Subject: CUMMIN(G)S,COMYN'S/FAMILIES - 10 / 2 - 1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:46:31 EST From: Chascum
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hope you all are doing well , if you havent posted or updated you
information for a while , please do so , you never know what might
turn up
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Thanks to all of you for your help, remember you are the ones that
make this
work
and without your help it will not work ............. thanks again
for your
help
hope this finds everyone well Charlie
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the purpose of this list is to get you all talking to each other and
to be
able to hopefully share that information with the rest of us about
this
Family's name regardless of how it is spelled or is in direct
relationship
to each other and to help all/each other in putting the pieces
together in
our search for their own lineage of
the CUMMIN(G)S/COMYN'S FAMILY ,...........
If you don't want to be on this list tell me...
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A word of warning. All data here is a compilation of many
researchers
efforts. Not all the data here is documented or referenced so it
would
benefit you and/or anyone you share this research with to verify this
data
before accepting it's authenticity ........
Please Do not let this deter you from submitting undocumented
data as
even unproven data can lead you in the right direction and someday
might be
proven. just try to let every one know that it is not documented
...
thanks Charlie
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can now
be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chascum
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Descendants of Isaac Cummings of Ipswich/Topsfield, Massachusetts.
http://www.kichline.com/carrie/Icfa/index.htm
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Visit Patrick S. Cummins Site, Researching Descendants of
Cummin(g)s,
Hamilton, Kraft, Smith, Stover, Lewallen, and Pennell families.
www.thecomyn.com
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Subj:
Date: 10/25/02 11:17:40 PM Central Daylight Time
From: bcnewberryhotmail.com (Barbara Newberry)
Genealogy News.... -
Just this week The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has
made
available on the internet the 1880 Census. Below is the website where
anyone
can access it. HAPPY HUNTING.
http://www.familysearch.org/
Barbara Cummins Newberry
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Subj: Re:Sserfecz
Date: 10/18/02 3:06:38 PM Central Daylight Time
From: raglanjps.net (Esther Vogel)
To: Chascumaol.com
Hi Charlie,
This is in reply to Sserfecz in your newsletter of 10-1-02.
I found, in researching my ancestry, that --once I got the name of
an
ancestor
who was in the history books-- it was much easier to gather
information. You
might wish to search in your public library for information about
John of
Gaunt
and his family. He founded the House of Beaufort, from whom
descended Henry
the
IV, V, and VI of England. John had a long affair with Catherine
Swyndon
and, I
believe, eventually married her. Their illegitimate children were
legitimized
with the proviso that they would not seek the throne of England. Of
course
that
went by the boards.
You might also want to read about Geoffrey of Anjou who was reputed
to be the
founder of the House of Plantagenet. Geoffrey was the father of
Henry II of
England (the king in the movie Lion in Winter). He (Geoffrey) was
said to
wear
a planta genista (Spanish broom) in his hat. It was also said, by
some of
Geoffrey's subjects, that one of his female ancestors had congress
with the
devil
making Geoffrey their descendant(!) Whatever...
There is material regarding the Black Comyn and the Red Comyn in the
library
as
well. The Comyns of Scotland were the power behind the Scottish
throne for
100
years, their power coming to an end shortly after Robert the Bruce
murdered
the
chief Comyn in Greyfriars Church, Dumfries, circa 1314. There are
several
works
on the Comyn clan by Alan Young of Ripon University, Scotland. Try
Amazon.com if
your library doesn't have them.
Good luck! All us Cumminses will be eager to hear the results of
your
research.
Esther in CA
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Subj: Re: Sserfecz
Date: 10/18/02 11:12:14 PM Central Daylight Time
From: SSerfecz
To: Chascum
Hi Charles,
Thank you so much again for your forwarding of Esther's reply from
CA. I
could not believe that someone out there had the same line of
information. I
did not know all that about John of Gaunt because most of my info was
oral
history passed from my great grandmother to my mom. Somewhere in
this union
is a connection to our Veatch side of the family as well. John of
Gaunt was
supposed to be friends with Chaucer. Chaucer lived in his home.
When the
Duchess of Panik died, Chaucer's work "The Lady in White" was written
about
her. Chaucer also talked about her (Blanche, Duchess of Panik) in
his satire
of the "Canterbury Tales". I did do some brief research on John a
couple
years ago. Curiosity got the best of me and I wanted to see what he
looked
like. I did find a stained glass window that was supposed to be a
close
likeness to him. It surprised me to find that there was some
resemblance to
a couple of my uncles.
I was not sure of the knight's name who was beaten in front of the
Church of
the Holy Sepulchre, and it was neat to find that his broom or yellow
plant
may have been carried in his hat! The female being in congress with
the
devil is also interesting. There was supposed to be an ancestor who
had
something to do with the publication of a book or encyclopedia of
witchcraft.
These are all clues for me. The Cummings and family were also
somehow
involved with the Salem witch trials.
One of the Comyns was supposed to be tall and one little. In our
family,
depending on genes, we are either short from about 5'4" for males to
very
very tall (great uncle was 7' 2"). Comyn the Red and Comyn the Black
research is a good idea. Through the years I have been concentrating
on the
closest of relatives I know, and going from present to past. This
can be
very frustrating. Common sense would be to start from way back to
the
present. It might be easier!!! Dumb me. Thanks again, I will let
you know
if I find anything interesting. ... And thanks again to you Esther of
CA! I
am going to have to rent "The Lion in Winter" again.
Sue
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Subj: Johnathan & Debbie Comings family Bible
Date: 10/20/02 1:07:27 PM Central Daylight Time
From: jhollinpacifier.com (Jim & Carole Hollingsworth)
To: CHASLARaol.com, Chascumaol.com
Hi,
Saw this on one of my mailing lists and thought someone in the group
might be
interested. They are not in my direct line.
1805 ANTIQUE EARLY AMERICAN FAMILY HOLY BIBLE
Up for auction is a thick leatherbound early American Bible, THE HOLY
BIBLE,
Containing the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS: Together with the APOCRYPHA:
Translated Out of the Original Tongues, and With the Former
Translations
Diligently Compared and Revised. Published in Morristown (New Jersey)
in
1805. Printed by Mann and Douglass. Bible was the Family Bible of the
Cumings
family; pasted in page in the inside rear cover details the children,
along
with their births and in some cases, deaths, of Jonathan and Deborah
Cumings.
Last dated death is 1838. 1142 pages. 5 x 8-1/2", 3" thick. Bound in
full
leather with ribbed spine. Pages worn and yellowed with edgewear and
leather
scuffed, but book complete and tightly bound. GOOD PLUS condition.
Ancient
and venerable. A tight copy of a scarce early 19th century family
Holy Bible.
Many antique Bibles up for auction this week... Good luck!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1571616171
1805 CUMINGS Family Bible; Item # 1571616171
Auction ends: Oct-27-02 16:57:26 PST; Seller: bookbaker.com
Leather bound CUMINGS family Bible, published in Morristown,
New Jersey, 1805. Printed by Mann and Douglass. Bible has a
page pasted in the inside rear cover that details the children
of Jonathan and Deborah CUMINGS, along with their births and
in some cases, deaths. The last dated death is 1838. [Editor's
Note: An image of the page containing records accompanies this
listing; however, I could not enlarge it enough to read.
Someone else might be able to read it.]
Note the auction ends Oct. 27th.
Carole Hollingsworth
Pacific NW
jhollinpacifier.com
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Subj: My Cummings Family
Date: 10/20/02 6:42:31 PM Central Daylight Time
From: kitten0318earthlink.net (Carla Turner)
Hello! I am searching my family lineage of Augusta Belle Cummings.
I do
know the following: She was born on August 27, 1868 in Chester Twp.,
Meigs
Co., OH. She died on February 17, 1942 in Parkersburg, WV. She
married
July 21, 1888 in Mason Co., OH to James Henry F. Teaford. Her father
is
John Cummings. Her mother is Sarah Ellen Radford who was born on
August
21, 1840 in Ohio and died on November 11, 1922 in Meigs Co., Ohio.
Any help on getting past her father John would be most appreciated.
Thank
you!
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Subj: Family Tree
Date: 10/20/02 9:36:21 PM Central Daylight Time
From: debtom12msn.com (DEBORAH HUSSEY)
To: chascumaol.com
Hey Charlie,
My brother told me about your website, which I haven't found yet, but
I found
you through someone elses. I just started a family tree, and I have
no clue
what I am doing. I am a Cummins and my grandfather is Charlie
Cummins from
Kansas. Maybe you can give me some clues as to what to do.
Subj: Re: Family Tree
Date: 10/22/02 1:13:42 AM Central Daylight Time
From: debtom12msn.com (DEBORAH HUSSEY)
To: Chascumaol.com
Hey,
Thanks for getting back to me so soon. To be honest I just started
and don't
have much, but every little bit helps I suppose. All's I know is my
father
Glenn Leslie Cummins born in Nebraska in 1901, one of 9 children, 8
sons, 1
daughter, the only name I can remember at the moment are Ira, Paul,
Charles,
John, Marie and of course my father, Glenn. His father named
Charles, don't
know his mother's name she died when dad was young, but her maiden
name is
Britt. I also remember my father saying that his only sister died
young I
think in the 1917 influenza epidemic. My fathers birthday is
8-26-1901, as
far as I know. He said he had to lie about it alot, I what I
remember he
joined the army when he was 13 years old. He also, said he was
General
Patton's chauffer. I have know clue is anything I said here tonight
will
help.
Please let me know, if you can make heads or tails of any of this.
And what
is your website, I don't seem to find it. I am not all that
knowledgeable
when it comes to this, but I would like to learn. I have spent days
looking
through different websites, and to no avail do I find anything, that
means
anything to me as of yet.
Thanks, I hope some of this helps and I look forward to hearing from
you.
Debbie
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Subj: cummins in Illinois
Date: 10/22/02 10:10:36 PM Central Daylight Time
From: mandre221netscape.net
I am trying to find information on Emma CUMMINS, who married Fred
NIEHAUS. He
died in Mattoon, Coles Co., Il in 1945. She is buried in Sullivan,
Moultrie
Co., IL. Thank you, Mary
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Subj: Cumming family tree
Date: 10/23/02 7:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time
From: gullifordhn.ozemail.com.au (Gulliford)
To: chascumaol.com
Hi
I found your email address on the Genform site.
I believe you have info on the Cumming family.
I was wondering if you had come across a Charles Cumming.
He was born in 1774. He died in 1886 in Perthshire, Scotland.
He married Catherine Gow on 9 October 1797 at Errol, Tayside,
Scotland.
Any info on family would be much appreciated.
Regards
Tony Gulliford
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Subj: Minnesota Cummins
Date: 10/23/02 2:07:17 PM Central Daylight Time
From: bfullercharter.net (Becky Fuller)
To: chascumaol.com
Hi Charlie
I've been reading alot about the different Cummins's on your list. I
haven't
seen anything regarding my Cummins line but would like to be added to
your
list. Who knows maybe this will be the big break I'm looking for.
My gggrandfather's name was John Cummins, born either N.Y. or VT.
about 1814.
In each census that I've found him in he lists N.Y. as his birthplace
on one
and another he'll list VT. I have no idea if he has siblings or his
parents
names. I do know that he married Louisa Mary Brooks in Medina Co.,
Ohio in
1837. They lived in Kenosha Co., WI where all but one of their 9
children
were born. They moved to Blue Earth Co., MN in 1857 and to "Old
Janesville",
Waseca Co., MN in 1862. Does any of this sound familiar to anyone ?
Please
contact me at bfullercharter.net Thank you.
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Subj: Anyone looking for info??
Date: 10/25/02 4:40:52 PM Central Daylight Time
From: pjjofferpldi.net
Looking for any info on Sidney Cummins, died in Oklahoma in 1907 and
is
buried in Killgore family cemetery in Grady Cty. His marker same
shape as
children of WC and Nancy Killgore and he's buried in line of children
they
lost, directly behind the toddler they lost to disease. He died just
a few
months after her. Wonder if same disease, could have been. No other
Cummins
in cemetery, no relatives make connection to the family of Cummins
that I can
find so far. Help. Thanx. Pat JJ
Surnames: Killgore, Cummins, Winters
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Subj: ALMIRA CUMMINS
Date: 10/24/02 7:27:23 PM Central Daylight Time
From: dsterntwmi.rr.com
Hi All
Still looking for parents and siblings for Almira Cummins.
b.29 Apr 1820 in NY: d.15 Nov 1882 in St. Louis, Greene County MO.:
Married
25 Dec 1843 in St Louis MO. to Alexander W. McPherson from Boone
County KY.
The couple had 7 children. Anyone know of her?
Surnames: McPHERSON, LOVE, HICKS, BENBROOK, WEEKS, LAKE, CUMMINS
Diane McPherson
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Subj: Elmer, Mabel, and James Cummins> IL/OH/MO
Date: 10/24/02 5:27:33 PM Central Daylight Time
From: mary_tillhotmail.com
Looking for anyone with information on an Elmer, Mabel, or James
Cummins that
lived in IL ca. 1889-1970's. I'm am the g-granddaughter of Elmer
Cummins and
was told that he had a brother and sister that lived in IL. I was
also told
that their father was a Benjamin Cummin and mother Mabel Cox that
were poss.
from OH or MO. Anyone with information please feel free to contact
me. Thanks!
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Subj: Bridget Cummings
Date: 10/27/02 8:10:12 AM Central Standard Time
From: ETexGalwebtv.net (Marcia Payne)
Bridget Cummings married Cady Roche/Roach
on Sept. 12, 1852 at St. Paul's Catholic Church of Blackstone, Mass.
He is my great-greatgrandfather. I never knew about her. I am
guessing
that she died, because he married (2nd) to Mary Hinchan on May 10,
1862
at the same church.
He was from Mitchelstown Ireland and 27 years old when he married
Bridget Cummings.
If anyone has Cummings relatives from this area, which is on the
border
of southeast Worcester County and the Rhode Island stateline please
contact me.
Thank you,
Marcia
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Subject:
Obit
Date:
Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:33:16 -0600
From:
"Cummins, Charles E" cox.net'"