elf Seekers Newsletter, v.13, no.4

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Barbara Ann Peck
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Volume 13, no. 4 October, 2010
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WELCOME

Welcome to volume 13, no. 4 of the quarterly online newsletter supplement to "Self Portraits: The Self Family NetLetter," the Website dedicated to Self family research at http://www.selfroots.com

You are receiving this newsletter because you were kind enough to join "Self Seekers: The Self Family Association." We appreciate all of your contributions, large and small, and we hope you will continue to support our page, our surname list, and this newsletter.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SELF PORTRAITS

In September, we celebrated the 14th year of "Self Portraits." I can still remember sitting in front of my old 486 with Netscape Navigator's blank composition page staring at me. I had been a World Wide Web user for over two years by then, well versed in "Archie" and "Gopher," and the proud owner of an interet connection that charged over $50 for text-based articles that provided a "link-by-number" feature and the ability to download a 20k file in less than 2 hours. But I had never tried to create a Web site, and I had no idea what to do. Never a copy-cat, I decided not to study other established sites but to make a few guesses at what I mySelf might like to find on a surname page. Nor was I positive that I wanted to dedicate the entire site to Selfs. I had considered splitting it into two parts, one for Tim's Self (paternal) side and one for his maternal ancestors. That plan was too complicated. After working my way through a main page, queries, links, and a few empty pages meant for stories and photos that we hoped would materialize, I decided that was enough for awhile. By Christmas of 1996 we had corresponded with over 50 cousins. Our first "annual greeting" was sent out in the form of Christmas trees whose ornaments were engraved with each of their names. I couldn't foresee several more Self sites and a few USGenWeb sites thrown in for "good measure." Our experience has been both fun and frustrating, full of friends and foes, and most of all, helping to preserve Self lines not only on the Web but in individual gedcoms. Our thanks go out to everyone, from long-time researchers to novices, for helping our endeavor to grow throughout the years.
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MY COUNTRY, MY SELF?
by Barbara Peck
edited by Tim Seawolf-Self

When I worked on my first family nearly 50 years ago, there was no easy way to follow the migration of family members to various regions of the United States. I had chosen a family with roots just 75 miles away. Thanks to the tireless efforts of my father who was willing to drive a young teenager to the home sites week after week, I was able to collect data from the nearby towns. He was also willing to take me to other towns within our state, and once he took me on an out-of-state genealogy trip. I was fortunate, also, to find research by others that I could copy. Finally, I began a long project writing snail mail to many people with the family name and asking them to fill out a homemade "family tree" form that I had had copied in the Duplicating Department of my school (yes, it was the old purple-backed mimeograph type that was so unforgiving of errors). Looking back, it was just pure luck that the family chose to remain, for the most part, in New England. The Selfs, on the other hand, hardly ever stayed in one place very long.

THE SELFS

The early Selfs lived first in Virginia. We need to remember that in colonial times, the various territories did not have the same boundaries as they have today. Communities were clustered on the Eastern seaboard. Anything beyond the original 13 colonies was unknown territory, inhabited by savages whose temperament was unknown and wild animals that probably seemed almost mythical to the early settlers. Looking at the map of the continental United States as it exists today, it seems obvious that this land was destined to become one country. But the earliest Selfs and their neighbors had no idea how much territory lay beyond their settlements. It wasn't long before their curiosity prompted them to find out. The Revolutionary War helped to spread the Self surname to new locations. One of the ways in which the federal government compensated Revolutionary soldiers for their service was to award them tracts of land in less-developed places. Some families moved close by the original home in what is now North Carolina. Others accepted the challenge of more distant areas such as Tennessee, Kentucky, and Ohio. In these instances, families were often split dramatically with each of several siblings starting new branches in far-apart places. This is one reason why, after one or two generations, correspondence broke off and close cousins were lost to each other until the advent of the Internet.

The Selfs followed the general Westward movement, pushing the frontier farther and farther toward the Pacific Ocean. The majority moved south from Virginia and then across the continent through the Southeastern states and into Oklahoma and Texas, then onward to Nevada, Arizona, and California. A large contingent remained in Texas, and Selfs can be found in almost all regions of the state. A smaller group spread into the Midwest, particularly Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, and then downward through Iowa, Kansas, and Colorado, until they, too reached the West Coast. Washington State was a popular destination for many families in the later 19th century. Tim's great uncle, for instance, left Tennessee for Washington on the promise of excellent farmland. Unfortunately, the dreams never came true for him; but his descendants still live there today.

While the Texas Selfs established large families in their respective counties, and while most living Selfs there today can trace their roots back through several local generations, the California Selfs are a different story. With the exception of some early Selfs who came to (especially Central) California in the second half of the 19th century and the first two or three decades of the twentieth, the large Self population in my state today are relative newcomers descended from many different lines. This is generally true for Selfs in most of the Southwestern states beyond Texas. But then, it's probably true for just about any surname that settled in the final American frontier.

One interesting observation: with improved oceanic transportation, more Selfs from England began arriving in the United States during the latter half of the 19th century. Most of them settled in New England, New Jersey, and New York. Unless by chance, almost none of them seemed to have any contact with the Selfs who had lived in the Southeast for a long time. This indicates that they came here independently and that they had no idea that they were related to Americans with their surname. Researchers find this to be common even in a state like Texas where Selfs belonging to various family lines moved into certain counties and, when they saw their surname on a rural mailbox, for example, declared that they were "no relation" to each other.

OTHER COUNTRIES

If you examine the Census, you'll find out that some American Selfs claim to have been born in foreign countries other than England. This doesn't mean that their lineage goes back several generations in those nations. It means that some members of the Self family migrated to them from England. There is a large representative group in Australia. Other countries we've seen include New Zealand, Canada, Germany, Switzerland, and Tanzania--among others--and, of course, Scotland and Ireland. Please do remember when you're researching your own Self heritage that all Selfs go back to England and from there, if legend is to be believed, to Denmark. Any other ethnic influences, including Native American, have come from marriages with females from those groups. Also, make sure that you have documentary and/or DNA proof before including thse nationalities in your gedcoms.

SUMMARY

Selfs can be found in every state of our country. They can also be found in many countries of the world. The largest group in the United States did seem to prefer the Southeast, but others spread out way beyond their Southern homes. The English Selfs settled also in parts of Europe, Australia, and a variety of other more exotic places. In essence, our extended family represents the history of at least two major countries, pushing the frontiers along with other adventurous souls. For those of us who are citizens of the United States and the United Kingdom, the history of our Selfs and the history of our respective countries are essentially one and the same.

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BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT

Nathan Andrew Walker was born on August 31, 2010 in Apple Valley, CA. His parents are Andrew Blake Seawolf and Nicole (Burns) Walker of Phelan, CA. His Self grandmother is Beverly Sabrina (Walker) Sainte-Claire of Yucca Valley, CA. His Self great-grandfather is Tim Seawolf-Self of Phelan, CA.

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DEAD ENDS
part 6
"G"
by Barbara Peck and Tim Seawolf-Self

When we began "SelfSite at RootsWeb," our objective was to present as much unrelated Self data as possible in the hopes that these individuals and families would be recognized by someone out there. Because the Selfs married into many other surnames, it's just possible that a person surfing the Web could come across a Self connection that was previously unknown to them. We divided the entries into two groups: "Loose Ends" and "Dead Ends." The Loose Ends are Selfs for whom we have no ready ancestry. The Dead Ends are marriages of Self descendants for whom we are seeking descendants. We've decided to reprint the "Dead Ends" bit by bit in this netletter to make it easier for you to go through them and to give visitors to our sites one more point of access. Also there have been additions, deletions, and corrections. Please check your records to see if any of these couples are in your database. As always, information you may provide to us is for posterity. Living people will not be put on the Web.

GADDY, T. M. and MARTIN, Mary L. married before 1880 probably in Gallia, OH
GAINES, Daniel Y. and BENNETT, Louisa Ann married probably before 1900 in LA
GAMBELL/GAMBLE, James and RAMSEY, Sally married 6 June 1815 in Augusta, VA
GANTT, Joseph C. and SELF, Catherine married about 1865 in Cleveland County, NC
GARDNER, John William and DOBBS, Golda married 5 Apr 1905, probably in Comanche County, TX
GARNER, James Madison and WILLIAMS, Ollie married about 1902, probably in Cherokee County, GA
GARNER, J. G. and SIMPSON, Josephine married 13 Dec 1865 in Sabine Parish, LA
GARNER, Joseph Henry and HOWARD, Lena Leola married about 1906, probably in Cherokee County, GA
GARNHAM, William and SELF, Mary married about 1769 in Letheringham, Suffolk, England
GARRARD, J. B. and SELF, Flora A. married 25 Oct 1896 in Clay County, AR
GARRETT, Estes W. and SELF, Lizzie married 17 Oct 1878 in Fayette County, KY
GARRETT, Unknown and KILGORE, Eva I. married about 1910 in GA
GARVEY, Sam and HOAGLAND, Clarissa Evelyn married about 1885, probably in Morgan County, IL
GAWAN, Thomas and SELF, Ann married 1698 in Stradbroke, Suffolk, England
GAYLE, Joseph and SELF, Carrie Pearl married 22 Nov 1917 in Caroline County, VA
GAYNE, Thomas and SELF, Anne married 1605 in Hoxne, Suffolk, England
GEHN, William H. and SELF, Katie married 13 Jun 1895 in Floyd County, IN
GENTRY, C. S. Grant and SELF, Coleto Ann married 25 Nov 1918 in Walker County, GA
GEORGE, Clark Henry and SELF, Mattie Coelia married 31 Dec 1911 in Hunt County, TX
GIBBONS, Will and TAYLOR, Seneth M. married about 1880
GIBSON, Alexander and STANDRIDGE, Cecil married before 1920, probably in AR
GIBSON, George A. and SELF, Elizabeth married July 28, 1864 in Phillips County, AR
GIBSON, John D. and SELF, Chessie B. married 26 Sep 1914 in Taylor County, TX
GIBSON, Walter and SELF, Gertie married about 1914, probably in Jefferson County, AL
GIBSON, W. M. and SELF, Nellie married Aug. 17, 1884 in Scott County, AR
GIFFORD, James A. and MILLER, Elizabeth (Herd) married 17 Nov 1886 in Fulton County, IN
GIFFORD, James A. and RAVER, Julia married 9 Nov 1879 in Pulaski County, IN
GIGER, Unknown and SELF, Eula M. married about 1915 in Randolph County, GA
GILBERT, Unknown and NEAL, Lillian E. married about 1916, probably in Hopkins County, TX
GILCREASE, Ben Everett and COVERT, Grace married before 1920 in OK
GILCREASE, Edward Jackson and MYLES, Jennie married before 1920 in OK
GILDON, Levi E. and SELF, Emma Ann married 30 Sep 1885 in Freestone County, TX
GILES, Unknown and GLASSCOCK, Georgia married before 1910 in Cullman County, AL
GILL, Floyd and CARROLL, Annie married before 1920 in LA
GILL, James Washington Cicero and MIEXNER, Helen Elda married 28 Nov 1915, possibly in GA
GILL, John J. and CARROLL, Alice married 1912 in LA
GILL, Jones and FOWLER, Lucy married before 1910, probably in TX
GILL, Lewis Jefferson and MEACHAM, Lena married 26 Jan 1915, probably in Randolph County, AL
GILL, Thomas J. and ELLIOTT, Evie E. married about 1905 in LA
GILLEAN, Benjamin T. and SELF, Sylvia married about 1890
GILLEAN, William and SELF, Sarah married about 1890
GILLHAM, Gersham M. and SELF, Mildred married 14 Jan 1841 in Madison County, IL
GILLIAM, Arthur and TUNNELL, Martha married about 1880 probably in Garden Valley, TX
GILLIAM, B. T. and SELF, Silva married Sep. 4, 1887 in Sebastian County, AR
GILLILAND, James Allen and SELF, Lucinda R. married 24 Sep 1863 in Ralls County, MO
GINN, Ezekial and GIFFORD, Thomas married 3 Nov 1892 in White County, IN
GINNETT, W. S. and SELF, Elizabeth married 16 Nov 1879 in Upson County, GA
GIRLING, Benjamin and SELF, Elizabeth married 1761 in Stradbroke, Suffolk, England
GIVENS, William and SELF, Clara married 6 May 1892 in Muskogee County, OK
GLASCOCK, B. J. and SELF, Nancy Jane married about 1902, probably in Vernon Parish, LA
GLASSCOCK, Camillus and LOYD, Myrtle married about 1910 in Cullman County, AL
GLASSCOCK, John Henry and BATEMAN, Nora Josephine married before 1920 in Cullman County, AL
GLASSCOCK, Ryan A. and SELF, Alice J. married 23 Sep 1888 in Cullman County, AL
GLASSCOCK, Travis Levert and KELLY, Lovella married 26 Mar 1905 in Cullman County, AL
GLENN, Daniel Steward and VIANDS, Nettie Maude married about 1881 in Rockingham County, VA
GLENN, George H. and HENSLEY, Elvira J. married about 1881 in Rockingham County, VA
GLENN, Joe and DOBBS, Virginia Vieday married 21 Dec 1890 in Washington County, AR
GLOVER, William and BAHAM, Margaret married before 1910 in LA
GODFREY, G. W. and SELF, Bertha K. married about 1910 in Randolph County, GA
GOINS, Henry A. and SELF, Louisiana married about 1870 in LA
GOLD, Jonathan and WEST, Malinda Ann married about 1889, probably in Union County, GA
GOLD, Joseph Christopher and ELLIOTT, Julia Ann married about 1906, probably in NC
GOLDRING, John and SELF, Anne married 1719 in Withersdale, Suffolk, England
GOLDSTON, Charles Edward and SELF, Unknown married about 1912 in AL
GOOCH, John and SELF, Susan married 1723 in Syleham, Suffolk, England
GOOCH, Thomas (or Robert) and SELF, Mary married 1769 in Needham, Norfolk, England
GOOD, Newton E. and SELF, Marjorie married about 1910
GOODLETT, Arthur and SELF, Watsie L. married before 1900 in GA or AL
GOODRICH, James K. Polk and STREET, Sarah Anderson married about 1849 in Dickson County, TN. The family went to TX
GOODWIN, D. T. and SELF, Hester married 16 Jan 1894 in Jefferson County, AL
GOODWIN, Mountville and DOWNS, Caroline married 18 Sep 1879 in Jefferson County, AL
GOODWIN, N. E. and SELF, Gertrude married 21 Dec 1897, probably in Jefferson County, AL
GOOLSBY, Oscar and BLACK, Evia N. married 15 Dec 1912, probably in Lafayette County, MS
GORMAN, Unknown and STORY, Juanita married about 1905
GOSS, Harold Eugene and SELPH, Hattie married 19 Sep 1909 in Greene County, MO
GOSS, Sylvester S. and SELF, Sara Louisa married about 1896, probably in Falls County, TX
GOUCHER, Riley and CARTER, Arizona married 7 Oct 1894 probably in Madison County, AR
GOUTLEY, James G. and RAMSEY, Stella W. married 30 May 1898 in Perry County, IN
GOWING, Thomas and SELF, Ann married 1779 in Dickleburgh, Norfolk, England
GRADY, Daniel R. and SELF, Nancy married 17 Jan 1867 in Sabine Parish, LA
GRADY, James W. and UNKNOWN, Jean married about 1913, probably in IL or KS
GRAHAM, George and AKINS, Lena married 9 Dec 1906 in Hall County, GA
GRAHAM, George W. and BRADEN, Jane married 30 Jul 1839 in KY
GRAHAM, Lester and SELF, Ova Edna married 23 Aug 1913 in Vigo County, IN
GRAHAM, William and EADS, Catherine married about 1855, possibly in Morgan County, IL
GRANDSTAFF, William M. and SELF, Mary R. married 18 Sep 1868 in Cass County, IL
GRANT, H. O. and KELLY, Ethel I. married 23 Mar 1902 in Visalia, Tulare County, CA
GRANT,, J. R. and SELF, Martha married 10 Jul 1892 in Union County, GA
GRANTHAM, Alonzo and SELF, Ellie married before 1920 in MS
GRAVES, George M. and SELF, Irene married 4 Jun 1902 in Caroline County, VA
GRAVITT, Reuben and LANGLEY, Anna married Feb 1843 in Forsyth County, GA
GRAVITTE, Jesse and COLLINS, Jean B. married before 1920, probably in Union County, GA
GRAYBILL, William A. and SELF, Sarah A. married 1865
GRAYELL, Oliver and GIFFORD, Susan married before 1890 probably in Pulaski County, IN
GREEN, A. Taylor and SELF, Matilda J. married Feb. 14, 1894 in Logan County, AR
GREEN, Henry and CHASTAIN, Minnie married before 1910 in GA or AR
GREEN, Henry and SELF, Bertie married before 1920 in AL
GREEN, Lemuel and UNKNOWN, Florence married before 1920, possibly in GA
GREEN, Thomas and SELF, Ann married 18 Jul 1838 in Washtenau County, MI
GREER, Ernest and KINNEY, Mary Elizabeth married 21 Dec 1878
GREGORY, C. C. and SELF, Emma A. married 23 Jan 1891 in Muskogee County, OK
GREGORY, Charles and SELF, Emma Arnice married Dec 1888 in Texanna, OK
GREGORY, W. I. (or W. S.) and SELF, Clara Ester married 10 Jul 1890 in Washington County, AR
GRENEROD, John and SELF, Catherine married 1601 in Heacham, Norfolk, England
GRIFFIN, Clarence Earl and UNKNOWN, Jeanette married about 1907, probably in Vermillion County, IL
GRIFFIN, George Harlan and GOETSCHIUS, Ethel D. married 24 Feb 1912 in Vermillion County, IL
GRIFFIN, Loy and ADAMSON, Maggie Lee married about 1908, probably in Randolph County, AL
GRIFFING, Unknown and HEARD, Lizzie P. married about 1878
GRIFFIS, John and SELF, Hulda Bertha married about 1915
GRIGGS, Rhodan Self and SMITH, Charlotte married 23 Feb 1819 in Baldwin or Hancock County, GA.
GRISHAM, Austin and NALL, Sarah married in MO
GROSSMAN, Phillip Augustus and LIPPENCOTT, Francis Maude married 18 Apr 1918 in Butler County, KS
GROTH, George and SELPH, Auta married before 1920 in Highland County, OH
GUFFEN, Lloyd and BLALOCK, Wynona married about 1918, possibly in TN
GUINN, Isham Griffen and SELF, Mary Etta married 1881 in AL
GUN, Daniel and SELF, Mary married 1684 in Hoxne, Suffolk, England
GUNN, Johnson C. and SELPH, Mary Ann married 30 Jan 1870 in Brooks County, GA
GUNTER, Unknown and SELF, Dovey C. married about 1904, probably in Union County, GA
GUYTON, Tom and AKINS, Beulah married 17 Aug 1913 in Hall County, GA
GWALTNEY, Francis and SELF, Susannah J. married 5 Dec 1860 in Dyer County, TN
GWILLIAMS, William Elmus and MARRS, Esther Ola married about 1902, probably in Washington County, AR

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LOOSE ENDS

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DEAD ENDS

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