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LeStrange/Strange/Strang/Stronge/Strong
DNA Study Note #04
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(This discussion relates to the Hypothesis that John Strong, Sr., of New Kent
County, Virginia, may be related to the same genetic stock as that which gave
rise to the New England descendants of Elder John Strong of Massachusetts)
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John Strong, Sr., of
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See:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/lineages_england.htm
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Other References:
"Strong Family of Virginia and Other Southern States", (c. 1982,
Oak Forest, Illinois.) by James Robert Rolff;
Volume V, Strong Family Histories, published for the SFAA by Edwards
Brothers, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, (c) SFAA, 1996. pp. 262-436 Introduction [by
Robert T. Strong, Jr.] First Five Generations [by the late Robert T. Strong,
Jr.] Samuel Strong, of
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Edward Strong, of |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Strong"
To: "David B. Strong"
Sent:
Subject: Re: DNA Study Update
Dear Dave,
It would be interesting if this DNA information does show cracks in brickwalls.
My husband says that he always heard that two brothers came over from
and one went north and the other went south. I don't understand how Strongs
originated in
Thank you,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David B. Strong"
To: "Sharon Strong"
Cc: "Robert Watt Strong "
Robert E. Strong
Sent:
Subject: Re: DNA Study Update
Hi
…..
First, please understand that I am not a Southern Strong. …
I am not an expert re the
Southern Strongs... I have just picked up a bit of
knowledge through various
reading and correspondance
through the years. …… there is a book by James Rolff, entitled " Strong Family of Virginia and Other
Southern States ", (c. 1982); plus another book which is part of the
Benjamin Dwight update series by the Strong Family Association of America
(SFAA), Vol. 5, in which there is a large section written by the late Robert T.
Strong, Jr., each of which contain extensive write-ups re the
"Southern" Strongs. There are
disputes between various folks concerning which interpretation... (Rolff’s, or RTS, Jr's) of certain
facts is correct.
The essential fact, however, is that they both seem to agree
that the Southern Strongs descend from John Strong of
New Kent County, Virginia. When I said the Southern Strongs originate in
There is a hypothesis that John Strong of
Unfortunately, there are few records which have been tied
together regarding the various Strongs of the early
17th Century. There is no documentary
evidence currently available to establish any linkage. That may
leave us trying to prove or disprove a relationship
through analysis of DNA evidence. While we are developing some evidence
from the DNA study, the proper interpretation of that evidence is still in a
development stage. The suggestions I have made about relationships
is SPECULATIVE…..
I am not familiar with the various legends re the family history of the "Southern"
lineages involved. I have not previously heard the "two brothers"
theory. The "two brothers" theory mentioned by your husband may
be correct... however, then the question might be, "of what line were they?". The fact that both of the first colonists...
Elder John in
Were the two brothers themselves descendants of John Strong
of New Kent Co., VA, or of some other colonist? That could be where
the Edward Strong of
In short, I don't really know the answers to your questions.
I just know enough to know some of the questions. However, if you
are interested in pursuing this further, I suggest you look up both Rolff and Vol.5 of the SFAA Update series, and also discuss
the subject in further depth with someone like Robert E. Strong of
to help you further.
Hope this helps a bit.
Best Regards
Dave Strong
PS, you might also take a look at the following info which may or may not apply
to your line clipped from my webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegalstrongs/lineages_england.htm
"George Strong, b.1620,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Strong"
To: "David B. Strong"
Cc: "Robert E. Strong
Sent:
Subject: Re: DNA Study Update
Not a bad synopsis for a non-Southern Strong, Dave. A few
comments if I might.
The "two brothers" (sometimes "three") hypothesis is very
common "family
history" in many genealogy lines--I have that story in at least three of
my
lines!!! Since you are not out of the Southern strain, it doesn't surprise
me that you haven't heard it, but it a very common tale among us VA
Strongs. Robert T., Jr. and I had several extended discussions
about the
hypothesis in the years before his death. I also believe that it may be
mentioned somewhere in Rolff's book, but I don't have
complete copy of it
here at the house, so can't check (only have the chapter on Edward Strong).
Bob T. and I concluded that the story may be based on the early immigration
of a number of Strongs as recorded in the early land
patents of the VA
colony (1623-1666):
Edward Strong, 1635
Edward Strong, 1637
James Strong, 1642
Alex Stronge, 1650
James Strong, 1653
Abraham Stronge, 1653
Leonard, 1655
[There is also a patent naming a "Mary Strong" in 1650.]
(from
Greer's EARLY
1912)
A check of Nugent's CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, seems to indicate that the
"two" Edward Strong of Norfolk County are the same person recorded in
two
different patents on different dates to the same patentee, "Capt. Adam
Thorogood"--the same 12 individuals are listed
as "transported" on what
appears to be the same tract of land, i.e., the 1837 version may simply be
a re-patenting of the original 1635 tract.
All the rest of these Strongs are listed in Greer as transportees on patents held by
different individuals, in different places, at different times, with the
possible exception of Abraham and Mary--while these two patents were
recorded by different individuals on different dates (3 years apart), they
are both in
The only other potential connection might be between Edward and
Leonard--Edward was in Norfolk County and Leonard was listed in Nansemond
County, which originally had been Upper Norfolk County after the original
county split (it was renamed to Nansemond [Nansimum] in 1642). However, the
nearly twenty year time spread (1635-1655) between the patents would seem
to weigh in against these two being brothers.
The problem is that there is absolutely NOTHING that connects any of these
Strongs as brothers, either by date, by place or by
documentation. Nor, to
my knowledge has anyone ever been able to link the known VA Strong
lines--either John of Kent County or Edward of Norfolk County--to any of
these immigrants. (And, as Bob T. noted in the SFAA Vol. 5, no one has been
able to successfully link either line to an earlier VA immigrant, William
Strong of 1619.)
Since this has come up, thought I would share. As I said, Bob T. and I
spent some time speculating on all this--unfortunately that is what it
remains: speculation!
I suspect that the DNA route holds the most promise for at least grounding
some of these lines in a common ancestor or ancestors.
Take care,
Bob
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