Self Seekers Newsletter, v.15, no.3

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  Volume 15, no. 3   July 2012
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WELCOME

Welcome to volume 15, no. 3 of the quarterly online newsletter supplement to "Self Portraits: The Self Family NetLetter," the Website dedicated to Self family research at http://www.selfroots.com

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FREE GENEALOGY

I remember when genealogy was free.  You could walk into any courthouse or town hall and ask to copy vital records, and most of the time you were granted access to them.  They were, after all, public documents sitting in dusty vaults and intended for use.  When I began doing genealogy work at age 14, the LDS Church had not yet begun their massive microfilm project, so I was able to handle the actual primary sources.  No one had their hand out to grab your wallet for the privilege of viewing the record books.  No one charged a fee at the cemetery gates.  But was genealogy really free?  Consider the gasoline it took to get to all the small, out-of-the-way locations and, in some cases, the wear and tear on your car as it went down bumpy back roads.  Consider the cost of paper, pens, typewriter ribbons, and film for your camera.  Think about the time spent driving to various destinations and the price of accommodations if you took a genealogical trip.  And when you found family, there was the cost of stamps and the long wait between letters.  Did you spend the equivalent of today's $60-$100 on your searches?  Did you find some answers as quickly as it took to press a key?  It's kind of like electricity:  in its many forms, it's free;  but you're paying for someone to channel it and process it and deliver it to your wall sockets.  Today we pay companies like RootsWeb and Ancestry and Genealogy.com to gather information, process it, and deliver it to your computer.  And then, there are the free sites like those offered by the USGenWeb and our own Self Portraits.  What if we volunteers suddenly began charging for our work?  Would it be worth your support?  This month's feature article addresses this question in the debate over the Social Security Death Index.  What do you think?  We'd really like to know!
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THE SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX:
A COMMENTARY

by Barbara Peck
edited by Tim Seawolf-Self

INTRODUCTION

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

STATEMENT OF THE PROBLEM

Once upon a time, there was a free Social Security Death Index on RootsWeb.  This database was available for as long as we can remember.  It was an invaluable tool for all genealogists.  Now it is gone.  It disappeared one morning in March.  There was no previous warning--here one day, gone the next--replaced with a message directing users to Ancestry where they will hereafter be charged for access.

Rootsweb states that the collection has been removed "due to sensitivities around the information in this database." In other words, the Social Security Death Index contains too much information.  And this information might possibly be used for identity theft.

We have heard of cases where thieves stole the social security numbers of dead children.  You can read about some of them on the Web at: htttp://arlington.wusa9.com/news/news/76183-dead-children-are-victims-identity-theft  ;
http://liarcatchers.com/blog/?p=4785  ;
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/item_YrDq2EoJ3BMA9j7Kb5DwjN;jsessionid=FDF33BE8FC3DC579F9AE02F2B2BEACC9  ;  http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/171395/283/Dead-Children-Are-Attractive-Identity-Theft-Targets  ;
and many more.  There are several interesting things to note about this kind of identity theft.  First, dead children make the best targets because anyone checking their records for fraud will find no credit or criminal history for them.  Second, most living children also fit this empty profile, so duplicate names are no big deal.  Third, the government's Master Death File, from which the Social Security Death Index is drawn, was originally created in pre-Internet days specifically to avoid this problem .  Fourth, although the Social Security Death Index is the main culprit blamed for access to social security numbers, there are many other ways to find them.  Fifth, It appears that cross-checking can prevent many attempts to steal a person's identity;  but it also seems that quite a few businesses, banks, and institutions (most especially government agencies) do not check thoroughly enough through their own files to do so.

So identity theft is a bad thing and a major problem in today's world.  But is removing the Social Security Death Index from a free status and placing it on a fee-based site the solution?  Is it, rather, a seemingly valid excuse to prevent crime while gaining additional revenue from a heavily-used database?  Or, worse, is it the rhetoric of speculation as a weapon of fear to control the use of its resource for financial gain?

MONEY

RootsWeb was a pioneer site on the early Web.  It played a major role in popularizing genealogy by making data available to the general public.  It also offered free hosting to the fledgling USGenWeb so that an introduction to American history and genealogy could be utilized by all.  But because it was from the beginning such a major undertaking, RootsWeb was always seeking funds to finance its growth and maintenance, especially with expensive equipment.  At first, while under the care of two individuals, RootsWeb rewarded donations with Web space.  Later it was sold to Myfamily.com and then merged with Ancestry, a similar site, and became a for-profit venture.  One experiment was a departure from genealogy and history into "Communities" where people could host pages dealing with wide interests such as our Lighthouses site still in existence today.   The experiment failed, but its use of "advertising banners" became standard on all RootsWeb pages, providing leads to other genealogical products while advertising for itself and for paying customers. The banners disturbed quite a few purists in the USGenWeb.  Many of them switched their pages over to other hosts in the name of free genealogy.

Ancestry, on the other hand, was always a subscription-based organization.  It made no secret of its prices for each of its collections.  Knowledge was sold to those who had the means to join and hidden from those who didn't.  Though there was often grumbling about the "sale of public records," those who benefited from Ancestry seemed to feel that the cost was worth it to maintain its Servers and develop new offerings.  With its entry into the Myfamily.com group, Ancestry became the for-profit arm of the conglomerate, and though we don't know this for sure, its funds almost certainly infused needed money into RootsWeb.

There are many players in the Internet's genealogical sphere.  Today, the largest one is owned by Myfamily.com.  The merger of RootsWeb and Ancestry has brought together millions of entries along with the money to maintain its position on the Web.  When you visit a genealogy site, you probably don't care which one it is as long as you have hope of finding your ancestors.  But as in all things, the competition among sites is very important to all concerned.  RootsWeb/Ancestry has the money to succeed, and money equals power.  We predict that combined, they will remain Number One for a very long time.

SPECULATION

Our modern world relies a great deal on speculation.  Just listen to any newscast and count how many times you hear the words "might," "may," or "could."  The word "will" is used much less because only in rare instances can the reporter state that absolutely, without a single doubt, the subject will do or be what is predicted. 

One example of speculation is the Stock Market where prices rise and fall on what might happen in business, industry, or world commodities such as oil.  If there should be unrest in the Middle East, oil wells might be destroyed. This might cause a decline in production and a resulting increase in cost. So based on this speculation, the price of oil rises ahead of time, stock in Big Oil fluctuates, and the guy at the pump suffers when nothing yet has even happened.  Some other examples:  (1) We may be experiencing global warming because of air pollution which may be caused by automobile emissions.  Therefore, we handicap cars with catalytic converters and pour additives into gasoline to avoid a situation still under study;  (2) You might get attacked by a mugger on the street.  We therefore recommend that you don't take any more evening walks.  Better yet, never leave your house;  or (3) It's possible that you might have a heart attack at some point in your life.  Thus, you need to prevent it way ahead of time by eating rabbit food and working out in the gym.  And should you have a heart attack anyway, make sure you take a zillion pills to stop it from happening again.

The primary products of speculation are fear and hope. Sadly, our world--our entire universe--is built on decay and "Murphy's Law," so hope is much less likely to be generated than fear.  Gasoline prices rise a lot faster than they fall.  Air pollution is a result of many factors other than automobile emissions.  Just look at how we've ignored Diesel smoke because of politics.  Staying in your house won't deflect a drive-by bullet, and you can get mugged in broad daylight, not just at night.  And perfectly healthy people have dropped dead suddenly.  Hope is slim, and anyone who bases their life on hope is guaranteed to be disappointed.  But fear is a wonderful tool for control.  Fear makes a great excuse for mandates we would otherwise not follow.  Fear of choking will make us buy an electric car;  fear of robbery will keep us in front of the tube;  fear of pain or death will keep us dieting and buying exercise equipment.  Fear of identity theft will wean us away from the free Social Security Death Index at RootsWeb and force us to subscribe to the for-profit database on Ancestry.

IDENTITY THEFT

Once in awhile, something gets by us:  something we didn't foresee, something we didn't plan for, some loophole, something we should have known but didn't.  Whatever the problem and its outcome, we rush to find someone to blame for not having used the tool of speculation to construct this scenario.  We also hasten to put laws and restrictions into place in hopes that it won't happen a second time.  This is called "The Barn Door Syndrome."  Identity theft is a crime that escaped foresight.  Dazzled by the technology of computers, cell phones, and credit cards, we overlooked the fact that all these good things could also be used for evil.

Laws and restrictions are forms of "babysitting," and babysitting is one way to address speculation with an "all-or-nothing" approach.  Not everyone can multi-task;  therefore a person talking on a cell phone might be distracted and cause an accident;  so we've now enacted laws against talking on cell phones while driving.  Not all cell phone users cause automobile accidents--but they might!--so everyone is punished.  Similarly, not everyone using the Social Security Death Index on RootsWeb is going to steal the identities of dead people--but they might!--so the database is gone.

It makes me laugh now to see how ridiculous the online "precautions" have become.  It seems silly to replace the names of people alive today with the word "Living."  A name is just that:  a moniker shared with perhaps hundreds of other people.  Originally, the removal of these names was intended to protect the living people from identity theft.  But there is really no difference between a living John Doe and a dead one.  If the only thing given out for living people is a name, then the deceased have always had more information attached.  A birthdate still doesn't guarantee that a thief is stealing an identity because there is no street address, telephone number, credit card number, or social security number listed.  When you stop to consider all this, the Social Security Death Index--minus responsible checking--has been more dangerous than living names all along.  And names, addresses, and phone numbers have always been public knowledge in the telephone book unless one pays to have this information unlisted!  Masking names or charging for them on any online genealogical site makes no sense when you can find the same thing in Switchboard or in newspaper obituary columns.

Laws and rules will never be enough to stop criminal activity.  The law-abiding citizens are always the ones to be controlled by the fear of fines or prison.  The "bad guys" simply ignore the law.  A perfect example is the issue of gun control.  If all firearms were confiscated from good citizens, the criminals would still find a way to buy or make weapons to threaten those left defenseless by their own laws.  Taking away the free Social Security Death Index inconveniences serious genealogists.  The identity thieves will just find another way around the problem.  What, for instance, is to stop them from subscribing to the database at Ancestry?  Will there be a background check and 15-day waiting period to activate a subscription? And then what?  Fraud may be a crime, but will it damage the dead person's credit rating?

PROPOSED SOLUTIONS

Probably the most reasonable solution I've heard is simply to remove the Social Security number from the death entries.  The free database we now use, GenealogyBank, has opted for this method, and it works well.  Very few of us ever search the Index by Social Security number.  Most people have never memorized their own number let alone those of family and friends.  According to Ancestry researchers can "find names, birth and death dates, and locations for your ancestors." There is no mention of Social Security numbers. Although we have not seen the new Ancestry fee-based index, we've read that those numbers have also been removed for individuals who have passed away within the last ten years.

Whether or not payment is necessary to subscribe to any genealogical database is actually of little concern to the issue at hand.  There are quite a few sites that require registration to view their records, but no money is charged for access.  The reason for registration is unclear.  It is probably a way to keep track of users and/or calculate the amount of space needed for user "trees."  It's possible that names and e-mail addresses are collected and offered for sale to spammers unless there is a guarantee of privacy included on their pages.  But money is not necessary unless it is needed for site maintenance and (hopefully reasonable) salaries.  In this context, we are justified in questioning why RootsWeb turned its Social Security Death Index over to Ancestry and didn't just keep it where it's always been.

One last suggestion:  If there absolutely must be a charge for the Social Security Death Index, perhaps there could be a "free pass" for genealogists with major sites.  These sites would include large inclusive surname sites as well as county and town sites for USGenWeb and other such groups.  Or the free pass could be given for anyone who has a site on RootsWeb--in other words, people who are proven genealogists and not possible identity thieves.

OTHER SSDI SITES

The Southern California Genealogical Society and Family Research Library lists some other sites that host the Social Security Death Index in addition to Ancestry.com.

SUMMARY

The free and friendly Social Security Death Index on RootsWeb is gone.  It is now a fee-based subscription available on Ancestry, minus the social security numbers of the recently deceased.  We're fairly certain that this database was altered to insure against possible misuse of its information by identity thieves.  But why it now costs money to access remains a mystery.  There are other ways of discouraging potential criminals, and there are other alternatives to Ancestry.  Personally, we're very sorry to see that the fear generated by negative speculation has triumphed yet again.

(Next:  The Social Security Death Index)

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DEAD ENDS
part 11
"P"
by Barbara Peck and Tim Seawolf-Self

When we began "SelfSite at RootsWeb," our objective was to present as much unrelated Self data as possible in the hopes that these individuals and families would be recognized by someone out there.  Because the Selfs married into many other surnames, it's just possible that a person surfing the Web could come across a Self connection that was previously unknown to them.  We divided the entries into two groups:  "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends."  The Loose Ends are Selfs for whom we have no ready ancestry.  The Dead Ends are marriages of Self descendants for whom we are seeking descendants.  We've decided to reprint the "Dead Ends" bit by bit in this netletter to make it easier for you to go through them and to give visitors to our sites one more point of access.  Also there have been additions, deletions, and corrections.  Please check your records to see if any of these couples are in your database.  As always, information you may provide to us is for posterity.  Living people will not be put on the Web.

PAGE, Harrison and GILBERT, Cora married before 1920, probably in Jefferson County, AL
PAGE, Monroe and MOAT, Dovie married before 1920, probably in Jefferson County, AL
PAGE, Thomas and SELF, Elizabeth married 1686 in Redgrave cum Botesdale, Suffolk, England
PALMER, Isaac Waldrip and SELF, Lucinda married 17 Oct 1866 in Montgomery County, IN
PANTHER, Charlie and HECHT, Annie married before 1920, probably in MO
PARKER, Chatham and SELF, Mary married 15 Apr 1855 in Chatham County, NC
PARKER, Cleve and SELF, Bessie married about 1914, probably in Jefferson County, AL
PARKER, Edgar and KING, Grace married 18 May 1919 in Paris, TX
PARKER, Emmett and SELF, Lola married 9 Oct 1920 in Pike County, MO
PARKER, Henry Isbell and UNKNOWN, Hattie Lou married 10 May 1908 in Roanoke, TX 
PARKER, H. T. and MAYHEW, Mary Etta married 18 Dec 1890, possibly in NC
PARKER, John and SELF, Sarah married in the mid 1700s in Whippingham, Hampshire, England
PARKER, Kinchen and NEAL, Arrillia married 28 Jul 1908, probably in Nacogdoches County, TX
PARKER, Leander Holbrook and DeWITT, Laura L. married 21 Aug 1902 in Montgomery County, IL
PARKER, Lon and SIMPSON, Lola married before 1920, probably in Catoosa County, GA
PARKER, Moses and BRADLEY, Sarah married about 1890, probably in NC
PARKER, P. J. and TUNNELL, Lavora married before 1920 in Comanche County, TX
PARKER, Unknown and SELF, Mary married before 1920 in Guilford County, NC
PARKS, Archibald Himor and McCURRY, Sarah Catherine married about 1855 probably in Elbert County, GA
PARKS, Coy and UNKNOWN, Laura married before 1920 probably in Elbert County, GA   
PARKS, John C. and SELPH, Flora Ann married 6 Oct 1879 in Logan County, AR
PARKS, John Marshall and UNKNOWN, Lucy E. married about 1850 probably in Elbert County, GA
PARR, John and SELF, Lettie married 3 Dec 1811 in Person County, NC
PARRISH, Abner and SELF, Delia Margaret married about 1855 in possibly in Dickson County, TN
PARRISH, Ezekial N. and SELF, Elizabeth married 17 Feb 1844 in Dickson County, TN
PARRISH, Unknown and DUNKIN, Margaret married about 1909, probably in AL
PARRISH, William W. and BROWN, Eunice Robbie married 29 Sep 1919 in FL
PARSLEY, Samuel and SELF, Deborah married 1784 in Diss, Norfolk, England
PARVIN, Lafayette L. and PAGE, Willie Rosetta married about 1912, probably in Blount County, AL
PASLAY, J. J. and SELF, Lillie M. married 13 Aug 1905 in Pike County, AR [we also have Pike County, MO. Can anyone confirm where the marriage took place?] 
PATTERSON, Clebus and AKINS, Bertie married 15 Nov 1908 in Hall County, GA
PATTERSON, Daniel and SELF, Mary married 17 Jul 1875 in Newton County, AR
PATTERSON, James M. and SELF, Sarah married 5 Oct 1848 in Collin County, TX
PATTERSON, John W. and SELF, Mary J. married 25 Oct 1896 in Cullman County, AL
PATTERSON, J. W. and SELF, Mollie B. married before 1910 in Greene County, TN
PATTERSON, R. A. ("Bob") and SELF, Dora married 22 Dec 1901 in Collin County, TX
PATTERSON, Unknown and PARIAN, Alva married before 1920, probably in AR
PATTERSON, Warren A. and SELF, Anney M. married 21 Nov. 1897 in Cullman County, AL
PATTERSON, Willis E. and SELF, Vernetta married 8 Feb 1893 in Ralls County, MO
PATTISON, Walter Lee and KILGORE, Pearl M. married before 1920 in GA 
PAYNE, Charles M. and SELF, Vina married 23 Jan 1896 in Newton County, AR
PAYNE, D. T. and DANIEL, Georgia A. married 17 Dec 1880 in Cherokee County, GA
PAYNE, James Emmett and LITTLE, Kate married about 1908, probably in Washington County, AR
PAYNE, James L. and WATTS, Martha Letitia married about 1864, probably in TN or NC
PAYNE, J. Gibb and ENGLAND, Emma married about 1914, probably in Hall County, GA
PAYNE, Lawrence and WHITE, Lillie married before 1920, probably in GA
PAYNE, Thomas Clyde and SWIFT, Corene married about 1913, probably in Washington County, AR
PEARSON, Arthur and SELF, Hettie married 10 Mar 1900 in Jefferson County, AL
PECK, Amos and SELF, Hannah married 1796 in Ashfield, Suffolk, England
PEEPLES, Albert and PEEPLES, Sally married before 1920 in Guilford County, NC  
PEEPLES, Joel W. and SELF, Polly married 20 Oct 1819 in Guilford County, NC
PEERY, Joseph S. and SELF, Mary married Sep. 10, 1613 in Denham by Eye, Suffolk, England
PEOPLES, George and SELF, Martha married about 1881, possibly in Johnson County, AR
PENDRY, Earl and SELF, Clara B. married 27 Nov 1920 in Floyd County, IN
PENLAND, John and SELF, Rebecca married about 1870 in NC or GA--in TN by 1880
PENNELL, William S. and STORY, Catherine Jane married 25 Apr 1867 in Morgan County, IL
PENNINGTON, Forest and PETTY, Lula married about 1910, probably in NC
PENNOCK, Matthew and SELF, Mary married about 1740 in Bocking, Essex, England
PENSE, Clarence Leslie and BROWN, Lila married 22 Oct 1890, probably in Henderson County, IL or Clay County, NE
PENSE, Elmer Leroy and SCOTT, Mae married 1906, probably in Henderson County, IL or Clay County, NE
PENSE, John Eli and MERWIN, Mary Elizabeth married 22 Oct 1890, probably in Henderson County, IL or Clay County, NE 
PERKINS, C. Wilmer and SELF, Ada Beatrice married 8 Dec 1909 in LA
PETERSON, L. P. and ELLIS, Mary Ann married about 1870
PETTERSON, Jim and EVANS, Rossie married about 1916, probably in TN
PETTY, Stanford and SELF, Nancy married 12 Oct 1833 in NC
PETTY, Theodore and SELF, Jane married 4 Sep 1896 in Union County, GA
PEUYS, Richard and SELFE, Agnes married 27 Nov 1615 in Cherington, Wiltshire, England
PHILLIPS, Benjamin and SELF, Lucretia married 17 Feb 1839 in Muscogee County, GA
PHILLIPS, John and SELF, Mary married 30 Apr 1806 in Westmoreland County, VA
PHILLIPS, W. H. and SELF, Prudy J. married 12 Dec 1881
PHILLIPS, William Henry and CASEY, Amanda Jane married about 1895 in Newton County, AR 
PHILPOTT, Edward and SELF, Mary Lou married about 1903, probably in Edmonson County, KY
PICKETT, Harold V. and SELF, Pleasie Lee married 22 Apr 1917 in LA, TX or OK
PICKETT, Unknown and SELF, Ruby Pauline married about 1917, probably in AR
PIERCE, James M. and VAUGHN, Jane Louise married about 1900, probably in MO
PIERCE, Oscar and HALL, Lenora married before 1900, probably in MO
PIGG, James S. and SELF, Tamsen married 31 Dec 1871 in Wayne County, TN
PIKE, Sidney George and LYE, Beatrice Elizabeth married about 1900 in West Lavington, Wiltshire, England
PINION, Lee and SELF, Rhoda married about 1915, probably in AL
PIPES, William Obediah and McKEON, Mary married 6 Dec 1908 in Indianapolis, IN
PITTS, Oscar William and TUNNELL, Nancy Helena married 24 Dec 1905 probably in Garden Valley, TX 
PITTSENBARGER, Unknown and EADS, Amelia Ann married about 1883, possibly in Cass County, IA
PLATT, W. D. and SELF, Lizzie 12 Dec 1899 in Sabine Parish, LA
PLATTEN, John and SELF, Mary married 1736 in North Walsham, Norfolk, England
PLESANTS, William and SELF, Alice married 1683 in Redgrave cum Botesdale, Suffolk, England
POGUE, John Alexander and BRITT, Julia Ann married about 1890 in AL
POLAND, Roy Leonard and GOUGH, Alice married 10 Sep 1914, probably in Morgan County, IL
POLK, Jeffrey Duncan and PIPES, Martha Emma married 24 Dec 1896, probably in IN
POLLARD, John and SELF, Catherine married about 1775 in Denham by Eye, Suffolk, England [or 1784 in Haughley]
POLLARD, Jackson and O'BARR, Icy Dora married about 1888, probably in St. Clair County, AL
POLLARD, Pinkney D. and MERCHANT, Della married about 1914, probably in Vernon Parish, LA 
POLLARD, William and O'BARR, Missouri Florence married about 1880, probably in St. Clair County, AL
POLSTON, William Preston and THARP, Charlotte Ann married 1893, probably in KY
POPE, D. and HEARD, Ayleen Watts married about 1880
POPE, Fred and SELF, Cynthia married before 1920, probably in Greene County, TN
PORCH, William Silas and STREET, Ailsey Jane married 21 Aug 1861 in Dickson County, TN
PORTER, John F. and SELF, Caroline married 27 Aug 1852 in Cherokee County, TX
PORTER, Thomas and BRADLEY, Margaret married about 1886, probably in NC
POTTER, John and SELF, Sarah Jane married 4 Aug 1868 in GA
POWELL, Arthur and CRUMP, Lena married about 1913, probably in MS
POWERS, Marvin and BOGGS, Mary Emma married about 1912, probably in NC 
PRESLEY, T. M. and TUNNELL, Rosa M. married about 1866 in AL or TX
PRESTON, Mathew and SELF, Mary married about 1712 in Westminster, London, England
PRICE, Lige and LOVE, Nancy married about 1872, possibly in Jefferson County, AL
PRINCE, N. C. and SELF, M. B. married 21 Jul 1870 in Jefferson County, AL
PRUITT, Isaac and CARAWAY, Priscilla Jane married 24 Nov 1883, possibly in Gonzales County, TX
PUCKETT, Dave and LOGSDON, Minnie married about 1877, probably in Hart County, KY
PUCKETT, William and PAINE, Sadie married before 1920, probably in KY
PUGH, Emmett Crory and GILCREASE, Florence Elvada married 22 Oct 1919 in OK
PULLEN, Charles William and SELF, Emma Henrietta married 3 Mar 1890 in San Francisco, CA
PURCELL, John Davis and COSHOW, Elizabeth married about 1860 in Fayette County, KY
PURDY, William and TERRY, Sarah Ann married about 1815 in IN
PUTMAN, Bluford Hugh and SELF, Lucy married about 1910
PUTNAM, Elijah and SELF, Mary married about 1881 in TX


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