a sure bet that Self descendants have travelled some part of Route 66 from Chicago to California. Finally, we have put up a one-page site dedicated to "Daddy," Barbara's father. We apologize if the URL for this site is misleading, but our "free pages" account is "selffam" so we have little choice in the matter. However, once you see her strange background, you'll know why she's so very happy to have been "adopted" by the huge, loving, extended family of Selfs!

UNPUBLISHED DOCUMENTS & FUTURE PLANS

Our Self genealogy files consist of a "Big Document," thousands of pages long, and other documents arranged by Country, State and County. They are all in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. To give you an idea of the amount of information we have, the "Big Document" is actually split into 13 files backed up onto 11 diskettes. These files contain all the Selfs that are descended from Olde Robert Selfe, best evidence. The other documents, backed up onto 15 diskettes, are fragments--mostly unidentified Selfs. We back up all our modified files each day to two sets of diskettes housed in two different locations.

If you belong to one of the major Self lines supposedly traced back to Olde Robert Selfe, we may have already extracted that line and e-mailed it to you. It's full of asterisks and notes, and it's not really well formatted. The asterisks are for our use, and it would be a major job to remove them while keeping the indentions correct. We haven't attempted to give a unique number to each individual, as some systems do, because we just have too many additions and changes each day to keep up with a project like that. We also can't keep those widows and orphans (lines, not Selfs) out of the document for the same reason.

The "Big Document" is the basis of our "Self Family of the Week" entries. Already over 50 pages have been put online at the "Self Family Record" in a format just slightly different from the original. Both the "Big Document" and the fragmented documents contain "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends."

Our plans are to keep adding to the "Family Record" and to update the "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends" as mysteries are solved and more mysteries appear. We have considered the lengthy and painstaking listing of every single "Dead End" individual (right now the "Dead Ends" are only married couples), but we're not sure how relevant this would be when taken out of context. This is something to think about for awhile.

We don't put living people on the Web; but if you need information about modern-day Selfs, we can probably put you in touch with cousins researching your line and they can send you a gedcom at their discretion. Anytime we supply a full gedcom which lists contemporary Selfs, it is with the provision that, while it may be shared within your family, it will not be posted on a Website unless permission has been obtained from the individuals listed there.

SUMMARY

In this article, we've listed all our online publications. We're trying to do our part, in our own little corner of the Web, to put actual data into Cyberspace to help with your Self research. It's our feeling that even information that may prove incorrect in the future may at least form a basis for discussion and provide a trail to follow. If you have any workable and novel ideas for Website features or any information to submit, please let us know. We're always here for you!

Maybe your ancestors used to tell stories about life in the "old days," stories you remember hearing as a child. Please tell us about them. We will even supply editing and formatting; but we'd all love to know about daily life in the Self families of old--and you may be able to help. Please contact us. And please state that your story is specifically for the newsletter.

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