Self Seekers Newsletter, v.15, no.3
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Volume 15, no. 3 July 2012
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FREE GENEALOGY
I remember when genealogy was free. You could walk into any
courthouse or town hall and ask to copy vital records, and most of the
time you were granted access to them. They were, after all,
public documents sitting in dusty vaults and intended for use.
When I began doing genealogy work at age 14, the LDS Church had not yet
begun their massive microfilm project, so I was able to handle the
actual primary sources. No one had their hand out to grab your
wallet for the privilege of viewing the record books. No one
charged a fee at the cemetery gates. But was genealogy really
free? Consider the gasoline it took to get to all the small,
out-of-the-way locations and, in some cases, the wear and tear on your
car as it went down bumpy back roads. Consider the cost of paper,
pens, typewriter ribbons, and film for your camera. Think about
the time spent driving to various destinations and the price of
accommodations if you took a genealogical trip. And when you
found family, there was the cost of stamps and the long wait between
letters. Did you spend the equivalent of today's $60-$100 on your
searches? Did you find some answers as quickly as it took to
press a key? It's kind of like electricity: in its many
forms, it's free; but you're paying for someone to channel it and
process it and deliver it to your wall sockets. Today we pay
companies like RootsWeb and Ancestry and Genealogy.com to gather
information, process it, and deliver it to your computer. And
then, there are the free sites like those offered by the USGenWeb and our own Self Portraits. What if we
volunteers suddenly began charging for our work? Would it be
worth your support? This month's feature article addresses this
question in the debate over the Social Security Death Index. What
do you think? We'd really like to know!
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THE SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX:
A COMMENTARY
by Barbara Peck
edited by Tim Seawolf-Self
INTRODUCTION
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
STATEMENT
OF THE PROBLEM
Once upon a time, there was a free Social Security Death Index on
RootsWeb. This database was available for as long as we can
remember. It was an invaluable tool for all genealogists.
Now it is gone. It disappeared one morning in March. There
was no previous warning--here one day, gone the next--replaced with a
message directing users to Ancestry where they will hereafter be
charged for access.
Rootsweb states that the
collection has been removed "due to sensitivities
around the information in this database." In other words, the
Social Security Death Index contains too much information. And
this information might possibly be used for identity theft.
We have heard of cases where thieves stole the social security numbers
of dead children. You can read about some of them on the Web at: htttp://arlington.wusa9.com/news/news/76183-dead-children-are-victims-identity-theft
;
http://liarcatchers.com/blog/?p=4785
;
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/item_YrDq2EoJ3BMA9j7Kb5DwjN;jsessionid=FDF33BE8FC3DC579F9AE02F2B2BEACC9
; http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/171395/283/Dead-Children-Are-Attractive-Identity-Theft-Targets
;
and many more. There are several interesting things to note about
this kind of identity theft. First, dead children make the best
targets because anyone checking their records for fraud will find no
credit or criminal history for them. Second, most living children
also fit this empty profile, so duplicate names are no big deal.
Third, the government's Master Death File, from which the Social
Security Death Index is drawn, was originally created in pre-Internet
days specifically to avoid this problem
. Fourth, although the Social Security Death Index is the main
culprit blamed for access to social security numbers, there are many
other ways to find them. Fifth, It appears that cross-checking
can prevent many attempts to steal a person's identity; but it
also seems that quite a few businesses, banks, and institutions (most
especially government agencies) do not check thoroughly enough through
their own files to do so.
So identity theft is a bad thing and a major problem in today's
world. But is removing the Social Security Death Index from a
free status and placing it on a fee-based site the solution? Is
it, rather, a seemingly valid excuse to prevent crime while gaining
additional revenue from a heavily-used database? Or, worse, is it
the rhetoric of speculation as a weapon of fear to control the use of
its resource for financial gain?
MONEY
RootsWeb was a pioneer site on the early Web. It played a major
role in popularizing genealogy by making data available to the general
public. It also offered free hosting to the fledgling USGenWeb so
that an introduction to American history and genealogy could be
utilized by all. But because it was from the beginning such a
major undertaking, RootsWeb was always seeking funds to finance its
growth and maintenance, especially with expensive equipment. At
first, while under the care of two individuals, RootsWeb rewarded
donations with Web space. Later it was sold to Myfamily.com and
then merged with Ancestry, a similar site, and became a for-profit
venture. One experiment was a departure from genealogy and
history into "Communities" where people could host pages dealing with
wide interests such as our Lighthouses
site still in existence today. The experiment failed, but its
use of "advertising banners" became standard on all RootsWeb pages,
providing leads to other genealogical products while advertising for
itself and for paying customers. The banners disturbed quite a few
purists in the USGenWeb. Many of them switched their pages over
to other hosts in the name of free genealogy.
Ancestry, on the other hand, was always a subscription-based
organization. It made no secret of its prices for each of its
collections. Knowledge was sold to those who had the means to
join and hidden from those who didn't. Though there was often
grumbling about the "sale of public records," those who benefited from
Ancestry seemed to feel that the cost was worth it to maintain its
Servers and develop new offerings. With its entry into the
Myfamily.com group, Ancestry became the for-profit arm of the
conglomerate, and though we don't know this for sure, its funds almost
certainly infused needed money into RootsWeb.
There are many players in the Internet's genealogical sphere.
Today, the largest one is owned by Myfamily.com. The merger of
RootsWeb and Ancestry has brought together millions of entries along
with the money to maintain its position on the Web. When you
visit a genealogy site, you probably don't care which one it is as long
as you have hope of finding your ancestors. But as in all things,
the competition among sites is very important to all concerned.
RootsWeb/Ancestry has the money to succeed, and money equals
power. We predict that combined, they will remain Number One for
a very long time.
SPECULATION
Our modern world relies a great deal on speculation. Just listen
to any newscast and count how many times you hear the words "might,"
"may," or "could." The word "will" is used much less because only
in rare instances can the reporter state that absolutely, without a
single doubt, the subject will do or be what is predicted.
One example of speculation is the Stock Market where prices rise and
fall on what might happen in business, industry, or world commodities
such as oil. If there should
be unrest in the Middle East, oil wells might be destroyed. This might cause a decline in production
and a resulting increase in cost. So based on this speculation, the
price of oil rises ahead of time, stock in Big Oil fluctuates, and the
guy at the pump suffers when nothing yet has even happened. Some
other examples: (1) We may
be experiencing global warming because of air pollution which may be caused by automobile
emissions. Therefore, we handicap cars with catalytic converters
and pour additives into gasoline to avoid a situation still under
study; (2) You might
get attacked by a mugger on the street. We therefore recommend
that you don't take any more evening walks. Better yet, never
leave your house; or (3) It's possible that you might have a heart attack at some
point in your life. Thus, you need to prevent it way ahead of
time by eating rabbit food and working out in the gym. And should you have a heart attack
anyway, make sure you take a zillion pills to stop it from happening
again.
The primary products of speculation are fear and hope. Sadly, our
world--our entire universe--is built on decay and "Murphy's Law," so
hope is much less likely to be generated than fear. Gasoline
prices rise a lot faster than they fall. Air pollution is a
result of many factors other than automobile emissions. Just look
at how we've ignored Diesel smoke because of politics. Staying in
your house won't deflect a drive-by bullet, and you can get mugged in
broad daylight, not just at night. And perfectly healthy people
have dropped dead suddenly. Hope is slim, and anyone who bases
their life on hope is guaranteed to be disappointed. But fear is
a wonderful tool for control. Fear makes a great excuse for
mandates we would otherwise not follow. Fear of choking will make
us buy an electric car; fear of robbery will keep us in front of
the tube; fear of pain or death will keep us dieting and buying
exercise equipment. Fear of identity theft will wean us away from
the free Social Security Death Index at RootsWeb and force us to
subscribe to the for-profit database on Ancestry.
IDENTITY
THEFT
Once in awhile, something gets by us: something we didn't
foresee, something we didn't plan for, some loophole, something we
should have known but didn't. Whatever the problem and its
outcome, we rush to find someone to blame for not having used the tool
of speculation to construct this scenario. We also hasten to put
laws and restrictions into place in hopes that it won't happen a second
time. This is called "The Barn Door Syndrome." Identity
theft is a crime that escaped foresight. Dazzled by the
technology of computers, cell phones, and credit cards, we overlooked
the fact that all these good things could also be used for evil.
Laws and restrictions are forms of "babysitting," and babysitting is
one way to address speculation with an "all-or-nothing" approach.
Not everyone can multi-task; therefore a person talking on a cell
phone might be distracted and cause an accident; so we've now
enacted laws against talking on cell phones while driving. Not
all cell phone users cause automobile accidents--but they might!--so everyone is
punished. Similarly, not everyone using the Social Security Death
Index on RootsWeb is going to steal the identities of dead people--but
they might!--so the database
is gone.
It makes me laugh now to see how ridiculous the online "precautions"
have become. It seems silly to replace the names of people alive
today with the word "Living." A name is just that: a
moniker shared with perhaps hundreds of other people. Originally,
the removal of these names was intended to protect the living people
from identity theft. But there is really no difference between a
living John Doe and a dead one. If the only thing given out for
living people is a name, then the deceased have always had more
information attached. A birthdate still doesn't guarantee that a
thief is stealing an identity because there is no street address,
telephone number, credit card number, or social security number
listed. When you stop to consider all this, the Social Security
Death Index--minus responsible checking--has been more dangerous than
living names all along. And names, addresses, and phone numbers
have always been public knowledge in the telephone book unless one pays
to have this information unlisted! Masking names or charging for
them on any online genealogical site makes no sense when you can find
the same thing in Switchboard or in
newspaper obituary columns.
Laws and rules will never be enough to stop criminal activity.
The law-abiding citizens are always the ones to be controlled by the
fear of fines or prison. The "bad guys" simply ignore the
law. A perfect example is the issue of gun control. If all
firearms were confiscated from good citizens, the criminals would still
find a way to buy or make weapons to threaten those left defenseless by
their own laws. Taking away the free Social Security Death Index
inconveniences serious genealogists. The identity thieves will
just find another way around the problem. What, for instance, is
to stop them from subscribing to the database at Ancestry? Will
there be a background check and 15-day waiting period to activate a
subscription? And then what? Fraud may be a crime, but will it
damage the dead person's credit rating?
PROPOSED
SOLUTIONS
Probably the most reasonable solution I've heard is simply to remove
the Social Security number from the death entries. The free
database we now use, GenealogyBank,
has opted for this method, and it works well. Very few of us ever
search the Index by Social Security number. Most people have
never memorized their own number let alone those of family and
friends. According to Ancestry
researchers can "find names, birth and death dates, and locations for
your ancestors." There is no mention of Social Security numbers.
Although we have not seen the new Ancestry fee-based index, we've read
that those numbers have also been removed for individuals who have
passed away within the last ten years.
Whether or not payment is necessary to subscribe to any genealogical
database is actually of little concern to the issue at hand.
There are quite a few sites that require registration to view their
records, but no money is charged for access. The reason for
registration is unclear. It is probably a way to keep track of
users and/or calculate the amount of space needed for user
"trees." It's possible that names and e-mail addresses are
collected and offered for sale to spammers unless there is a guarantee
of privacy included on their pages. But money is not necessary
unless it is needed for site maintenance and (hopefully reasonable)
salaries. In this context, we are justified in questioning why
RootsWeb turned its Social Security Death Index over to Ancestry and
didn't just keep it where it's always been.
One last suggestion: If there absolutely must be a charge for the
Social Security Death Index, perhaps there could be a "free pass" for
genealogists with major sites. These sites would include large
inclusive surname sites as well as county and town sites for USGenWeb
and other such groups. Or the free pass could be given for anyone
who has a site on RootsWeb--in other words, people who are proven
genealogists and not possible identity thieves.
OTHER
SSDI SITES
The Southern California Genealogical Society and Family Research
Library lists
some other sites that host the Social Security Death Index in addition
to Ancestry.com.
SUMMARY
The free and friendly Social Security Death Index on RootsWeb is
gone. It is now a fee-based subscription available on Ancestry,
minus the social security numbers of the recently deceased. We're
fairly certain that this database was altered to insure against
possible misuse of its information by identity thieves. But why
it now costs money to access remains a mystery. There are other
ways of discouraging potential criminals, and there are other
alternatives to Ancestry. Personally, we're very sorry to see
that the fear generated by negative speculation has triumphed yet again.
(Next: The Social Security Death
Index)
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DEAD ENDS
part 11
"P"
by Barbara Peck and Tim Seawolf-Self
When we began "SelfSite at RootsWeb," our objective was to present as
much unrelated Self data as possible in the hopes that these
individuals and families would be recognized by someone out
there. Because the Selfs married into many other surnames, it's
just possible that a person surfing the Web could come across a Self
connection that was previously unknown to them. We divided the
entries into two groups: "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends." The
Loose Ends are Selfs for whom we have no ready ancestry. The Dead
Ends are marriages of Self descendants for whom we are seeking
descendants. We've decided to reprint the "Dead Ends" bit by bit
in this netletter to make it easier for you to go through them and to
give visitors to our sites one more point of access. Also there
have been additions, deletions, and corrections. Please check
your records to see if any of these couples are in your database.
As always, information you may provide to us is for posterity.
Living people will not be put on the Web.
PAGE, Harrison and GILBERT, Cora married before 1920, probably in
Jefferson County, AL
PAGE, Monroe and MOAT, Dovie married before 1920, probably in Jefferson
County, AL
PAGE, Thomas and SELF, Elizabeth married 1686 in Redgrave cum
Botesdale, Suffolk, England
PALMER, Isaac Waldrip and SELF, Lucinda married 17 Oct 1866 in
Montgomery County, IN
PANTHER, Charlie and HECHT, Annie married before 1920, probably in MO
PARKER, Chatham and SELF, Mary married 15 Apr 1855 in Chatham County, NC
PARKER, Cleve and SELF, Bessie married about 1914, probably in
Jefferson County, AL
PARKER, Edgar and KING, Grace married 18 May 1919 in Paris, TX
PARKER, Emmett and SELF, Lola married 9 Oct 1920 in Pike County, MO
PARKER, Henry Isbell and UNKNOWN, Hattie Lou married 10 May 1908 in
Roanoke, TX
PARKER, H. T. and MAYHEW, Mary Etta married 18 Dec 1890, possibly in NC
PARKER, John and SELF, Sarah married in the mid 1700s in Whippingham,
Hampshire, England
PARKER, Kinchen and NEAL, Arrillia married 28 Jul 1908, probably in
Nacogdoches County, TX
PARKER, Leander Holbrook and DeWITT, Laura L. married 21 Aug 1902 in
Montgomery County, IL
PARKER, Lon and SIMPSON, Lola married before 1920, probably in Catoosa
County, GA
PARKER, Moses and BRADLEY, Sarah married about 1890, probably in NC
PARKER, P. J. and TUNNELL, Lavora married before 1920 in Comanche
County, TX
PARKER, Unknown and SELF, Mary married before 1920 in Guilford County,
NC
PARKS, Archibald Himor and McCURRY, Sarah Catherine married about 1855
probably in Elbert County, GA
PARKS, Coy and UNKNOWN, Laura married before 1920 probably in Elbert
County, GA
PARKS, John C. and SELPH, Flora Ann married 6 Oct 1879 in Logan County,
AR
PARKS, John Marshall and UNKNOWN, Lucy E. married about 1850 probably
in Elbert County, GA
PARR, John and SELF, Lettie married 3 Dec 1811 in Person County, NC
PARRISH, Abner and SELF, Delia Margaret married about 1855 in possibly
in Dickson County, TN
PARRISH, Ezekial N. and SELF, Elizabeth married 17 Feb 1844 in Dickson
County, TN
PARRISH, Unknown and DUNKIN, Margaret married about 1909, probably in AL
PARRISH, William W. and BROWN, Eunice Robbie married 29 Sep 1919 in FL
PARSLEY, Samuel and SELF, Deborah married 1784 in Diss, Norfolk, England
PARVIN, Lafayette L. and PAGE, Willie Rosetta married about 1912,
probably in Blount County, AL
PASLAY, J. J. and SELF, Lillie M. married 13 Aug 1905 in Pike County,
AR [we also have Pike County, MO. Can anyone confirm where the marriage
took place?]
PATTERSON, Clebus and AKINS, Bertie married 15 Nov 1908 in Hall County,
GA
PATTERSON, Daniel and SELF, Mary married 17 Jul 1875 in Newton County,
AR
PATTERSON, James M. and SELF, Sarah married 5 Oct 1848 in Collin
County, TX
PATTERSON, John W. and SELF, Mary J. married 25 Oct 1896 in Cullman
County, AL
PATTERSON, J. W. and SELF, Mollie B. married before 1910 in Greene
County, TN
PATTERSON, R. A. ("Bob") and SELF, Dora married 22 Dec 1901 in Collin
County, TX
PATTERSON, Unknown and PARIAN, Alva married before 1920, probably in AR
PATTERSON, Warren A. and SELF, Anney M. married 21 Nov. 1897 in Cullman
County, AL
PATTERSON, Willis E. and SELF, Vernetta married 8 Feb 1893 in Ralls
County, MO
PATTISON, Walter Lee and KILGORE, Pearl M. married before 1920 in
GA
PAYNE, Charles M. and SELF, Vina married 23 Jan 1896 in Newton County,
AR
PAYNE, D. T. and DANIEL, Georgia A. married 17 Dec 1880 in Cherokee
County, GA
PAYNE, James Emmett and LITTLE, Kate married about 1908, probably in
Washington County, AR
PAYNE, James L. and WATTS, Martha Letitia married about 1864, probably
in TN or NC
PAYNE, J. Gibb and ENGLAND, Emma married about 1914, probably in Hall
County, GA
PAYNE, Lawrence and WHITE, Lillie married before 1920, probably in GA
PAYNE, Thomas Clyde and SWIFT, Corene married about 1913, probably in
Washington County, AR
PEARSON, Arthur and SELF, Hettie married 10 Mar 1900 in Jefferson
County, AL
PECK, Amos and SELF, Hannah married 1796 in Ashfield, Suffolk, England
PEEPLES, Albert and PEEPLES, Sally married before 1920 in Guilford
County, NC
PEEPLES, Joel W. and SELF, Polly married 20 Oct 1819 in Guilford
County, NC
PEERY, Joseph S. and SELF, Mary married Sep. 10, 1613 in Denham by Eye,
Suffolk, England
PEOPLES, George and SELF, Martha married about 1881, possibly in
Johnson County, AR
PENDRY, Earl and SELF, Clara B. married 27 Nov 1920 in Floyd County, IN
PENLAND, John and SELF, Rebecca married about 1870 in NC or GA--in TN
by 1880
PENNELL, William S. and STORY, Catherine Jane married 25 Apr 1867 in
Morgan County, IL
PENNINGTON, Forest and PETTY, Lula married about 1910, probably in NC
PENNOCK, Matthew and SELF, Mary married about 1740 in Bocking, Essex,
England
PENSE, Clarence Leslie and BROWN, Lila married 22 Oct 1890, probably in
Henderson County, IL or Clay County, NE
PENSE, Elmer Leroy and SCOTT, Mae married 1906, probably in Henderson
County, IL or Clay County, NE
PENSE, John Eli and MERWIN, Mary Elizabeth married 22 Oct 1890,
probably in Henderson County, IL or Clay County, NE
PERKINS, C. Wilmer and SELF, Ada Beatrice married 8 Dec 1909 in LA
PETERSON, L. P. and ELLIS, Mary Ann married about 1870
PETTERSON, Jim and EVANS, Rossie married about 1916, probably in TN
PETTY, Stanford and SELF, Nancy married 12 Oct 1833 in NC
PETTY, Theodore and SELF, Jane married 4 Sep 1896 in Union County, GA
PEUYS, Richard and SELFE, Agnes married 27 Nov 1615 in Cherington,
Wiltshire, England
PHILLIPS, Benjamin and SELF, Lucretia married 17 Feb 1839 in Muscogee
County, GA
PHILLIPS, John and SELF, Mary married 30 Apr 1806 in Westmoreland
County, VA
PHILLIPS, W. H. and SELF, Prudy J. married 12 Dec 1881
PHILLIPS, William Henry and CASEY, Amanda Jane married about 1895 in
Newton County, AR
PHILPOTT, Edward and SELF, Mary Lou married about 1903, probably in
Edmonson County, KY
PICKETT, Harold V. and SELF, Pleasie Lee married 22 Apr 1917 in LA, TX
or OK
PICKETT, Unknown and SELF, Ruby Pauline married about 1917, probably in
AR
PIERCE, James M. and VAUGHN, Jane Louise married about 1900, probably
in MO
PIERCE, Oscar and HALL, Lenora married before 1900, probably in MO
PIGG, James S. and SELF, Tamsen married 31 Dec 1871 in Wayne County, TN
PIKE, Sidney George and LYE, Beatrice Elizabeth married about 1900 in
West Lavington, Wiltshire, England
PINION, Lee and SELF, Rhoda married about 1915, probably in AL
PIPES, William Obediah and McKEON, Mary married 6 Dec 1908 in
Indianapolis, IN
PITTS, Oscar William and TUNNELL, Nancy Helena married 24 Dec 1905
probably in Garden Valley, TX
PITTSENBARGER, Unknown and EADS, Amelia Ann married about 1883,
possibly in Cass County, IA
PLATT, W. D. and SELF, Lizzie 12 Dec 1899 in Sabine Parish, LA
PLATTEN, John and SELF, Mary married 1736 in North Walsham, Norfolk,
England
PLESANTS, William and SELF, Alice married 1683 in Redgrave cum
Botesdale, Suffolk, England
POGUE, John Alexander and BRITT, Julia Ann married about 1890 in AL
POLAND, Roy Leonard and GOUGH, Alice married 10 Sep 1914, probably in
Morgan County, IL
POLK, Jeffrey Duncan and PIPES, Martha Emma married 24 Dec 1896,
probably in IN
POLLARD, John and SELF, Catherine married about 1775 in Denham by Eye,
Suffolk, England [or 1784 in Haughley]
POLLARD, Jackson and O'BARR, Icy Dora married about 1888, probably in
St. Clair County, AL
POLLARD, Pinkney D. and MERCHANT, Della married about 1914, probably in
Vernon Parish, LA
POLLARD, William and O'BARR, Missouri Florence married about 1880,
probably in St. Clair County, AL
POLSTON, William Preston and THARP, Charlotte Ann married 1893,
probably in KY
POPE, D. and HEARD, Ayleen Watts married about 1880
POPE, Fred and SELF, Cynthia married before 1920, probably in Greene
County, TN
PORCH, William Silas and STREET, Ailsey Jane married 21 Aug 1861 in
Dickson County, TN
PORTER, John F. and SELF, Caroline married 27 Aug 1852 in Cherokee
County, TX
PORTER, Thomas and BRADLEY, Margaret married about 1886, probably in NC
POTTER, John and SELF, Sarah Jane married 4 Aug 1868 in GA
POWELL, Arthur and CRUMP, Lena married about 1913, probably in MS
POWERS, Marvin and BOGGS, Mary Emma married about 1912, probably in
NC
PRESLEY, T. M. and TUNNELL, Rosa M. married about 1866 in AL or TX
PRESTON, Mathew and SELF, Mary married about 1712 in Westminster,
London, England
PRICE, Lige and LOVE, Nancy married about 1872, possibly in Jefferson
County, AL
PRINCE, N. C. and SELF, M. B. married 21 Jul 1870 in Jefferson County,
AL
PRUITT, Isaac and CARAWAY, Priscilla Jane married 24 Nov 1883, possibly
in Gonzales County, TX
PUCKETT, Dave and LOGSDON, Minnie married about 1877, probably in Hart
County, KY
PUCKETT, William and PAINE, Sadie married before 1920, probably in KY
PUGH, Emmett Crory and GILCREASE, Florence Elvada married 22 Oct 1919
in OK
PULLEN, Charles William and SELF, Emma Henrietta married 3 Mar 1890 in
San Francisco, CA
PURCELL, John Davis and COSHOW, Elizabeth married about 1860 in Fayette
County, KY
PURDY, William and TERRY, Sarah Ann married about 1815 in IN
PUTMAN, Bluford Hugh and SELF, Lucy married about 1910
PUTNAM, Elijah and SELF, Mary married about 1881 in TX
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Dead Ends "Q-R")
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