What you leave behind is not what is engraved on stone monuments,
but what is woven into the lives of others, your descendants ...
It's finally open !
the hdpth Y-DNA study group
Results for first
15
test kits
submitted for testing are now in !
with recent updates / upgrades too :)
for the Latest News & Specials ! click here
The latest technology for your genealogical research, that can quite possibly help aid you in solving many of these problems and others ...
Have you hit a brick wall?
Can't find any documents for that elusive ancestor?
Can't find your ancestor's homeland?
Wondering if you are related to another family with the same surname?
Family Tree DNA is the pioneer and the world's largest DNA company in the new field of genetic genealogy. Your ancestors left clues to your genealogy within you and other descendents. Unlock the clues with DNA testing.
We are currently looking for additional participants to join us. If you would like to join, and or get further info about this exciting gene in Genealogy, that can aid in finding where your lineage possibly connects in with other hdpth's ... feel free to contact us any time ...
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Wouldn't it be interesting to see, that there really is a connection between the descendants of the Carolina - Tennessee hdpth's with those who descend from Virginia - Kentucky, and else where ...
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What about the Hudspeth's and other spelling variant ? Do we all carry the same Y-chromosome that is passed from father to son basically unchanged for generations ...
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How about our connection across the pond ?
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Ladies don't feel left out, you can help us by recruiting participants in your families ... brother, father, grandfather, uncle's and or male cousin's ... any direct "male" hdpth descendants, they are the genetic representative(s) for your family's branch in this project too.
What is the Main Goal of this Y-DNA study group *
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Firstly - we desire to recruit a good cross section of participants from the various spelling variant's that are in existence today.
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Secondly - to prove [or perhaps disprove] that there is definitely a matching Y-chromosome connection between all spelling variants.
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Thirdly - grouping the various participants test results to give a better idea of which lines have a more than likely common ancestor. [even though proof of recorded documented research isn't available just yet].
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Fourthly - shedding light on what areas further research might be looked into for various connections.
* note may be altered and or expanded as resulting data might suggest ...
Special note: for those who would like to share their thoughts, questions and or info on the topic of Y-DNA testing in regards to the surname(s) covered by H*D*P*TH ... please consider joining us and share your comments with us all on this New mailing List at hedgpeth-DNA enter the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject-line ... afterwards a noteworthy Welcome message about the List will be sent to you ...
Note: if your email client is not activated by the link above, the address to subscribe is
hedgpeth-DNA-L-request @ rootsweb.com
remove the space on either side of the @ symbol abovewe tried to name this new mailing List, with the all inclusive name of hdpth-DNA,
but it wasn't accepted ... never the less, all spelling variants are welcome to join us !
The hdpth DNA study group, is open to ALL direct "male" descendants of any of the spelling
variants covered by H*D*P*TH ...
The reason for limited to male's only ... is this study will be comparing 12, 25 and or 37 specific marker's on the Y-chromosome that are being
tested for, which are past from father to son
basically unchanged generation after generation. There could be slight mutations that might occure here and there between various participants ... which are excellent indications of
where various descendants might branch off at ... We will learn more about that when our genetic tree starts to take shape, as more participants come on board :)
If you have any questions about this study. Be sure to drop us an email any time, perhaps you might have a concern that hasn't been touched on
yet ...
For those that we hope will be interested in participating in this project, the test involves rubbing a special cotton swab on the inside cheek of the month [it really is really very painless]
no needles no blood :) all payments, test kits and test results will go through Family Tree DNA
Want to see what's involved in collecting a sample for testing ... check out this site presentation courtesy of the Dorcey-DNA project ...they have posted pictures of each step along the way :)
What does Family Tree DNA testing help provide ?
� Determine if two people are related
� Find out if others with your surname are related
� Determine if two people descended from the same ancestor
� Provide an approximate time frame for the common ancestor
� Confirm your family tree
� Find others to whom you are related
� Determine a possible point of origin for your surname
� Prove or disprove a research theory
� Determine if other surnames are variants of your surname
� For surnames with multiple points of origin, determine the possible points
� Provide clues or solve brick walls
� Identify a location for further research
� Verify ancestors migration
� Verify Native American or Cohanim ancestry
� Provide clues about ethnic origin
For the big question ... How much does it cost ?
Under the special group rate price per participant
through
FamilyTree-DNA are as follows ...
We do realize the price of the testing is a big issue with some folks ... and might prohibit them from participating ... but after examining the cost of genealogical research, how much does one really spend over the years ... Anyone like me who has started before the internet came into common usage, you might have made substantial investments to items such as ...
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the postal service in mailing out countless feeler letters
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fees to the various county recorders and court houses for copies of documents
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financially supporting the copy machines at the local drug store and various libraries
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purchasing the numerous books, magazines and periodicals about county and or family histories
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and the growing supply of vital records and census records that have been transcribed and published
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and then with the semi recent addition of the internet there's a number of online database subscriptions fee's
in most cases, some of these only containing one line that mentions one of our specific ancestor ...
All good info, but some of it might not have been exactly what you or I were searching for and or related to our specific line of research ...
As more participants come on board for this Y-DNA testing and a genetic tree starts to take shape, we all should start to see where our research areas will be more focused in on and exactly were we all descend from :)
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Y-DNA 12 markers - $99 < < < see note on results page
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Y-DNA 25 markers - $159 <<< New price 03-24-06 [brought back and reduced $10 from the original price]
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Y-DNA 37 markers - $189 <<< New price 03-20-06 [was reduced to $219 back in 04-2005, was first offered for $229 back on 12/14/03]
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Y-DNA 67 markers - $269 <<< with NEW panel being offered 03-20-06
* plus $2 US or $4 Int'l. postage to the above prices ...
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Upgrade 12 to 25 markers - $49 <<< New price 03-24-06 [brought back and reduced from original price of $90]
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Upgrade 12 to 37 markers - $99 <<< New price 03-20-06 [was first offered for $149 back on 12/14/03]
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Upgrade 12 to 67 markers - $189 <<< with NEW panel being offered 03-20-06
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Upgrade 25 to 37 markers - $49 <<< New price 03-20-06 [was first offered for $59 back on 12/14/03]
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Upgrade 25 to 67 markers - $148 <<< with NEW panel being offered 03-20-06
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Upgrade 37 to 67 markers - $99 <<< with NEW panel being offered 03-20-06
$99 |
if starting with the 12-marker test kit | ||
| - - > | go from 12 to 25-marker additional $49 (total $148) |
then upgrade to 37-marker additional $49 (total $197) |
then upgrade to 67-marker additional $99 (total $296) |
| - - > | - - > | go from 12 to 37-marker additional $99 (total $198) |
then upgrade to 67-marker additional $99 (total $297) |
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- - > | - - > | go from 12 to 67-marker additional $189 (total $288) |
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if starting with the 25-marker test kit | |
| - - > | - - > | go from 25 to 37-marker additional $49 * $59 (total $208) * $217 |
then upgrade to 67-marker additional $99 (total $307) * $316 |
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- - > | - - > | go from 25 to 67-marker additional $148 (total $307) |
| if starting with the 37-marker test kit | $189 |
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- - > | - - > | then upgrade to 67-marker additional $99 (total $288) |
| or going directly to the 67-marker test kit |
$269 (a $19 to $38 savings) * $47 |
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* a new collection sample is not required for the upgrade tests, as they are run on your previously collected samples that were submitted ... which is available
for up to 25 years,
unless you requested that your sample collection be destroyed after the first initial testing ...
For a limited time while funding is available ... we have a sponsorship fund set up to help those who really want to participate, but can't afford the total cost ... please contact us and perhaps we can work out a deal with you :)
Another option might be ... if you have two or more siblings in your family unit, and at least one being a male, only one male sibling would actually need to participate in the testing and there by, be the representative for your whole family unit. The cost could then be shared and divided by all siblings in your family unit ...
*Special* for participants age 70 plus ...
we will make arrangements to cover half the price of the 25-marker test kit ...
contact us for further details
hey it's a great Father's day gift,
you can still get Dad or Grandpa in on this
and just think X-mas is just around the corner too :)
Note the special posted here is for testing preformed by FamilyTreeDNA
for the Latest News & Specials ! click here
After your test kit sample has been returned to FamilyTree-DNA, and while we a wait the test results [which can take five to seven weeks before being available] ...
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If we don't have an outline of your direct hdpth ancestor's please submit one, as complete as possible i.e. names, dates and locations for each event and for each generation on back as far as you know ...
this info will enable those with matching test results, to get a better idea of where further research might be looked into, if a connection is not yet known ...
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Also be sure you signed and return the release form, so that we can compare the numbers in your test results with other participants in our group study ...
Here are a few noteworthy web sites ...
Those of you who want a deeper understanding from other DNA group studies may find these of interest ... the depth of info varies from site to site ... enjoy !
John Blair DNA Project - DNA 101 Y-Chromosome Testing
Joe Cook - Cook/Cooke/Koch DNA Project
Nancy Custer - Dorsey DNA Project Home Page
Ken Graves - THE GRAVES SURNAME DNA STUDY
E. Ray Hill - HILL Surname DNA Project
James R. Hull - HULL SURNAME DNA STUDY
Harold Johnson - COLONIAL DNA RESEARCH PROJECT
Charles Kerchner - Kerchner Y-DNA Project Home Page
Douglas M. Mumma - MUMMA SURNAME DNA PROJECT
Chris Pomery - DNA PORTAL has loads of data and other info about DNA testing and further links to follow for even more info ... enjoy !
here you can find other surname projects listed ...
as presented by:
World Families Network
Where Genealogy meets DNA testing
and then DNA in the News ...
The Sacramento Bee - [North-Central California] 03 Aug. 2003 DNA helps unscramble the puzzles of ancestry
Hattiesburg American [Southern Mississippi] - February 23, 2003 DNA surname project produces list of possible relatives
FamilyTree DNA - "The World's Only Newsletter Dedicated to Genetic Genealogy" Facts & Genes
a little advertising for some recently published books on DNA in regards to family research ...
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book review from Dick Eastman's On-line
Genealogy Newsletter
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Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in this project, nor do I have any association with FamilyTree-DNA . I am only interested, like others in this group, in furthering our genealogical research, hopefully with your help we will all find that connection that links us together ...
We are aware that some of our cousin's will not be the least bit interested in this or any DNA group study, and other's will have reservations about privacy and confidentiality, and yet other's will have concerns of what medical data will be reviled ... and some might be prohibit due to the cost of participating ...
I would like to direct you to this site Family Tree DNA, which is the company our test kits will come from and the testing will be coordinated through, along with their guidance in helping us in comparing the test results. Please feel free to check out their claims and statements, along with any other sites or references on this topic. Also do not hesitate to contact us about any concerns or questions you might have ... it could be something we hadn't thought about.
Answers to some of the concerns we have heard, can be found here ...
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a blood transfusion in the "past" does not alter your Y-DNA test results
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although FTDNA would prefer that the subject not have had a recent transfusion ...
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chemotherapy or radiation treatment for cancer does not seem to affect DNA testing, but it is recommended that participants wait a couple of months after the last treatment before collecting a sample for testing ... I will question the testing company / Lab, about this further, if it might be something of interest to particular parties ...
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test results of your Y-DNA can not be used to clone you
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no one can steal your personal identity from your Y-DNA test results
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medical info is not revealed from your Y-DNA test results [within the scope of this project] ...
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the Arizona State University is the testing lab who will be performing the test on the DNA sample you submit. They receive no information as to who or where you are ... only a coded number assigned to your sample by FamilyTree-DNA ...
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the markers on the Y-chromosome being tested for are considered to be "junk" genes and have no real value, other than being a somewhat signature of one's paternal lineage ... and the determining factor that an individual was going to be a male child at conception ...
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Insurance companies and Law Enforcement agencies are not interested in your DNA test results through this avenue ... it would be considered as second hand info which is not reliable for their usage ...
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this is not a paternity test, per se, as we are only testing the Y-chromosome
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Test results will indicate if a NPE "non paternity event" might have occurred, or an adoption might have taken place somewhere back in time ... but not when it occurred ... if testing results when compared with a "known" close cousin do indicate this might be an issue ... only your genealogical research and documentation [or recorded events that might have happened around various time frames] will narrow down where this might have occurred ...
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please note: adoptions and he's not your daddy "do" happen ... It's a fact, that our ancestors [as much as some don't want to believe it] they were just as much human by nature as we are today. Some might have experienced permissive life styles, death, famine, manmade or natural disasters, among a number of other events that could have happened to have cause such results ...
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those with concerns and or speculations of such NPE events might not want to participate in this project by their own choice ... but please keep in mind that not all Smith's and or Jones' are genetically related to each other either ... being that when most surnames were adopted in ancient times, they were mostly an indication of an occupation, or a locality [place name that might not exist in the present day] and or with the prefix/suffix indicating son or daughter of so and so ... can you imagine how many bakers, butchers, candle stick makers and farmers are genetically unrelated out there ?
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this might be of interest to some ... example: where a line has daughtered out, and this might have been the last male of that particular line or branch ...
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for those interested, and or find yourself in this sad situation ... a beloved male relative has passed away, before you could have had him tested and participate in our hdpth-DNA project ... Yes post mortem test samples can be collected, although, preferably before the body is embalmed. FTDNA will send you or the designated mortuary a test kit, in next day delivery ...
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please contact them directly for further info, and or to expedite this request, the phone number and contact info can be found at the bottom of that link ...
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I don't want this to sound like a last ditch effort [no pun intended] but once the love one is in the grave [and or cremated] chances of getting a DNA sample to test would be beyond the means of most of us ... i.e. expensive and several legal issues top the list ...
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