EGETTER CONNECTION

The ALLHOFF-ZINCK-EGETTER-SAETTEL-WEAVER/WEVER CONNECTION MYSTERY

The families appears to have had connections perhaps in France with the ZINCK family, as they apparently rejoined in Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio following emigration. Here they attended the same Catholic Church and are found intermingled in burial plots.

Information, family photos, etc. courtesy of C. J. Egetter & Gay Ellen (Egetter) Hanlon
2007

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The article below points to a three way family relationship.


How is Mrs. Louisa M. (Weaver) Allhoff-Chalmers-Hardie a cousin to both Melania (Zinck) Egetter & Kate (Zinck) Saettel?



  • Melanie (Zinck) Egetter [Mrs. Egetter] was dau/o Joseph Zinck & Theresa (perhaps Bechel) and wife of Martin Egetter.
  • Catharine "Kate" Theodora (Zinck) Saettel [Mrs. Kate Saettel] was dau/o Celestine Zinck & Regina Rachel Lehmann and wife of George Saettel.
  • Louisa M. (Weaver) Allhoff appears to perhaps be related via a Zinck connection to both Melanie and Catharine. Was Louisa's mother perhaps a Zinck, since the article names them as cousins...but cousins to what degree (1st, 2nd, 3rd)?

    And, how are the ZINCK ladies related to each other?

    We know that Celestine Zinck was in Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio. We know that Joseph Zinck upon arrival in New Orleans made his way for Dayton, Ohio. Here the two men (Celestine & Joseph) and their children appear to have inter-mingled in close relationship. What exactly was that relationship? Were Celestine and Joseph perhaps brothers or perhaps cousins?

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    Mrs. Louisa M. (Weaver) Allhoff-Chalmers-Hardie




    How is she a cousin to both Melania (Zinck) Egetter & Kate (Zinck) Saettel?


    This newspaper article in 1902 appears to link the Joseph Zinck family via Melania (Zinck) Egetter to the Celestine Zinck family via Kate (Zinck) Saettel who traveled from Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio to visit with their said cousin, Louise M./S. (WEAVER) ALLHOFF-CHALMERS-HARDIE. The family connection appears to be along the ZINCK family line with the ALLHOFF family, as both Zinck descendants are said to be cousins of Louise M./S. (WEAVER) ALLHOFF-CHALMERS-HARDIE.



    Placerville, California
    Mountain Democrat
    September 27, 1902
    Courtesy of: C. J. Egetter

    "Mrs. Kate Saettle [sic] and Mrs. Eggetter [sic] and son, of Dayton, Ohio, arrived in Placerville last Saturday evening for a brief visit with M. J. Allhoff. The ladies are cousins of Mr. Allhoff's mother, whom they had just visited at San Jose. The party visited Coloma Sunday as the guests of Mr. Allhoff and on Tuesday left for Sacramento, en route to Ohio."


    [Note: Mrs. Kate Saettle was Catharine "Kate" Theodora (Zinck) Saettle, dau/o Celestine Zinck & Regina Rachel Lehmann and wife of George Saettel.
    Mrs. Eggetter was Melania (Zinck) Egetter, dau/o Joseph Zinck & Theresa (perhaps Bechel) and wife of Martin Egetter.
    Were the two Zinck ladies cousins between themselves and then with Mrs. Allhoff? If so, what was the three way relationship?
    Mrs. Egetter's son was probably s/o Martin Egetter and Melania Zinck in the person of Charles Henry Egetter, gf/o C. J. Egetter, contributor to this biography. Charles would have been 24 years of age at the time, and perhaps Charles was influenced by the visit, for a few years later, Charles moved to California.
    Mrs. Allhoff was Louisa (Weaver/Wever) Allhoff-Chalmers-Hardie, and M. J. Allhoff was her son. [Mr. Allhoff�s mother was a colorful character who played a major (and well recorded) role in the aftermath of the gold rush in El Dorado County, and the rise of the vineyard, wine, and hotel business in Coloma and vicinity. CJE]
    However, the exact family connections are unknown.
    1. Were Celestine Zinck & Joseph Zinck brothers?
    2. How are Allhoffs and said cousins of Mrs. Allhoff related? ASH, CJE]

    Joseph Zinck and wife, Theresa are buried at Calvary Cemetery in Dayton, Ohio, but their gravestones are not located in the same section as the Celestine Zinck family. Also, there is a huge section in the cemetery with many monuments devoted to the Allhoff family who are probably related.




    "There are at least four Egetters buried in Calvary Cemetery, and not one of them was found to have a marker or gravestone." (per C. J. Egetter) However, cemetery books record their burials.

    Calvary Cemetery
    Dayton, Montgomery County, Ohio
    Section 1; Lot 357

    Courtesy of: Helen (Steele) Lehman

    KNOWN & UNKNOWN FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS
  • Joseph Zinck (1820-1855) (probably related to Celestine Zinck 1822-1896), married Thresa [--?--] (abt. 1815-1883)
  • Thresa ([--?--]) Zinck (abt. 1815-1883), wife of Joseph Zinck (1820-1855)
  • Theresia Zinck (unknown relationship)
  • Martin/Marx Egetter (1844 France-1926 California) married Melanie Zinck (1845 France-1924 California), dau/o Joseph Zinck (1820-1855)
  • Carolina Zinck (no dates), dau/o Joseph Zinck (1820-1855) & Thresa [--?--] (abt. 1815-1883)
  • Celestine Zinck (1822-1896) married Regina Rachel Lehman(n) (1825-1891), sis/o Catherine Elizabeth Lehman(n) (1828-1895)
  • Ferdinand Frick (1822-1891), hus/o Catherine Elizabeth Lehman(n) (1828-1895)
  • Wm. H. Yeager (1856-1926), hus/o Theresa Catharine Amelia Frick (1859-????), dau/o Ferdinand Frick & Catherine E. Lehman(n)
  • Theresa Catharine Amelia Frick (1859-????), dau/o Ferdinand Frick & Catherine Elizabeth Lehman(n)
  • Michael Lehmann (1790-1853) & wife, Marie Madeleine Biam (1791-1859), parents of Catherine and Regina (Reinterred from now defunct St. Henry Cemetery) Marie Madeleine/Mary Magdelena was buried as Helena Lehmann.
  • Aloysius Frick, s/o Ferdinand Frick & Catherine Elizabeth Lehman(n)
  • Joseph Frick, s/o Ferdinand Frick & Catherine Elizabeth Lehman(n)
  • Joseph W. Egetter, s/o Martin/Marx A. Egetter & Melania Zinck
  • (Infant) Egetter (d 1898), s/o John C. Egetter & Melissa Hott
  • John Egetter (unknown relationship)
  • Louisa Beachgood (unknown relationship)
  • Rollins Eberhardt (unknown relationship)


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