Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:35:14 -0700 From: Kenneth Shelton To: HUNT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [HUNT-L] Hunt, John of Crittendon Co. KY Sandy, I had uploaded my family file a couple years ago & it had the error of dropping out the extra "John" in what was a PROVISIONAL linage -- I didn't realize at the time some features of the LDS site: 1) Once you upload, you can't correct -- it is there for infinity (or until the web crashes). No way to recall it, no way to correct it, it just stays there. 2) Although my family file has a large number of notes & explanation text that puts the information in context, none of this gets displayed. They have to put it in a GEDCOM format, which drops / removes just about all the supporting text. While what is shown here is NOT from my posting, as the names differ -- I put in Martha "Patsey" Ellison, not just Patsey Ellison, and at the time I did not know John Hunt's wife's maiden name for sure -- thought it might have been Moore -- it appears that it might be based on my original posting due to the error in my post being repeated. The basis of this linage is as follows and it remains provisional at this time for reasons you will see: 1) Abel C. Hunt is in Smith Co TN. Gersham Hunt JR is on record in Smith Co TN. From land records, Gersham Hunt is also associated with the Agee family. A Power of Attorney recorded in Barren Co, KY on 14 Mar 1815, Robert Hawthorne of Barren Co, KY, Attorney in Fact for Gersham Hunt of Smith County, TN of the one part and James Kelsey of Barren Co, KY of the other part, for $160 sells 56 acres of land. Description follows. Also, an announcement in the Carthage Gazette in 1816 for lands on which taxes are overdue includes Gersham Hunt for land on Brush Creek. From the county records, both Abel C. and John Hunt were living in Brush Creek at this time. A deed from Smith Co, TN for Daniel Agee of 8 July 1817, proved 11 Aug 1817, 33 acres on Hickman's Creek, south side of the Cumberland River to Elias Gwaltney, was witnessed by James Thomas, Absalom Cox and Gersham Hunt. Daniel was a resident of Madison County, Mississippi Territory (later Madison Co, Alabama). 1820 census shows them in neighboring Limestone Co, AL & later in neighboring Lauderdale Co, AL. Lastly, on 26 Feb 1825, the estate of Yancey Hallman was entered, Little B. Hughes, Leander Hughes and Josiah Baird commissioners. William B. Elgin & Sally Hallman executors. Notes and accounts were held for the year 1819 on William Tyre, James Elgin, G(ersham) Hunt, J. Baird, J. Elison, Mrs. E. Martin and William B. Elgin. These records put Gersham Hunt JR multiple times in the same families as Abel C. Hunt. 2) The estate suit of Abel C. Hunt contains a deposition by Edward Atwood, who was the brother of Isaac Newton Atwood, husband of Hannah Hunt (dau of Abel C. Hunt). So, Abel was Edward's brother's father-in-law. The deposition relates to the fact that in or about the year 1838 through to at least 1842, Abel C., his wife Elizabeth, at least one daughter, were practicing members of the Mormon Church and held services at their house. Edward states that the "Mormon Preacher Daniel Hunt, a cousin of old Abel,..." was present and leading the services. From the LDS records, a short diary covering a few months of his missionary work in Kentucky in the 1840's still exists. Also, Daniel and his family were signers of the Mormon Petition for Redress over losses incurred during the Mormon War in Missouri, when the Governor illegally evicted the Mormon settlers from western Missouri. Thirdly, Daniel is on the Navoo, IL tax lists and followed Brigham Young to Deseret -- where he is enumerated on the 1850 Utah census. His full name was Daniel Durham Hunt. He is alleged as the son of Abel Hunt, the older Abel who was son of Dr. Daniel and brother to Gersham JR. It is a fact, from his will, that Abel had a son Daniel. It is a fact, from the Barren Co, KY tax lists that this son Daniel was born around 1798-1800. Unfortunately, after making out his will, Abel then began to settle incrementally with all his children. A series of deeds record his settlements with those from his 2nd marriage and most of those from his 1st marriage. His sons Oliver, Noah, and Daniel, although present on earlier tax lists in Barren Co, are gone by the time he starts doing this. These were executed prior to his death & a couple more were verified after his death by his administrator, wife Elizabeth. One son was named Alexander. Although there is circumstantial evidence for Daniel being Abel's son, it is still inconclusive. I have been looking for an obituary or some other contemporary document that would tie the Daniel, son of Abel, as being Daniel Durham Hunt. The name "Durham", of course, comes from Elder Thomas Durham, Minister of the Jersey Baptist Church from 5 Jan 1793 until 10 Oct 1812. Thomas Durham moved to Smith Co TN in 1812. 3) Abel C. Hunt's sons were named Gersham, John, Daniel, Alexander, Levi Bethel and Doctor Wiseman G. Hunt. Daniel Durham Hunt's sons were named John Alexander, James Wiseman, Levi Bunyan, Abel Moroni, and Gersham Alma as well as others Mormon-related (Benoni Smith, Mormon Brigham). Thus, it is proven, based on an eye-witness to the events, that the Mormon Daniel Hunt and Abel C. Hunt are related as cousins. The unusual religious connection of Mormonism at a time when it was very rare in the Tennessee area makes it highly unlikely that there were two Mormon Preacher Daniel Hunts (Preacher being the interpretation of what Southern Baptists of the time would call them -- they themselves never claimed to be ordained ministers, but were missionaries of the church -- the church elders were the people who were what would be called "officially ordained"). The LDS records only record one Daniel Hunt in this timeframe in this area -- Daniel Durham Hunt -- and he is extremely well documented as being such. The circumstantial evidence points to the Rowan Co, NC group as the source. Unfortunately, it is not known when & where Gersham Hunt JR died, so no estate record has been located. Also, I have not been able to obtain an obituary or other contemporary record on Daniel Durham Hunt to conclusively put him as the same as the older Abel's son Daniel. Now, the attribution of John Hunt comes from family word as far as I am aware. Although I don't have any real problem with the idea that John and Abel C. are brothers, unfortunately I have not seen anything in the way of proof of this -- although there is an extensive amount of circumstantial evidence and I would have to concede that they are directly related in some way (the odds that they would just gravitate together for such an extensive amount of time so closely doesn't seem to be by chance, but the age difference is such that they could be cousins, uncle-nephew, and even removed by a generation from each other). This is still very much in work -- hence Edger's post! Sincerely, Ken Shelton -----Original Message----- From: sbh3 [mailto:sbh3@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:48 AM To: HUNT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HUNT-L] Hunt, John of Crittendon Co. KY 1. JOHN5 HUNT (GERSHOM4, DR. DANIEL3, JOHN2, RALPH1) was born July 13, 1798 in North Carolina (Rowan Co.?), and died April 29, 1884 in Crittendon Co., Kentucky. He married (1) ELIZABETH ALLEN Bef. 1821. He married (2) SARAH PARIS June 07, 1866 in Crittenden Co., Kentucky, daughter of OBADIAH PARIS and PATSEY ELLISON. Children of JOHN HUNT and ELIZABETH ALLEN are: ***The above is a portion of a response to Edgar Hunt's posting looking for the father of JOHN-5. The children and body of message not shown, look correct--but look at the top. The pedigree line is incorrect. There is no such pedigree.. John 2 was not the father of Dr. Daniel, Another JOHN ,son of John -2 is missing, thus the pedigree line is incorrect. It's obviously somone's guess and the wrong GERSHOM. I wish I knew which GERSHOM\Gershum was JOHN's father.. These are the types of errors that make life hard and bring to the fore material that was copied from someone else without checking. Now don't anyone get upset-it happens all the time! Ya gota be meticulous. Happy Valentines Day!! Sandy Hunt Lubbock ==== HUNT Mailing List ==== The HUNT Document Archives: