Self Seekers Newsletter, v. 10, no. 3

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Volume 10, no. 3   July, 2007
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Welcome to volume 10, no. 3 of the quarterly online newsletter supplement to "Self Portraits: The Self Family NetLetter," the Website dedicated to Self family research at http://www.selfroots.com

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GOOD DAYS

Summertime is one of the existing reminders of those "Good Old Days" in the article below.  A few days--or even hours--spent in your lounge chair or hammock, enjoying the outdoors, perhaps on vacation or newly retired or just having a relaxing weekend can take away some of the stress of modern times.  We've made cars, computers, e-mail and text-messaging, and phone calls such a part of our lives today that communing with nature may seem boring and even a waste of time.  But if you close your eyes and listen to the summer sounds--or fix your gaze on a cloud or a tree--you may see and hear things that you haven't experienced since childhood (or, if you're young enough, maybe never).  Try it!  And think of your ancestors as you do.  Many of the dreams they had have become reality today.  But you can still dream of tomorrow.  Happy summer!

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THE GOOD OLD DAYS
by Barbara Peck
edited by Tim Seawolf-Self

THE GOOD OLD DAYS

Where are you now?  On vacation in a seaside resort or camping in the Desert?  Or are you sitting on your front porch balancing your laptop and a cool glass of lemonade?  What better time for a piece on "The Good Old Days" than when you have the leisure hours to think about them?  But wait!  Just WHEN were the "good old days" anyway?  You don't have to answer us--but those who do usually give us a picture of life as it was when they were children and the world seemed like a better place than it is today.  Of course, all this depends on when they were born.  For Granny that may have been the "roaring twenties," while for us it was definitely the late 1940s and early 1950s.  Tim's kids would agree on the seventies.  The oldest grandson would envision the nineties--and some of the youngest little Selfs are living them right now!

We asked our own family members what they remembered most about "the good old days."  Here are some of the answers by generation:

GREAT GRANDPARENTS:
"I remember when a soda pop cost a nickel.  You sat up on a big round stool in the Drug Store.  The 'soda jerk' (he wasn't really a jerk--he jerked the handle of the syrup and water dispensers) put a cone-shaped piece of paper in a metal holder and added some syrup.  Then he put in carbonated water and stirred it up.  Even if he didn't stir it enough, it still tasted good."

"My Dad got up every morning and cranked the car to get it started.  We were the only family on our block that owned a car."

"Everything was fun.  It was between Wars.  Kids knew that other kids, not much older than they were, had just lost their lives for this country--so the theory was to party a lot since it might happen again."

"Movies were just wonderful.  I read every movie magazine I could get my hands on.  If I could scrape up a few pennies during the week, I would go to the movies on Saturday afternoon.  I'd sit behind my brother and his girlfriend and tease them if they were holding hands or (yuck!) kissing.  Sometimes they would take me to the Amusement Park after the movie, and we'd eat hot dogs and ice cream until we had to catch the last trolley back home."

"Grandpa took me hunting and fishing as long as the weather was good.  You could pick anywhere there were woods or waters and bring home a nice meal for supper.  I was so proud when Mama cooked up my first fish.  Everyone at the table said it was the very best fish they ever ate!"

"My mother made dolls for me out of old rags during the Depression.  I made my own dollhouse out of a cardboard box and also my own doll furniture."

"Grandma's kitchen smelled so good!  And then I would go down cellar to Grandpa's workshop and smell the wood!  I think my childhood was made up of good smells."

GRANDPARENTS:
"I walked or rode my bike to school.  I was taught never to go with strangers, so I didn't, but then no one ever asked me to, either.  My bike had balloon tires, and you had to push backward on the pedals in order to stop it.  When I was nine, I got an "English" bike with skinny tires and three speeds.  I never learned how to make the speed lever do any more than I could with my feet, but the hand brakes were nice."

"We would come home from school, throw our books in the corner, and go out to play ball in the vacant lot next door.  Almost all the kids on my street were the same age, give or take a year or two, so we mostly got along okay.  I went back to my old neighborhood last year, and both my house and the vacant lot were gone.  There must be fifty families living there now in 2-bedroom condos.  I wonder if they ever hear the sound of kids playing ball when they can't sleep late at night."

"I liked to buy scary comic books at the store.  Just crossing the highway to get there was scary enough.  Mom wouldn't let me do that alone until I was at least five years old.  She told me that those magazines would give me nightmares.  They did, but I wouldn't admit it.  I gave them up when we got a TV.  I think I was seven.  I was fascinated with everything, especially the quiz shows.  I used to write to some of the stars, and some wrote back to me.  I had an ongoing correspondence with one whose name you would definitely recognize for years and finally met her in person in 1965."

"My favorite thing was recess.  We had a big, big grassy playground.  There were swings and seesaws and a big jungle gym thing that you could climb and then walk with your hands hanging onto this ladder thing--pretty advanced for that day.  There was a second playground behind the school.  It was dirt.  We played softball and dodgeball there, and hopscotch.  I could jump rope really well.  What I really hated, though, was when the boys would shuffle along and wipe out our hopscotch.  Girls had to wear skirts to school.  You could wear pants if it was really cold or rainy, but they had to be under your skirt!  I liked recess because we could wear pants for an entire half hour before we had to put our skirts back on in the girls' room."

"I had one of the very first transistor radios.  It was great, but you'd have to turn it different ways to get the various AM stations in your area.  The little triangle symbol for "Conelrad" at the end of the dial was the only thing that scared me.  I believed that the Russians would probably bomb us any day."

PARENTS:
"I remember that all the kids around me started wearing weird clothes and having strange hairstyles.  All the guys had long hair and no one called you a sissy for it.  I was pretty little, and Mom and Dad let my hair grow really long.  I had curls in the first grade."

"The music was cool.  In the seventies, Dad and I listened to the same groups.  I used to wonder what the 'generation gap' was all about because as I grew older, Dad seemed to get younger."

"I liked going to the store with my Mom.  This was about 1968 maybe.  Ten dollars bought you a lot of stuff.  Hamburger was the cheapest for a family, just 48 cents a pound for a long time.  The same price for a half gallon of milk.  A loaf of bread was a quarter, and a decent steak cost under $1 total for maybe two people.  Once I saw a show on TV that was making fun of the future.  A woman was shopping in the market, and the checker was charging her four dollars for a roast and two dollars for bread.  My Mom laughed so hard.  She said, 'When bread gets to be a dollar, that's when I quit buying it!"

"I was a 'latchkey' kid.  My parents both worked so we could have a big house in the suburbs.  I figured I might as well get my homework out of the way before they came home, but it was a hassle.  I tried to get dinner ready when I could.  I spent a lot of time making sure my younger brothers didn't get into trouble."

"When I was sixteen I got my license.  Dad let me drive our older car to school on Fridays.  When I got a job after school, I saved up and bought a car from the guy down the street.  It cost me $150, but it ran great."

TODAY'S YOUNG PEOPLE (BORN 1980 to PRESENT):

"My grandpa taught me a lot about the outdoors.  At home I read about stuff like that in books.  But he had lots of land and showed me how to hunt game birds.  He also knew about this creek.  I never figured out how fish got in there since it was only full of water after it rained and maybe for awhile in the spring.  He taught me to drive his old truck from the seventies, too.  He let me drive down to the creek.  I caught a lot of snakes on his ranch.  You had to know which were poisonous and which were not.  We looked for rocks and Indian arrowheads."

"You know how they tell you to be happy with what you have, not what you want.  I wanted this super-cool video game.  Mom was at home waiting for my little sister to be born, so we didn't have too much money.  One day after I had been pretty cranky, Dad showed me his first computer.  He got it brand new in 1985 to help write his papers in school.  It was so old that it didn't have a hard disk or even a mouse.  He said you got it to do things by typing words or certain key combinations.  Man, did my PlayStation and its old games look good to me after that!"

"I remember when my grandfather took me to a car show last year.  Some guy had an old truck that was like almost 50 years old.  It was all rusty and rotted out.  The guy was going to restore it.  Grandpa told me that his buddy's brother in high school had the same truck, but it was new then!  Amazing!  He and his buddy used to get rides home, and all the kids were jealous of them riding in a new truck."

"Mommy got sick.  Daddy said that if I did more of the chores after school he would raise my allowance from $10 to $20 a week.  I said OK.  He said I should save some of the money for when I go to city college and need to buy books and stuff.  I told him that what I could save wouldn't buy even one book.  He laughed and said, guess that was so.  He also told me that he once got a raise in his allowance, just like mine.  Only it was from 10 cents a week to 20 cents.  Yeah, right.  I think he was telling me a story my granddad told HIM."

"I used to have a lot of friends in school.  But now we don't hang out any more.  I found out that my best friend was having sex with my boyfriend and everybody knew it but me.  And then I found two of my other friends smoking dope in the bathroom.  I walked in on them, and boy were they surprised.  They told me not to tell.  But I did anyway.  I wrote an anonymous note to the gym teacher.  Hey, they could have offered me a joint, but they were too selfish, so it serves them right!"

"A few months ago, we moved into a new apartment.  It's bigger than our old one.  I share a room with one of my sisters while the other two have the other bedroom.  My parents sleep on the bed that comes out of the couch.  But there still isn't any yard to play in.  Some of my friends live in houses, but mostly they are too expensive for families with kids.  Ma says that their parents are deeply in debt, they owe everyone and have maxed out their credit cards.  Ma and Pop say they don't owe anything but the regular stuff like rent and food.  I guess that's nice.  But we do without a lot.  I would consider us very poor."

"We went to visit my grandparents in Lebanon.  It took us four hours to get through the airport, including baggage checks and passing through security.  I'm only twelve, but I was almost ashamed of my destination.  I'm Armenian, but I think the guards thought I had something to do with Al Qaeda."

ANALYSIS:

As expected, all these memories focus on childhood or adolescence, and those involved see themSelfs in many different ways.  A child today feels poor when, in reality, his family is actually doing pretty well in terms of real dollars and would have been considered comfortable in earlier times.  A child mourns an elusive video game until he realizes that earlier generations had no electronics, and often had to make do with homemade toys.  The "hot topic" in the early sixties high school was a new truck.  In today's world, popularity may revolve around illegal drugs or alcohol.  Intimacy has been degraded, and sexual transgressions are the equivalent of "taking another person to the prom" back in "our day."

Technology appears to be the one big issue that separates the generations--and more recently, successive years of new inventions.  There have been many times we've turned on a movie about World War II and wondered just how the Allies carried out their strategies with such primitive equipment as propellor airplanes and crank-up radios.  Home movies from the 1950s reveal huge television sets with tiny little screens squatting in most living rooms, spewing out live performances in black and white.  Viewing anything from the sixties is almost like attending a perpetual costume party.  How did we make do without computers, mp3 players, pdas, fuel injection, 20-speed bicycles, digital clocks, and credit cards?

Probably none of us would give up our electronic gadgets--except maybe when we're frustrated trying to learn how to use them.  But that's exactly the conclusion we've come to.  We love new things, fancy things, things that make our work faster and better, things that allow us to communicate with others and experience people, places, and ideas that were once as far away as the Moon.  What we DON'T love, though, is the complexity they inject into our lives and the steep learning curve required to get the most out of each item.  And this is true of all of the world as it is today, not just technology.  We want less crime, but we don't want more laws.  We want to be safe, but we don't want restrictions on our freedom.  We love our cars, but we resent seat belt laws, visits to the DMV, and insurance increases.  We'd like to own a nice home, or a new vehicle, but we don't want to go through the hassle of applications, being judged by strangers, and perhaps inevitable disappointment based on someone else's standards.  We love to shop, but we sure hate those long checkout lines.  And don't you wish that things cost $10 instead of $9.99 and that you didn't have to put that item back if you lacked the extra 7 pennies to pay the sales tax.

SUMMARY:

So when were "The Good Old Days"?  In our opinion, they were the days when things were less complicated and relatively hassle-free.  We associate them with childhood because those were the years when our job was to grow and learn and leave the world's problems to the grownups in our lives.  To us, at least, "The Good Old Days" equal "The Simpler Days."  If only we could enjoy our world today without having to "pay" for them--we would perhaps find the peace of our ancestors.

(NEXT: "DNA and YourSELF")

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MINOR SELF LINES
part 15
by Barbara Peck and Tim Seawolf-Self

In 2003, we presented an article on the major unconnected Self lines.  Now we'd like to concentrate on the minor lines that are still not connected to Olde Robert Selfe, even by "best evidence."  In this installment, we've included Self branches from South Carolina.  We hope to feature more small family lines in the following newsletters.

TENNESSEE

UNKNOWN SELF:  We don't know where he came from, but he lived in Bledsoe County.  He had two children, Martha E. and David.  In 1838, these children were made wards of John R. Irwin--relationship unknown--who lived in Marshall County, TN.

MARTHA JANE SELF:  She was married twice, first to Unknown Key.  They had one daughter, Josie.  Otis, Nellie, and Elmer were her children by her second husband, Green W. Williams.  Who was she?  And what happened to her descendants?

ANDREW SELPH:  Born 1845 in Crockett County, TN of TN parents.  His wife's name was Sallie, b. 1857 in TN.  They had 4 children:  Louis, William, Florence, and James.

J. J. SELPH:  J. J. Selph was born 1848 in Crockett County, TN.  He m. R. J., b. 1847, also in TN.  Their children were W. F. and Thomas.  What do the initials stand for?

ANDERSON SELPH:  His wife's name is given both as Sallie Bradshaw and Sally Jackson.  His parents may have been named Edgar P. and Florence (Brassfield) Selph.  Their son, Louis Edgar, lived to be over 100.  Their other son was named Leander.  Both were born in Crockett County, TN.
 
NOLIE SELF:  Who was Nolie Self, born Mar. 16, 1878 in DeKalb County, TN.  "Nolie" may be a nickname.  We only know of one child, Ellen, born in 1900, daughter by her husband, Columbus Payne (1874-1952).

JAMES A. SELF:  Born in Dyer County in 1850, James Self's parents were also from Tennessee, as was his wife, M. T., b. 1853.  Their son, Finis C. Self, was born in 1875.

W. H. SELF:  His wives were L. F. and M. A.  Sadly both known children died young in Dyer County.  Era Berton was only 13 months old when she passed away in 1885, and Nellie Otto lived just one month, from June to July 1897.  W. H. was born in 1852 and died in 1927.

WILLOUGHBY SELF/SELPH: Our greatest Tennessee mystery is Willoughby Self.  Although he was born in North Carolina (1810) and lived in Hot Springs County, AR at the end of his life, he married wife Mary in Gibson County, TN and lived there for quite some time--enough for us to associate his family with this location.  We have descendants for children John, Nancy, and Lemuel.  We have no further record of Mahala, Mark, Martha, Mariah, and Susan.  It's almost a given that he is descended from the general Job Self line, but who were his parents? [It's possible that this mystery may be unraveling, but we'd like to know what you think]

MARK SELF/SELPH:  Mark Self is probably related to Willoughby, above--most likely his brother since Willoughby named one of his sons Mark as well.  This Mark Self lived in Gibson County also.  He had two children by first wife, Millia Holder:  James and Lucinda.  By 1841, Millia had probably died as he married his second wife, Ann M. Hays, at that time.

AMELIA ANN SELF:  Amelia may have been a much younger sister to both Willoughby and Mark.  Her husband was William L. Brambalow.  Her children were Martha A. and Nancy E.  Martha spelled her surname Brumbalow.

JESSE E. BROWN SELF/SELPH:  It would seem that Jesse E. Brown Selph would tie in nicely with the Willoughby Self family since he lived in Dyer County, but he doesn't.  On the other hand, he was supposedly born in Jefferson County, AL in 1859 which would suggest the Isaac Self line, but that doesn't seem to be true either.  He is a big mystery himSelf!  It could be that we have him listed as just "Jesse" somewhere, making the two names difficult to reconcile.  He probably had sisters named Fannie (Selph) Sharp and Tabitha (Selph) Rawdon.  His first two children were by an unknown wife:  Frank and Mary Letty.  His last five children were by his second wife, Amanda Lou Ann Keeling:  George Washington, Myrtle Fannie, Bessie Mae, Albert, and Hollis.  We have one cousin actively researching this line, but Jesse is her "brick wall."

OWENSBY H. SELF:  Born in KY and married 1839 in Lauderdale County, AL., Owensby Self lived in Giles County, TN after 1839.  His wife, Jane L. Howie, was from Abbeville District, SC.  Their children, born in Giles County, TN., were Hepsibah, Rebecca, Mary Anne, John C., and Sarah F.  The last two children didn't survive very long.  Mary Anne grew up and married.  What happened to Hepsibah and Rebecca, and what is their paternal line?

JOHN A. SELF: (1866-1927).  He m. Sarah Eveline Livingston and resided in Greene County.  Four children were in this family: Will, Bertha, Ronald, and Helen.

ROBERT SAMUEL HULL:  Who is this?  He was born in 1847 in Greene County and d. there in 1925.  His wife, Martha Matilda McAlister lived from 1848 to 1904.  They had eight children.  The third child (1875-1935) was named Thomas Self Hull.  Was it a blood relationship or a friendship that yielded the middle name "Self"?
 
JOHN P. SELF:  Nicknamed "Jack," this individual lived in Hawkins County.  He was born 1854 of TN parents.  His wife, Cidney, was born there in 1862.  Their children were: Robert Lee, William, Edward, Fannie, Mary O., Bessie, and Ruthie.

JAMES P. SELF:  This is an interesting Self.  He is said to have been born in 1856 and that his father was French.  His mother came from TN.  Or was it (more likely) the other way around.  He married Ida A. Bell and had three children, N. A., Octavie, and Angie May.

MINERVA SELF:  Minerva has been in our files for years.  All we know about her is that she married William Riley Caps in 1838, resided in Marshall County, and had children named William R. and Francis.  Yet we have never been able to place her in any Self line.

JOHN M. SELF:  The tangle of John Selfs in our files is almost overwhelming.  This John Self married Eliza J. Clark in 1829 in Maury County, TN and lived in Fayette County.  Not only do we know nothing about his heritage, but we also have never found out what happened to their children, Elizabeth H., Lucinda, William W., Eliza M., James J., and John A.

JOHN SELF:  A resident of McMinn County, John Self was born in 1822 and married in 1849 to Mary Ann McInturff, sometimes called "Nancy."  We only know about one child, gender unknown, who was born in 1849 and possibly died young.
 
SARAH JANE SELF:  Another rootless individual is Sarah Jane Self (1854 -     ) who was born in Giles County, TN but married her husband, James Paul William Daniel Luker in Panola County, TX.  Daughters Jessie Mae, Maud Irene, Jimmie Ruth, and Agnes, all born before the turn of the 20th century, are unaccounted for.

JAMES P. SELF:  He lived in Grainger County, TN.  He was born in 1830, and his wife, Martha C., was born in 1845.  They had five children as of the 1880 Census, namely Florence, Corda, Sarah, Charles, and David E.

D. H. SELPH:  D. H. Selph and his wife, Lily, lived in Rutherford County with their two children, Frank B. and E. who was 16 when he died in 1882.

THOMAS W. SELF:  Born in 1852 of TN parents, Thomas W. Self married Alice Griffin in 1872.  In the 1880 Census, the family shows up in the household of T. C. Hunter of Stewart County, relationship unknown, and with three children, Florence L., Clarence A., and Marion A.

MARY ELIZABETH SELF:  We know that Mary Elizabeth Self was born Mar. 29, 1869 in Warren County, TN and d. Jan. 21, 1945.  Her husband, Isaac Denton Payne Cantrell, was a native of DeKalb County where the family lived after marriage.  Their four children were Ora, Elisha C., John Hill, and Marjorie L.  Ora died young.
 
N. NAPOLEON SELF: This Self was born in Sullivan County in 1869 and d. 1953 in Knox County.  In between, he and wife Susan(nah) H. Carson, lived in Washington County where they had six children:  Callie Mae, Maude, Ella Kate, Charlie, Kathleen, and Evelyn. 

WILLIAM HENRY SELF:  Born in 1863 and died in 1930, he lived in Weakly County.  His wife, Marthann Darnall, was from Calloway County, KY.  They had 3 children whose names and lifespans are unknown, as well as John, Tommy, Peter Nickolas, and Richard Ray.

CHARLES H. SELF:  Also of Weakly County, Charles Self was born in 1840 and his wife, Susan J., was born in 1945.  Their three children were Robert F., Anna A., and John H.

FRANK BREMBRY SELPH:  Who was this person, born Feb. 27, 1889 in Wilson County, TN?  He m. Kathleen Penuel.

J. W. SELF:  Don't you just love initials?  Especially in the Census?  The 1880 Census for Wilson County shows J. W. Self, b. 1843 of Tennessee parents, married to E. A., b. 1848 in TN and their children E. J., J. M., W. S., J. D.  Can you tell us more than the government did?
 
MARY SELF:  Born 1822 somewhere in TN., she married William Edward Hughes of Dinwiddie County, VA and went to Livingston County, KY.  Their children were:  William (d. young), Washington, Peter, William, Isaac, and Mary Jane.

ALLEN SELF:  Born 1860.  Married Mamie Boissian.  Settled in Logan County, KY and had the following children: Willie, Ethel, Daisey, Gobel, Arthur, and Maud M.

JEFFERSON SELF:  Another transplant from somewhere in Tennessee.  Born in 1864, he went to Indian Territory by 1889, then to AR before 1900, and then back to Indian Territory.  Joseph, John, Eddie, and Fannie were born to Jefferson and his wife, Melvina.

JOHN W. SELF:  Born 1840 in TN, he was in Fort Worth, TX before 1887.  His wife was named Emily, b. in 1846.  Their 4 children were Elizabeth, James, and John, presumably born in TN and Robert, born in TX.

MARY FRANCES ("ROSE") SELF:  Wife of James Henry Woods of Pennsylvania, she was born 1835 in TN.  The family lived first in MO and then went to OK.  Their children's names were Margaret, Lewis, Charles, Cyrus, Austin, Archaelus, Shirley, James, and Willie.
 
M. JACKSON SELF:  He had children Louisa, Rosa, and Wellington by wife, Amelia, b. 1847 in NY.  He was born 1835 in TN but later went to California.

DAVID H. SELF/SELPH:  David Self (or Selph) was born 1859 in TN.  His first wife was named Nancy, and his second wife was named Nannie.  We're not sure if his son, Elbert N., was born by his first wife in TN, but we know that his two daughters by his second wife (Nina and Lola) were born in OK.

WILLIAM D. SELPH:  He also went to OK by 1900 and lived in Payne County.  But he was born in TN in 1857 and married a woman, Mary T., also from TN.  They had 2 known children, Harry and Ernest.

CARROLL SELF:  Born 1844 in TN and married to Susan Coleman, also born in TN in 1848, he was in Calloway County, KY by the age of 12.  Their children were Samuel, William, Martha, and Virginia.

WILLIAM T. SELF:  William Self was married twice.  Born in 1854 in TN, he went first to Crawford County, AR and then to Pottawatomie County, OK (Indian Territory).  By first wife, Rebecca C. Reed, he had children Charles, Henry, and Dovie.  By second wife, Martha Rosiene Criss, he had children Joseph, Daniel, Martha, Birdie, George, and Isaac.  Who were William's parents?
 
THOMAS SELF:  All we know about this Self is that he had a daughter, Cordelia (1849-1922) who married William H. Roberts and lived in Baxter County, AR.  Their child was Lois (1880-1966).

E. SELF:  More informative initials:  He was born 1814 in TN and married someone whose first name began with an M.  Child "T" was born 1839 in IL and "J. D." was born in 1860 in TX.

ELIZABETH SELF:  She m. Joseph McCorkel and had a daughter, Martha Frances, who m. Edwin Sidney Rising.

(NEXT: Minor Self Lines, part 16)


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