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HARRIS DNA—GROUP 58

Compiled by Glenn Gohr

*This is a partial summary. It may take several weeks for any updates to this page after updates to the Harris Y-DNA Results page at FTDNA and the last update from the HARRIS WELCOME Page. This is a time-consuming project.

Last updated January 1, 2018.

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This is an ongoing project seeking to chart out lines of descent that have been DNA tested as shown on the Harris Y-DNA Results Page. Information is based on DNA results, lineage information supplied by kit submitters, Bible records, vital records, legal documents, census records, family histories, internet sources, etc. In some cases the paper trail and/or information found on the web or other sources may be in error. Please view this information as a tool and not as proven fact.

NOTICE: Information presented in these webpages is not to be construed as PROVABLE FACTS. It is up to the user to verify all information that he/she receives. Some information has been provided by kit submitters and their own research. Other information has been added from other sources. Additions and corrections are welcome.

Lineage information in brackets { } lists the Group Number and the DNA Kit Number as found on the Harris Y-DNA Results Page. If you are looking for a specific kit number, click CONTROL and F at the same time. Then do a key word search by kit number or name of earliest-known ancestor. Additional information will be included as more DNA markers are tested and as more participants match up with this grouping.

This group of kits belongs to the R haplogroup. The new haplogroup listings adopted in 2014 conform to the ISOGG SNP nomenclature, which uses the shortened haplogroup name (one letter only) combined with the terminal SNP (Single Nucleotide Polymorphism). In groups where kits are matched together, they will show the same haplogroup letter, but they may show different SNP designations.

See the International Society of Genetic Genealogy (ISOGG) page for the Y-DNA Haplogroup R and its Subclades.

Here are lineage charts (supported by DNA) that fall into Group 58 of the Harris Y-DNA Results. All spouses are not shown—only the ones that are listed as the parent of the generation that follows. For questionable generations, the names are preceded by an asterisk *. This means the connection between the person with an asterisk and the previous generation are unproven.

The modal listing of Group 58 up to 111 markers is listed on the HARRIS Y-DNA RESULTS Page.

In order to better compare matches in Group 58, the modal listing has also been posted on Ysearch with a user ID of DNWXP. To view the modal listing go to the Ysearch user ID page for DNWXP

For an exact match to the modal of this group, the submitter must be a male with the HARRIS surname, be from the same haplogroup, and the DNA markers from his kit number should match exactly with these results. In most cases there will be at least one variation in DNA marker values. If the two test kits are from close relatives, then the variation is due to normal mutations of DNA. DNA mutations usually occur every 3 or 4 generations. Some specific markers tested are known to mutate faster than others.

HARRIS DNA GROUP 58 LINEAGE CHARTS

Lineage #1.—DNA Kit #249709—Ysearch ID #EJFG3. This is for the line of James Harris (ca. 1789-ca. 1865) of East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana.

This family’s migration pattern is: East Baton Rouge Parish, LA > Livingston Parish, LA.

This kit’s Ysearch user ID is 9J65E. Additional information on this DNA kit and the paternal line can be found on the Ysearch user ID page for EJFG3

This is a 67-marker test that belongs to the R haplogroup. It matches the 111-marker modal for Group 58 with one variance in marker 30. The kit submitter has not supplied a lineage. A few details from other sources are added below: 

1 James {58-#249709} Harris b: ABT. 1789 d: ABT. 1865
  + Nancy Ames b: ABT. 1794 d: UNKNOWN
    2 Hardy Ames {58-#249709} Harris b: ABT. 1825 d: 1897
      + Mary Ann Allen b: 1834 d: 26 DEC 1866
        3 Hardy Ames {58-#249709} Harris, Jr. b: 1856 d: 1915
          + Sarah Elizabeth “Sallie” Cooper b: 1859 d: 1944
            4 Oliver Wilborn {58-#249709} Harris b: 7 AUG 1896 d: 30 DEC 1973
              + Ethel Lorraine Montgomery b: 28 JUL 1903 d: 19 JUN 1982

(Source: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/harris-mtdna/default.aspx?section=ycolorized; Ysearch ID:EJFG3; James Family of Pitt Co., NC: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~markfreeman/james.html, accessed 7/10/2012; listings on Findagrave.com for Hardy Ames Harris, Mary Ann Allen Harris, Hardy Ames Harris, Jr., Sarah Cooper Harris, Oliver Wilburn Harris, and Ethel Lorraine Montgomery Harris.)

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For information on additional family members in this line, go to SOME EARLY HARRISES AND POSSIBLE DNA CONNECTIONS

Lineage #2.—DNA Kit # B3136. This is for the line of John Harris (ca. 1750-????) of Franklin Co., North Carolina.

This family’s migration pattern is: Franklin Co., NC > Wilkes Co., NC > Chatham Co., NC.

This is a 111-marker test that belongs to the R haplogroup. It matches the 111-marker modal for Group 58 with one variance in marker 35. The kit submitter has not supplied a lineage. A few details from other sources are added below: 

1 John {58-#B3136} Harris b: ABT. 1750 d: UNKNOWN
  + Frances __________ b: ABT. 1750 d: UNKNOWN
    2 Orren {58-#B3136} Harris b: ABT. 1775 d: UNKNOWN
      +  ?
        3 James N. {58-#B3136} Harris b: 1803 d: AFT. 1880
          + Nancy Martin b: ABT. 1808 d: UNKNOWN
            4 John W. {58-#B3136} Harris b: 1827 d: 1858
              + Sarah Mira Greenwell b: 11 APR 1829 d: 17 JAN 1915
                5 John Wesley {58-#B3136} Harris b: ABT. 1858 d: 1902
                  + Nancy Jane Spicer b: 20 APR 1855 d: 25 SEP 1946
                    6 John Wesley {58-#B3136} Harris b: 4 MAR 1890 d: 2 APR 1957
                      + Levia McCann b: 1892 d: UNKNOWN

(Source: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/harris-mtdna/default.aspx?section=ycolorized.)

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For information on additional family members in this line, go to SOME EARLY HARRISES AND POSSIBLE DNA CONNECTIONS

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