Subj: Re: Lott genealogy
Date: 06/04/97
To: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil
In a message dated 97-05-14 07:43:01 EDT, you write:
<< I am compiling a listing of Lotts descended from John Lott (ca1720) and Elizabeth Joyner (Bethany). I am interested in all Lott information so I would ask: >>
Dan, attached is a manuscript that I am preparing on the early southern Lott family. It is not completed and I would very much like a reveiw and critique of it from Lott researchers such as yourself. Please do not pass it to others, however, till I get it published.
John Barron
Date: 06/04/97
To: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil
In a message dated 97-05-14 07:43:01 EDT, you write:
<< I noticed you request for information about Abraham Lott and this piqued by interest. I am compiling a listing of Lotts descended from John Lott (ca1720) and Elizabeth Joyner (Bethany). I am interested in all Lott information so I would ask: Have you found any information on Abraham?
My information on Arthur Lott is scarce. Below are the children I think belong to him. Is this list correct? Are there additional children? >>
Dan, I am attaching my descendant chart starting with John Lott and Elizabeth Joyner. It is not completely up to date, however. Are any of them ever. ;-) You can read the chart into your word processor such as Word Perfect and use a non-proportional font such as Courier 16.6 to print it.
I don't know anything about Abraham. I was replying to a message about him.
Date: 06/04/97
To: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil
In a message dated 97-06-04 13:43:07 EDT, you write:
<< Thanks for the info. I don't have word perfect and my Microsoft office Word will only read word perfect 5.0 files. What version of word perfect are you using. Once I get your documents translated, will get back to you. Meanwhile here's a Lott history I wrote as an introduction into the family book I am about to publish. I'll also ask that you not pass it on until I get it in print. Enjoy and I, too, solicit your comments, critiques, etc. Am anxious to get a look at your ancestors chart. Did I provide you my lineage? >>
Thanks for the quick reply. I use WP6 for Win. I have saved the file in WP5 format and attached it to this message. Hope it works better for you. Thanks a lot (no pun) for the history file. Maybe we can help each other get a handle on this great family. The ancestor chart is ascii and can be read with anything, of course. John
Date: 06/05/97
To: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil
In a message dated 97-06-05 03:16:50 EDT, you write:
<< For instance, tell your software to search for Daniel or Lott, Daniel or Daniel Lott and see what you get. Everytime I get new info, I add it to the file. >>
Dan, I have been doing the very same thing for a year or so only I have it in RDF which is the event data base distributed with PAF. You can sort and focus RDF in many different ways and it help a bunch. These are tremendous projects and should go a long way toward locating missing pieces of the Lott puzzle. Also by using sources such as these (deeds, wills, ect) it should help us get rid of much of the legendary information that continues to plague Lott history. Such as Indian ancestry which I think is mostly a "crock".
We do need to scrupulously <sp?> cite sources, however, in order to be able to resolve discrepancies. For instance we differ on the important item of the household of John Lott Sr in his land grants of 1764/5. Two secondary sources that I have show no wife listed, while you showed a wife. I haven't seen the original document.
I saw where you had the Absalom Lott (who married Canzada Burt) as a son of Luke. I have been searching for this info and have seen him variously assigned to different fathers. His compatriot, Abram Lott, who was in Smith Co., TX, and married Eliza? Hope, I believe was a son of Arthur Lott (b 1788) and settled in Smith Co. That Arthur is my ancestor. I have a paper on this connection that I can send.
Well, got to go now. I'm getting a new computer today and have to get my computer area ready. It's got a P200 cpu and should last me awhile. I'm having a little trouble translating your Mac files into mine, but so far so good. My fishing trip to the coast with my old boss was fun, but we only caught a few fish. I did catch a 23" speckled trout on his new rig. Later, John
Date: 06/06/97
To: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil
Dan, thanks for sending your book and assorted Lott materials. I can see you have been working on this a long time. I am particularly impressed with the information that you have accumulated from early Virginia. You mentioned the Mary Lott who bought several pieces of property in Isle of Wight and adjacent counties. Have you seen the document which shows her, named as Mary Lett, with sons Edward, John, and Arthur? This seems like a very important item comparable to the one you found concerning John Lott in conjunction with a Hatton. I put a lot of stock in these type of records.
I'm still going through the book, guess I'm going to have to print it to really get the most from it. I'm in the process of getting a new computer and am rather topsy turvy at the moment. Talk to ya later. John
Date: 06/15/97
To: grg@iname.com
In a message dated 97-06-15 01:53:40 EDT, you write:
<< My Great grandmother's death certificate says that her father was John Lott. I would like to confirm this by establishing what happened to Solomon Lott's daughter Anna.>>
Gerald, thank you so much for your Lott messages. I think we are finally putting together the pieces of this terrific puzzle. At least we're getting all the sky and edges located. ;-) Over the last 20 years, I have accumulated a vast collection of Lott family data going back to the 1650s in VA. For the last year I have concentrated practically all my research time on this line and have written several papers on them--attached is one of them.
Now to the identity of Anna Lott who married William Thorn. I feel sure you have uncovered the basic evidence that all of us have missed: her death certificate. Although birth information on a death certificate is here say, in the absence of other data it's the best available. Other Lott researchers that I know (Sue Miklas, Wayne Page, Andrew Leath, and myself) have all assigned Anna to Solomon J. Lott. You have the first real evidence to the contrary that her father was Solomon's brother, John James Lott.
Robert Witt in his book, Under the Starry Corss, said that John J. Lott returned from the military in March, 1865, to his wife and 3 children. He had 3 children on the 1860 census, but whether they were the same is speculation. As I'm sure you know, neither Anna was with her family in the 1870 census which produces the problem. Solomon stayed in Smith Co., but I don't know what happened to J.J. Lott (I think he went to Oklahoma Terr.). Is there any probate records for Solomon in Smith Co.? If so that would help eliminate him as the father.
Let's keep working on this problem. I don't know where you live (please send me your address), but I have access to all the census data, tax rolls, birth and death indices, Civil War Pensions, etc. here at the Texas State Library. I don't have access to Smith Co. records, though, unless I make a trip to Tyler, but that's not out of the question. I would love to exchange Lott data with you. I have used PAF since it first came out, but have now transferred all my data to The Master Genealogist. I would be glad to send you a gedcom when I get it all ready in the new formats.
John C. Barron
510 E. Braker Lane
Austin, TX 78753
Date: 07/26/97
To: grg@iname.com
Hi Gerald, Well you are so right about death certificates. According to the genealogical rules of evidence, anything not concerned with the death part of the certificate is hearsay. I wouldn't give up too soon, however, on John Lott being Anna Thorn's father. You will find that much of what is "known" about the Lott family is really family legends and not backed up by solid evidence.
To my knowledge, Arthur Lott of Smith County had no sons. I've seen the assertion from Wayne Page about the son Arthur, but do not know where he came up with this. Arthur Lott was in Leake Co., MS, in 1840 listed on page 30 of the census as A. Lott. His household consisted of the following: 1 male age 40-49, 3 females under 5, 2 females 5-10, and 1 female 30-39. He owned 14 slaves. The ages of the girls are somewhat off, maybe copied in the wrong column
Arthur's oldest daughter, Nancy Ann [sic, it was Mary] Lott was married to Everett E. Lott and they were on the same census as E. Lott with household as follows: 1 male age 20-29, and 1 female age 15-19. Her mother was Elizabeth Watts, daughter of Thomas Watts. Thomas Watts died in Smith Co.
I think that Arthur's father was the Arthur killed by the Indians in 1812 in the Mississippi Territory. The older Arthur was a rich and prominent man who served many years in the Georgia General Assembly (state legislature). To think that such a man would (or even could from a societal standpoint) openly take up with an Indian woman is ridiculous. In colonial Georgia, a white woman delivered of a child of mixed blood (black OR Indian) was subject to being placed in indentured servitude. Old Wayne is looking at it with some rose colored glasses and not his East Texas common sense.
All of this stuff about Indian blood is nothing more than the result of several turn of the century, self serving scams intended to acquire Indian lands in Oklahoma. They were all rejected at the time. There is no contemporary (prior to 20th century) evidence concerning Indian blood. Indeed there is much to the contrary with evidence about Indian atrocities and depredations in Georgia and Mississippi. I prefer to work with the real evidence and let this type of legendary information go.
I would like to include your e-mail address in my Lott on-line circle. Let me know if you don't wish to receive Lott updates and I'll take you off. It might work out to a pretty good way to circulate information. John
Date: 07/27/97
To: Kerrygmo
Kerry, I am trying to start a Lott on-line research group. Would you like to be included?
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 07/27/97
To: ETIENNETB
I am trying to start a Lott on-line research group. Would you like to be included.
John Barron, Austin, Tx
Date: 07/27/97
To: AubreyV
Aubrey, I am trying to start a Lott on-line research group. Would you like to be included.
John Barron, Austin, Tx
Date: 07/27/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu ('Lucy'), DLBU67A@prodigy.com ('Lloyd Lott'),
dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil ('Dan Lott'), grg@iname.com ('G Gallegher'), eagle5152@aol.com ('Dee
Lott'), mil2rock@aol.com, kae1995@aol.com ('Kaye'), aubreyv@aol.com ('Aubrey Vickers')
Hello fellow Lott researchers. This is the first in what I hope will be a long series of on-line Lott research notes. I have assembled into a small group of those people who have contacted me about the southern Lott family in the last year. I don't know all their names, some just went by a handle. If any of you have additional contacts which would like to be included please let me know. If you wish to be taken off the list let me know that too. If each of you will replace your name with mine in a list in your software, we can each send group messages. Here goes.
In 1960 Judge Folks Huxford, editor of the series of books entitled "Pioneers of Wiregrass Country," notarized Francis Blitch's application to join the DAR on John Lott, Jr. He later wrote that the Lotts moved to South Carolina during the Revolutionary War when Georgia was overrun by Tories (persons loyal to Great Britain). This statement has been quoted and requoted a thousand times till it has because "fact." I never believed it, however, because I felt that the Lotts were, for the most part, Tories themselves. I have now found a piece of evidence that completely supports this conclusion.
Like most research finds, it brings up as many new questions as it answers. Mary Petersen wrote a series of articles in the "Louisiana Genealogical Register" in 1971-2 concerning land petitions in British West Florida. Those people on the lists who came after 1775 were all Tories and were required to make an oath to England to obtain land. In June, 1984, she wrote a follow-up to these lists entitled "British West Florida Abstracts of Land Petition from the Mobile-Pensacola-Tombigbee-Biloxi Area." Our old friends, John Lott "Senior" and "Junior", who are supposed to be fighting in South Carolina, are on this list as follows:
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John Lott, Sr. - 10 Dec 1776. 250 acres in family right on the west side of Tombecky [Tombigbee] River 110 miles above Mobile. He stated that he had come from Georgia on the 10th of October, 1775. On the 22 January 1778, his widow Emile state that her husband had died and she was partitioning for 72 acres or therabouts on the Tombecky River, and 80 acres was granted to the daughter of the deceased above Mobile.
John Lott, Jr. - 22 January 1778. 300 acres on the west side of Tombecky River about 105 miles above Mobile.
John Low (Lott?) - 16 September 1777. 300 acres in family right and 100 acres bounty on Tombecky River on the west side. Said he had a wife and 3 children and that they had entered the Province from Georgia in the fall of 1776.
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Please send me your reactions to the above. Which Sr. and Jr. are we dealing with here? Who the heck is Emile (Emily?, Amelia?). How 'bout them Tories?
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 08/03/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu ('Lucy'), DLBU67A@prodigy.com ('L Lott'),
dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com ('G Gallegher'), mil2rock, kerrygmo,
bellmer@narrows.com ('Merle')
I've tried to send several of these out, but not sure if they were actually sent as I got no feedback. Is anybody there? John Barron
Date: 08/03/97
To: bellmer@narrows.com
Thanks, Dot. I guess it's working now. Hope to send some more Lott stuff soon. John
Date: 08/03/97
To: Kerrygmo
Thanks, this may be a very important link in the Lott family. Williams was a name associated with
Lotts all the back to NC and maybe earlier. Where was your Williams located. John
Date: 08/03/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu ('Lucy'), DLBU67A@prodigy.com ('L Lott'),
dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com ('G Gallegher'), mil2rock, kerrygmo,
bellmer@narrows.com ('Merle')
The following is information from Kerry
Here is the information I have: Ann Lott married to William Williams in 1770. She was born in 1752 and he was born in 1751. I have no actual proof to verify these dates.
Date: 97-08-03 21:39:08 EDT
From: Kerrygmo
To: JBarron933
John, Here is a copy of what I sent you. I guess you did not receive it.
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John, I would like to be included but unfortunately, I only have one Lott name. This line is actually in my wife's family line. Here is the information I have:
Ann Lott married to William Williams in 1770. She was born in 1752 and he was born in 1751. I have no actual proof to verify these dates.
Please include me if it will help me develop this line.
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Thanks,
Kerry Girolamo
Groves, Texas
Date: 08/03/97
To: grg@iname.com
Thanks Gerald, do you mind if I send your latest message to the Lott Circle group?
Yes, you are right about Mary Ann Lott being E.E. Lott's wife. The Arthur and Nancy Ann (Elizabeth} are grandchildren of Arthur Lott. They were named and given slaves in his will written on the day he died.
I've written a paper on whether Arthur Lott was the father of Abram and Absalom Lott, and think that he was the father of Abram. And I think that the Nancy Ann was the daughter of Abram. Elizabeth Smith, widow of Arthur, was named guardian of this Nancy.
The only Arthur born by 1854 that I know of was the son of E.E. Lott. I guess he was the one mentioned in the will. E.E. Lott petitioned as his guardian a few years later, which seems strange.
I need to revise my paper some and will send you a copy when finished. John
Date: 08/04/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu ('Lucy'), DLBU67A@prodigy.com ('L Lott'),
dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com ('G Gallegher'), mil2rock, kerrygmo,
bellmer@narrows.com ('Merle')
Kerry wrote:
I have no exact location for William and Ann. Their son Simon Williams was born in 1775 in Bulloch Co., GA and he died in Rankin Co. Mississippi. I also have that William Williams died in Mississippi. Sorry, this is all I have.
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Thanks, Kerry, this is good stuff. Many sons were attributed to the John Lotts of Edgecombe Co., NC, but few daughters. Ann may fit in this picture. Certainly the Williams family was associated with them at that time and there was a Simon Lott in SC who may have been related.
Dan, I don't know what to make of the info from Tombigbee either. Was hoping you would figure it out. Good luck on your assignment and your mail box should be stuffed when you get back.
Date: 97-08-04 07:34:44 EDT
From: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil (Dan Lott)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I did receive the information on the Lotts at Tombigbee. Frankly, I don't yet know what to make of it. Concerning the info on Ann Lott from Kerry. Who is this Ann Lott supposed to be? Where was she married?
I am getting ready to leave shortly to go out of the country for two months. I leave 18 Aug and return about 4 Oct. I won't be able to get in touch during that period but would appreciate any info that you send. My e-mail will hold it for me. Dan Lott
Date: 97-08-03 22:13:26 EDT
From: Kerrygmo
To: JBarron933
John, I have no exact location for William and Ann. Their son Simon Williams was born in 1775 in Bulloch Co., GA and he died in Rankin Co. Mississippi. I also have that William Williams died in Mississippi. Sorry, this is all I have. Kerry
Date: 97-08-09 00:24:33 EDT
From: POWELLJP7
To: JBarron933
DO YOU HAVE ANY RECORD OF MATHILDA "HULDA" LOT B. May 11,1806 <Ireland> d. July 22, 1894 Bazette, Navarro, TX. Lived in Chickesaw co., MS with Husband James Nichols b. 1796 <Scotland>. Thanks. John
Date: 08/09/97
To: POWELLJP7
No, not off hand, but I'll see what I can find. I work on the Lott family and I'm from Navarro Co. My Lotts were from MS before coming to Texas in the 1840s. Never heard of any being born in Ireland. John Barron
Date: 97-08-10 02:06:31 EDT
From: POWELLJP7
To: JBarron933
This is from a book on Chickesaw co. compiled by local residents. "James Nichols was born in Scotland in 1796. Mathilda Nichols was born in Ireland on May 11, 1806. Her family came to America when she was 3 years old. James and Mathilda were married in 1825. They were the parents of five boys and two girls. The girls were educated at Columbus Mississippi and taught school in the states before the Civil War...
I was born in Corsicana. My Mother is from Kerens. I'd be intersted in what you know about the Lotts in MS or before. Thanks John Powell
Date: 97-08-10 13:15:19 EDT
From: MIL2ROCK
To: JBarron933
re: MATHILDA HULDA LOTT
I don't have anything at this time--I'm a beginner on the Lott's, but I have a family member in MS joining in with my daughter & myself that may feed us all...
I'm forwarding your e-mail to her in hopes she's got something...Good hunting and keep in touch....Ethel
Date: 08/10/97
To: POWELLJP7
Do you have census data on the Nichols? County histories such as, perhaps, the one you cited are called "Mug Books" by genealogists and normally are not reliable sources. There are exceptions, of course. Let me know where they lived during census years and I'll try to locate them if you don't have such info.
My father was born in Powell, TX, (a few miles south of Kerens) and his family was from Kerens/Wadeville area too. I work on the following families from that area: Barron, McClung, Massey, Selman, and others. Where are you located? I'll try and get some Lott data together for you. John Barron, Austin, TX
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I did a search through my Lott listing and found nothing on James Nichols. Since they married before 1850, tracking them won't be easy. In fact, I haven't researched Chickasaw Co, MS at all. I do know that there are several Lott families who came into north MS who, apparently, aren't related at all. I've heard that there were some "Irish" Lotts (there was a John Lott who left a will in Ireland, early on) but Ireland is another area I haven't researched.
This Lott circle certainly is complicated, is it not? Dan
Date: 08/11/97
To: POWELLJP7
I sent your query through my Lott on-line group, the Lott Circle, and got the following response from Dan Lott.
I did a search through my Lott listing and found nothing on James Nichols. Since they married before 1850, tracking them won't be easy. In fact, I haven't researched Chickasaw Co, MS at all. I do know that there are several Lott families who came into north MS who, apparently, aren't related at all. I've heard that there were some "Irish" Lotts (there was a John Lott who left a will in Ireland, early on) but Ireland is another area I haven't researched.
This Lott circle certainly is complicated, is it not? John
Date: 97-08-12 01:54:04 EDT
From: POWELLJP7
To: JBarron933
ON THE 1830 census James Nichols is in Monroe co., MS in 1840 he is in Lowndes co. and in 1850 in Chickesaw, On the 1850 census his place of birth is listed as NC and Mathilda Lotts as SC. (which contradicts the Irish statement) She died in Navarro county and is buried at Bazette Baptist Cemetery with her son Rufus Alexander Nichols and his wife Barbara Ann Marshall.
I know nothing about the Lots and have just started on my Mother's family. I have been researching more on my Father's. Since I don't know who her Parent's were I haven't really begun to look at the Lott's.
I just signed on and got your latest message. I am in Houston for a couple of weeks. Most of the research I have done was in New York where I have been living for the past year. I found the "Mug" book in the Waco Library. My Grandparents lived in Powell very nearby as my Mother went to first grade there. John
Date: 97-08-16 06:05:54 EDT
From: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Daddy, I think I have seen several female LOTTs (confound this weird keyboard!) in the female index to the DAR indexes. But I don't have access to them to check right now. Love, Lucy
Date: 09/03/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu ('Lucy'), DLBU67A@prodigy.com ('LLott'),dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com ('G Gallegher'), mil2rock, kerrygmo,
bellmer@narrows.com ('Merle')
John Lott, along with supposed brothers Robert A., Dr. Arthur J., and Jesse came to Texas in 1835 from the Florida Territory. John and Robert established an inn in the town of Washington On the Brazos which became the seat of provisional power when the Anglo settlers revolted against the Mexican government that fall.
A call for help to assist in the struggle, resulted in a torrent of volunteers from the United States. The following documents from the Audited Claims of the Republic of Texas (reel 62) show that John Lott provided aid to some of these men on their way to the conflict.
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Washington, 23 January 1836. This is to certify that John Lott furnished myself and four other volunteers on our way to the army with accomadations for our selves & horses. The government will pay him $7 - 50 cts. David Crockett
Washington, 23 January 1836. This is to certify that John Lott furnished myself & Mr. Kerr & two horses on our way to the Army of Texas for Four dollars which governmt will pay. Wm. B. Harrison, Cap.
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Crockett and Harrison, of course, fell at the Battle of the Alamo. Shortly afterward, the Lott brothers were forced to abandon their property and flee eastward as Santa Anna pursued Sam Houston's army. They returned to re-establish the inn shortly after the Battle of San Jacinto.
Who were these Lott brothers? Were they the younger of the sets of children named by the two John Lotts who left legal documents in Washington Co., Miss. Territory before 1810? The names fit.
John Barron
Date: 09/26/97
To: JNewton339
CC: JMorris811
If the SAR knew what I know about John Lott there wouldn't be anyone else going in on him. He and his sons, except William Lott and perhaps Arthur, were Torries who fled GA to British West Florida (now MS) in 1776. John Lott, father and son, received a royal grant at that time from George III. After the Rev. War they returned to SC and made claims against the state. These frivolous claims were used by naive ancestors as proof of service in the war to join the DAR and SAR. I would, however, like to receive any information that you collect on the family.
Date: 09/26/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu ('Lucy'), DLBU67A@prodigy.com ('L Lott'),
dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com ('G Gallegher'), mil2rock, kerrygmo,
bellmer@narrows.com ('Merle'),jmorris811
Received the following concerning John Lott
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Source: Membership Directory, SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
WILLIAMS, Joseph D., 97397, St Augustine, Florida; John Lott Sold, South Carolina; 220 N. Whitney St, St Augustine, FL 32095, 904 824 2631, b. Retired.
97397 is Joseph's National SAR number. A copy can be purchased for $3.00. National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution, 1000 South Fourth St, Louisville, KY 40203. Attn: Registrar General. Make check to Treasurer General NSSAR. I believe that John Lott recieved a land grant in Ga.- will look it up in a week or so.
Date: 97-10-01 11:06:18 EDT
From: petibonel@aol.com (Petibone)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (JBarron93)
John Lott was born about 1742 in Duplin County, N.C. Is son of John Lott and Bethany Joyner. That is far as I am.
Date: 10/01/97
To: petibonel@aol.com
In a message dated 97-10-01 11:06:18 EDT, you write:
<< John Lott was born about 1742 in Duplin County, N.C. Is son of John Lott and Bethany Joyner. That is far as I am. >>
Thanks for your response. Yes, this is the "party line" first put forward by Frances Blitch in her DAR application in 1960, but upon deeper examination we find more than a few holes in her arguments. For one thing, she purported that John Lott "Jr" was a revolutionary soldier when in fact he was a tory loyal to the British and had left GA due to the revolution and relocated in British West Florida in 1776.
I have formed a group of on-line Lott researchers that correspond with each other concerning recent findings. Would you like me to add your name to the list? John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 97-10-02 12:41:26 EDT
From: PetiboneL
To: JBarron933
Thank you so much for your reply. Yes please place me on your list. I am surprised to find a tory. You have done some very good research. I can't wait to tell my mother about this. I live in N.J. now and she is still in Ga. She does my courthouse work. I was back to Mark Lott and had been told of John, son of John of Duplin County. About the same time I received NGS Newsletter Vol 23 Number 4, July/August and on page 138 there is a query as to John Lott b. 1742 Duplin County. This query by MariLee Hageness of Anniston, Al. It gave a good bit of information that seemed to fit what I had been told. I entered it in my FTM genealogy program in part and removed it after getting your e-mail. I will save it in paper form , but don't want to add errors to my computer files. I spent most of last evening trying to copy and paste my line to this e-mail only to find out that FTM 4.0 won't let me do it. I can print out and send you paper copy on the Ga. Lotts if you want it. I am not new to genealogy, but am new to the computer. Once winter sets in and and the days shorten I will figure out how to send a GEDCOM. One question I would like to ask is the John Lott father of Mark, the son of John Lott of Duplin County, N.C. This long distance research can get out of hand , and I would not want to start ordering records for this area if this is in error. I was about to order fiche from the AGLL and may want to change my plans. Any direction you could give me on this would be appreciated. Judy
Date: 10/02/97
To: PetiboneL
In a message dated 97-10-02 12:41:26 EDT, you write:
<< One question I would like to ask is the John Lott father of Mark, the son of John Lott of Duplin County, N.C. >>
Thanks, Judy. I have corresponded with MaryLee, but she hasn't got back with me lately. I think she is a generation off on some of her work. I hope we can work together and figure out some of these Lott puzzles.
John Lott "Sr" and Mark both got land grants in St. George's Parish, Georgia, in the 1760's. Mark then went just across the line to S.C. and got land there next to Jesse Lott. Jesse was later hanged as a Tory along with James Lott. The John Lott "Jr" supposedly born 1742 in Edgecombe (later Duplin) Co., NC, was a son of the above John Sr. I think the Mark and Jesse (and several others) were brothers of the John Sr. I'm working on a paper to present my evidence and conclusions about this group.
There is much misinformation about the Lotts. It's due to the lack of records for the areas that they lived I suppose. What I have tried to do is throw out all the previous speculated lineages which have been quoted and requoted a thousand times and reassemble it using only documentable evidence. John
Date: 97-10-03 18:25:11 EDT
From: grg@iname.com (Gerald R Gallagher)
To: JBarron933@aol.com ('JBarron933@aol.com')
John Please send the following information to Judy as I do not know which is her email address in the list.
Judy, I have FTM 4.0 also and I can tell you two different ways to include FTM information in your email easily. The first way incorporates your information in the body of the email and it can be read by anyone regardless of how old their email system is. The second way attaches a word processing file to the email but I have found some people using older versions of the browser or older versions of the email software can not read attached files.
To incorporate information in an email as part of the body of the message:
1. In FTM, create a genealogy report for the branch of your tree that you want to send out to others. You can do this with the tool bar icon for the genealogy report or select View and genealogy report in the FTM command line. You can also vary the number of generations included from the Contents command with the option # of Generations to Show.
2. Once you have the report in the form you want it with the number of generations you want, use the Edit command with the option Copy Genealogy Report. ( When I do this it is so fast that it seems like nothing happens but in fact a copy of the report has been put on your clipboard.)
3. You can close FTM if you want to or you can leave it up.
4. Start your email system and create a new email message. Enter the address and the subject and any message you want. When you are ready to include the information from the Genealogy Report, use the Paste command and your information will be copied from the clipboard to your message.
5. Send your message.
To attach the Genealogy Report as a file:
Steps 1, 2, and 3 are the same.
4. Start up your word processor ( I use Works). Create a new document. Use the Paste command to incorporate the Genealogy Report into the document. Save the document under a name that you can remember.
5. Start up your email system. Create a new message. Address it and include any message you want. At the end, use the Insert File command (on my system this has a paper clip as an icon for the command) to attach the file you saved to the message. You will need to know the name you used to save the file in order to attach it.
6. Send the email.
I will be happy to help you if you have any problems with this. Gerald Gallagher
Date: 97-10-03 20:42:01 EDT
From: PetiboneL
To: JBarron933
Hi John, Just wanted to thank you for the information on the Lotts. Probably sounds crazy, but finally an ancestor that has done something exciting. Most of my lines have turned out to have been rather simple living folk. Many having been RS, and family members are in DAR, thank goodness not on this line. Not that I would have wished hanging on anyone, but it lends some color to an otherwise mundane history. This family in Georgia like many seemed to name children after other family members and there must be 3 or 4 of each given name to sort through. Most of my Georgia lines at some point or other have lots of Lotts. My Lott line is married into both of my separate Davis lines. Sometimes even multiple siblings. I usually tell people that I am my own cousin. I also have Lotts in my Wilson line, and many lines that married into my lines had Lotts in them. I am sure of my data back to Mark and will begin to work back from there. I have a good library at home both CD and books. Come Monday morning I'll get started. Will keep in touch. Judy
Date: 97-10-05 13:50:23 EDT
From: PetiboneL
To: JBarron933
Hi John, Thanks for forwarding the e-mail. Now I see how this works. received two more this AM. Judy
Date: 97-10-05 22:58:19 EDT
From: grg@iname.com (Gerald R Gallagher)
To: JBarron933@aol.com ('JBarron933@aol.com')
Dear John; In case you have not been to the DRT Library at the Alamo, there is a descendants file for the Lotts of Washington County in a file that includes a hand written family tree. Since I have been unable to establish a connection between these Lotts and my ancestors around Smith and Harrison Counties, I did not make copies of the file. You could request a copy of the file through the DRT Library web site. They can be very helpful. Gerald Gallagher
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From: JBarron933@aol.com[SMTP:JBarron933@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 1997 4:34 PM
To: grg@iname.com
Subject: Re: Lott Circle
Thanks, Gerald, done. Her's is the last one in the list: petibonl. I've been working lately trying to figure out who the Lotts of Austin and Washington Co., TX were. John
Date: 10/05/97
To: rlindley@aisi.net
What happened to the widow Celia MILLER LOTT and the children of John LOTT after he was killed by the Indians 1842-6? I've never been able to find any of them on a census. Is there a probate proceeding for him in Montogmery Co.? Was Dr. Arthur J. Lott his son? I have found one of her children by her previous marriage to Andrew MILLER, but they seemed to have left the are too about this time.
Date: 97-10-08 08:45:59 EDT
From: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil (Dan Lot)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I have just yesterday returned from two months temporary duty in Europe. Only now going through my e-mail. I've got some information on these Lotts (they're an interesting bunch) that I will dig out and send to you but it may take a week on so. I've got quite a bit of brush fires at work and I have to get back into the 9 to 5 routine again.
Will definitely get back to you as soon as I can. Dan
>John Lott, along with supposed brothers Robert A., Dr. Arthur J., and Jesse
>came to Texas in 1835 from the Florida Territory. John and Robert
>established an inn in the town of Washington On the Brazos which became the
>seat of provisional power when the Anglo settlers revolted against the
>Mexican government that fall.
>
>A call for help to assist in the struggle, resulted in a torrent of
>volunteers from the United States. The following documents from the Audited
>Claims of the Republic of Texas (reel 62) show that John Lott provided aid to
>some of these men on their way to the conflict.
>
>===============================
>
>Washington, 23 January 1836. This is to certify that John Lott furnished
>myself and four other volunteers on our way to the army with accomadations
>for our selves & horses. The government will pay him $7 - 50 cts. David
>Crockett
>
>Washington, 23 January 1836. This is to certify that John Lott furnished
>myself & Mr. Kerr & two horses on our way to the Army of Texas for Four
>dollars which governmt will pay. Wm. B. Harrison, Cap.
>
>================================
>
>Crockett and Harrison, of course, fell at the Battle of the Alamo. Shortly
>afterward, the Lott brothers were forced to abandon their property and flee
>eastward as Santa Anna pursued Sam Houston's army. They returned to
>re-establish the inn shortly after the Battle of San Jacinto.
>
>Who were these Lott brothers? Were they the younger of the sets of children
>named by the two John Lotts who left legal documents in Washington Co., Miss.
>Territory before 1810? The names fit.
>
>John Barron
Date: 97-10-08 11:25:20 EDT
From: JMorris811
To: JBarron933
JB, Do you know the URL to the DRT Library's web site?
Date: 97-10-08 13:25:27 EDT
From: MIL2ROCK
To: JBarron933
Thanks for the info, but what is the URL for the DRT Library web site?
Date: 97-10-08 15:06:21 EDT
From: grg@iname.com (Gerald R Gallagher)
To: JBarron933@aol.com ('JBarron933@aol.com')
Dear John; Could you share your references for the relationships between the Lotts in Texas with me. I appreciate you pointing me to the self published book by Robert Witt. It took me a long time to find a copy but finally I found it at the Baylor University Library. However, some of the
information contained in that book does not agree with other information I have found. Do you know how I could contact Robert Witt? Gerald Gallagher
Date: 10/08/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu, dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com, mil2rock,
kerrygmo, bellmer@narrows.com, jmorris811,petibonel
For you non-Texas, the DRT is the Daughters of the Republic of Texas. It's an organization for women with ancestors in Texas before statehood in 1846. My daughter went in on Arthur Lott of Smith Co.
I suspect the file at the Alamo concerns Robert A. Lott of Washington Co., TX. A number of people have gone in on him, but strangely none on his brother John. Robert is the only one in the 1850 census. I can't find any of the others.
There were 4 Lotts in Texas by 1836 who were supposedly brothers, but I've seen no real evidence of their relationship: John, Robert A., Jesse, and Arthur. They were all in the Florida Terr. from ca1826-31 along with a Luke, but in Miss shortly before that. I think they were the younger of the two sets of brothers of that name in Washington Co., MS Terr ca1807 and were sons of John (the inn keeper of Marion Co.?).
Date: 10/08/97
To: grg@iname.com
Gerald, I guess you mean the Washington Co., MS Terr records that I mentioned? I'll try and get these together and send them. Of course, I'm just guessing that they are the brothers who showed up in Texas in 1836, but you know how LOTT research goes. Everything fits for them, however, names, dates and locations.
For the life of me, I can't remember who Robert Witt is or what he wrote. My brain is going into overload on these people. I've got a photographic memory, but I can't get film for it anymore. John
Date: 97-10-12 14:08:55 EDT
From: SIS1971
To: JBarron933
Yes, I would love to get on it. I am just starting to research the family history. I figured I would start with Lott as it seems to be less common than Clark or Moore. We just moved to Oregon from San Antonio and I am enclosing my address. Would it be possible for you to send me a list? I was glad to hear from someone so quickly. Thank you. Suzanne
Suzanne Langston
PO Box 811
Clatskanie, OR 97016
Date: 97-10-12 18:58:25 EDT
From: Kerrygmo
To: JBarron933, lbarron@husc.harvard.edu
To: dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com, MIL2ROCK
To: bellmer@narrows.com, JMorris811, PetiboneL
To: SIS1971
Suzanne, Great that you've joined us. Here is my Lott connection. I don't think we've received yours. Mine seems to be earlier than most of the others I've seen here.
Kerry Girolamo
Groves, TX
Descendants of Ann Lott
+William Williams b: 1751 m: 1770
2 Simon Williams b: 1775 in Bulloch Co., Georgia d: 1851 in Rankin Co.,Mississippi
+Tibitha Byrd b: 1778 in Bulloch Co., Georgia d: in Rankin Co., Mississippi
I'm not sure where this Ann came from. You can see that her son is born in Bulloch, Co., GA so I know they lived there. This line is part of the Richardson line I am researching and it appears that this Williams family and the Richardsons moved around together. I am not sure if the Lotts were moving with them.
Date: 97-10-12 22:56:09 EDT
From: ETalley720
To: JBarron933
In a message dated 97-10-12 21:47:56 EDT, you write:
<< I saw where you submitted a LOTT query in the Marion Co., MS, web page, but it is not on the board now. What is your connection to the family? I am descended from the Arthur LOTT killed by the Indians in 1812 through his son Arthur (b 1788) who came to Smith Co., TX, in the 1840s. >>
I don't remember the exact connection, I'd have to look it up. I haven't been working on that line much lately. However, I can tell you generally that the Lott's married into either the Hartfield or Johnson (or both) lines in Marion/Lamar Counties. My mother's father was a Hartfield and her mother was a Johnson. The Hartfield ancestors include the Boones and Fillingames. The Johnsons ancestors include the Wattses and Morrises. If any of this sounds familiar, let me know.
Edie Talley
Date: 97-10-13 11:59:47 EDT
From: 110135.736@compuserve.com (Gerald R. Gallagher)
Sender: 110135.736@compuserve.com (Gerald R. Gallagher)
To: JBarron933@aol.com (INTERNET:JBarron933@aol.com)
Dear John; Regarding Robert Witt, the book he published that you referred to me was Under the Starry Cross, Our Family Veterans of the American Civil War. I found a copy at the Baylor University Library through an interlibrary loan request but they will not loan the book and they could not tell me how to contact Robert Witt other than to use a Houston phone book. They did send me photocopies of specific pages I requested from the index. Do you know how to contact him?
Secondly, the Lott circle message you sent this weekend indicates that Henry Smith and Elizabeth Watts Lott Smith may have move to Tarrant Co. Have you found some reference that suggests this? Is this based on the fact that some of E. E. Lott's children moved to Tarrant Co.? Can you tell me where Arthur Lott and Elizabeth Watts marriage record can be found?
Some information I have found that may be of interest to the circle. Anna E. Cook Lott, the second wife of Elisha Everett Lott, moved to Lewisville, Texas and lived with the Hatcher family. She died April 1, 1908 and is buried in the Smith Association Cemetery in the Hatcher family plot. The full name Anna E. Cook Lott appears on her head stone. Sid S. Johnson in his book published in 1900, Some Biographies of Old Settlers, Historical, Personal and Reminiscent, stated that Anna Cook Lott was residing in Louisville, Texas at the time he wrote the book. I have found two references to the marriage of Elisha Everett Lott to Anna Cook; From the chronicles of Smith Co. is a report published in the Texas Republican of Marshall, Texas stating E.E. Lott married Ann Cook in Hannibal Missouri April 19, 1856. The Texas State Gazette of April 26, 1856, page 3, col 5 reported: By the Rev. Mr. Finley, at the residence of B. Hatcher Esq. Near Hannibal, Mo. on the 12th, Hon E. E. Lott of Smith Co. Texas to Miss Anna Cook formerly of Austin. Gerald Gallagher
Date: 10/12/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu, dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil, grg@iname.com, mil2rock,
kerrygmo, bellmer@narrows.com, jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971
Suzanne Langston
PO Box 811
Clatskanie, OR 97016
Is our newest member of the Lott Circle. Her e-mail address is SIS1971@aol.com.
I worked on Smith Co., TX, tax roll records yesterday in the time period 1860-1867 in an attempt to determine the death date of Elizabeth Watts, widow of Arthur Lott who died there in 1855. She remarried Henry Smith and was on the tax roll several times as guardian of Nancy Ann Elizabeth Lott, grandaughter of Arthur (and herself?).
Henry Smith was shown to pay the taxes on the Arthur Lott home place until 1867 when payment on it appears to have been assumed by Solomon J. Lott, son-in-law of Arthur Lott. Could not determine what happened to this couple after this time from these records. They may have been dead or they may have moved (to Tarrant Co.). Need to follow up on this research. John Barron
Date: 10/12/97
To: ETalley720@aol.com
I saw where you submitted a LOTT query in the Marion Co., MS, web page, but it is not on the board now. What is your connection to the family? I am descended from the Arthur LOTT killed by the Indians in 1812 through his son Arthur (b 1788) who came to Smith Co., TX, in the 1840s.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 10/13/97
To: ETalley720
In a message dated 97-10-12 22:56:09 EDT, you write:
<< I don't remember the exact connection, I'd have to look it up. I haven't been working on that line much lately. However, I can tell you generally that the Lott's married into either the Hartfield or Johnson (or both) lines in Marion/Lamar Counties. My mother's father was a Hartfield and her mother was a Johnson. The Hartfield ancestors include the Boones and Fillingames. The Johnsons ancestors include the Wattses and Morrises. If any of this sounds familiar, let me know.>>
Hi Edie, thanks for your reply. The only one familiar to me is WATTS. This family came to Marion Co. about 1818 but most moved to Covington in the 1820s. The first one was Rev. John WATTS and wife Judith (RAWLS?). My line is from his son Thomas then Elizabeth WATTS who was the wife of Arthur LOTT who immigrated to Smith Co., TX. John Barron
Date: 97-10-14 07:42:56 EDT
From: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil (Dan Lot)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, Haven't been able to do much with Robert A. (Alexander) Lott (too many fire drills here!!!) but I did find time to at least look into my listing to see what I had there. It is attached as a word 6 document (Max).
Comment. I have other data regarding Robert Alexander Lott regarding his early life in Florida. Also, a possible quote from a MS newspaper about him going to Texas after stopping here in MS. Will try to find that so I can quote it properly.
Enjoying your information. Dan
Date: 97-10-15 09:19:53 EDT
From: PetiboneL
To: JBarron933
Morning John, Not sure who I should pass this on to. Can now cut and paste thanks to Gerald and some new software. My line stayed in Ga. Mark Lott said to be only child of said John Lott Jr. Working at this point. Cant be sure of much about John Lott Jr. yet. The following is my line. Can give more information to anyone interested. Judy
Descendants of Mark Lott
Generation No. 1
1. Mark3 Lott (John2, John1) was born 1765 in St. George's Parish, Georgia, and died 1812 in Montgomery Co., Georgia. He married Delilah Jones.
Children of Mark Lott and Delilah Jones are:
2 i. Daniel4 Lott, born 1791. He married Lucy Peterson.
3 ii. Elizabeth Lott, born 1794. She married John Peterson.
4 iii. Sarah Lott, born 1797. She married Gray Stock Roberts January 04, 1816.
+ 5 iv. Joel Lott, born 1798 in Ware Co., Georgia; died January 24, 1864 in Ware Co., Georgia.
6 v. Penelope Lott, born 1800. She married Stafford Davis.
7 vi. Pollie Lott, born 1805. She married Jackson Newbern.
8 vii. Mark Lott, born 1807. He married Amarintha Ward.
9 viii. Francis Lott, born 1810. She married John Gaskins July 27, 1832.
Generation No. 2
5. Joel4 Lott (Mark3, John2, John1) was born 1798 in Ware Co., Georgia, and died January 24, 1864 in Ware Co., Georgia. He married Rhoda Davis, daughter of Arthur Davis and Mary Vick.
Notes for Joel Lott: Joel and Rhoda are buried in Telmore Cemetery. Graves unmarked. Within the chained family space.
Children of Joel Lott and Rhoda Davis are:
+ 10 i. Delilah5 Lott, born July 09, 1822 in Telfair Co., Georgia; died September 02, 1894.
11 ii. Margaret Lott, born January 11, 1824. She married Mark Wilcox April 09, 1839.
12 iii. Francis Lott, born January 23, 1826. She married John Wilcox April 13, 1839.
13 iv. Daniel Lott, born March 09, 1828. He married Susan Mobley.
14 v. Thomas Lott, born October 20, 1842 in Ware Co., Georgia; died August 28, 1862 in Manasses, Virginia.
Generation No. 3
10. Delilah5 Lott (Joel4, Mark3, John2, John1) was born July 09, 1822 in Telfair Co., Georgia, and died September 02, 1894. She married Early Davis March 27, 1838 in Ware Co., Georgia, son of Early Davis Sr..
Children of Delilah Lott and Early Davis are:
15 i. Joel J.6 Davis, born March 06, 1841. He married Mary Martha Wilson.
16 ii. Absalom Davis, born February 18, 1844; died August 20, 1863.
+ 17 iii. Herodius Davis, born March 26, 1848.
18 iv. Francis T. Davis, born September 24, 1850; died January 08, 1862.
19 v. Margaret Davis, born October 21, 1853. She married John Hargraves Wilson.
20 vi. Americus Davis, born March 10, 1857. She married George Broxton.
Generation No. 4
17. Herodius6 Davis (Delilah5 Lott, Joel4, Mark3, John2, John1) was born March 26, 1848. She married Henry B. Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson and Mary Brewer.
Children of Herodius Davis and Henry Wilson are:
21 i. John T.7 Wilson, born 1869; died 1937. He married Ella Lee Roberts.
Notes for Ella Lee Roberts:
Ella Lee Roberts and Lee Ella Roberts were twins. Children from Family Bible.
23 iii. Thomas Wilson.
Date: 97-09-18 21:32:36 EDT
From: JNewton339
To: JBarron933
This is what I sent to JMorris811. Keep in touch. My great uncle Nathanial Milburn Newton (now deceased) owned a jewelry store in Austin. My grandfather Joel (aka Joseph) Wooten Newton with Nathanial and other Newton brothers moved from Wilson Cnty, Tx to Georgetown, Williamson cnty, Tx. My father's baby sister died in Georgetown and grandfather purchased a 4 grave lot in Goodfellows Cemetery-name has been changed. I now own the lot-have deed. Grandfather moved back to Wilson Cnty. He died during an epidemic. Grandmother Mary Ann (nee Wright) Newton remaried in San Antonia 1890 and moved to Macon-Milledgeville, Ga area and then in 1900 moved to Atlanta, Ga. I live in Chamblee about 10 miles from Atlanta. Age is 80. Jack W. Newton, 3402 Hardee Ave, Chamblee, Ga 30341-3312. If this will help you, let me know.
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Fwd: LOTT
Date: 97-09-14 07:32:46 EDT
From: JNewton339
To: JMorris811
CC: RBillard, Robertnels, AUBREY, P FAIRLADY
CC: DSand39689
JMorris, the reason I am ressending the last e-mail is to show who else is seeking info on LOTTs, an to keep mu typing down to minimum. All of you should start a LOTT GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY. No folks, I am not kin to the LOTT that was in the attachment. Am duplicating pages from the book mentioned in attachment to send to JMorris811. Would like to hear from all of you about your successes.
Jack W. Newton, My Joshua and his brother Jacob were part of Samuel's family on the trek to MS TRR. Joshua md Elizabeth Wooten dau of Hardy who settled in MS TRR about 1799 (now Green Cnty)
I put JBARRON 933 and Eagles5152 on CC above but they were rejected. Do any of you know them for LOTTs sake.
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: LOTT
Date: 97-09-13 10:27:08 EDT
From: JNewton339
To: JMorris811
Clyde LOTT is mentioned as being a local baseball player and as a Railroad engineer in town of UNIFORM around 1927. Ada Cade LOTTE is shown as a Student in FAIRHOPE Singing School in 1915. MR & MRS Will LOTT are mentioned re LEWIS GROVE MISSIONARU BAPTIST CHURCH in the community of Cortelyou about 1906. DEER PARK CEMETERY Clarence LOTT 10-24-1939 8-20-1971.
Atlanta Archives:Page 268-Saturday 7th November 1807
On Recommendation
Ordered:
That a passport through the CREEK NATION be granted for JAMES TAYLOR, JOHN LOTT senr, WILLIAM WILLIAMS, and SAMUEL NEWTON, with their families, which was presented and signed. (I added all caps) Samuel's family included Jacob and Joshua (my gggrand father who md Elizabeth WOOTEN in MS TRR dau of Hardy WOOTEN in MS TRR 1799) Jacob never married.
I have marked book "The History of Washington County" which I will photocopy and mail, today or Monday. See! I have not forgotten you. Had a message typed out Fri night to plug in the Chat session when I saw your screen name show up the 3r time, but you had left the room. Same thing last night for someone wanting info on HOSKINS and STOTT.
Date: 97-10-14 07:35:26 EDT
From: ETalley720
To: JBarron933
In a message dated 97-10-13 09:33:58 EDT, you write:
<< Hi Edie, thanks for your reply. The only one familiar to me is WATTS. This family came to Marion Co. about 1818 but most moved to Covington in the 1820s. The first one was Rev. John WATTS and wife Judith (RAWLS?). My line is from his son Thomas then Elizabeth WATTS who was the wife of Arthur LOTT who immigrated to Smith Co., TX. >>
Hi John, Good to hear from you. I've been looking for information on the Watts family. I think you may have given me a big clue. My Watts line (as I understand it) is as follows:
My grandmother was Loucresia Johnson Hartfield.
Her mother was Judith Watts and her father was Silas Johnson.
Judith's father was John L. Watts, Sr. and her mother was Lydia Morris.
Lydia's parents were Seaborn and Marguerite (nee ?) Morris.
I think it is pretty curious that your Watts line contains a John and Judith. It seems more than a coincidence. I'd love to hear more about them from you if you have more info. Looks like we could be cousins after all! Thanks, Edie
Date: 97-10-18 11:51:30 EDT
From: PetiboneL
To: JBarron933
Morning, Had been unable to send my information to you due to cut and paste problems. They have been resolved now. Gerald had helped a good bit. My line pasted to email. Met another Lott yesterday. He would like to join your group. Not sure if it is a he yet. Email address is SSTapor@aol.com. Will give him your email address. My line is:
Siblings in this last generation from family bible. Have not worked them up yet. Someone told me last week that my Mark Lott was the only child of said John Lott Jr. Just starting on this and can't say one way or the other. Am related to self through many of the lines that run into my Lott line and many of these have other Lotts in them. G'day, Judy
Date: 97-10-20 03:51:41 EDT
From: STROTHER21
To: JBarron933
MY LOTT LINEAGE
JOHN LOTT
JOHN LOTT
The following is the bare bones--I'll be glad to download every thing I have as soon as I learn how to. I know very little about the first three John Lotts (John Barron has the latest and most accurate data on the early Lotts).
Solomon Lott born abt 1744 NC; died abt 1822 MS;
Jacob Lott born 1795 SC; died ?; His son moved away in 1867; He married Elizabeth Nichols dau of Henry and Elender Nichols of GA.
Vincent Lott born 9-19-1828 in Harrison Co ? MS; married Cinthia b 1833; later married Nancy Ann Wright b 1-20-1844 in AL, married abt 1867. Has homestead records for Polk Co AR.
John Franklin Lott born 1867 in IL; died 1929 in AR; married Isebelle Townsend dau of William and Elizabeth Townsend of AR; married date: 4-25-1889. Has homestead records for Polk Co AR
Lee Warney Lott born 6-4-1904 in Yacony, Polk Co AR; died 12-10-1982 in AR married Ruby Sarah Strother of Montgomery Co AR, m 3-8-1927 in Polk Co.
John J. Lott born 8-14-1944 in Ink AR; living in Mena AR; m Sandra Louise Boggs dau of Milton Lloyd Boggs and Mamie Ruth Siau of TX.
Lloyd Lee Lott born 6-13-72 in Mena AR; living and single
NICHOLS LINEAGE
HENRY NICHOLS b 1730; m Hannah ?
ISAAC NICHOLS b ?; m Elizabeth ?
HENRY NICHOLS b 1833; m Elender ?
ELIZABETH NICHOLS b 1807; m JACOB LOTT
sources: every tidbit of data on the Nichols line was taked from a series of wills for GA and SC and one lawsuit over inheritance.
I work most Saturdays with John Barron here in Austin TX and will hand over a much more detailed compilation.
LLOYD L. LOTT
1-512-462-2837
1700 BURTON DRIVE
APT 424
AUSTIN, TX 78741
I believe that this John is the one that died in Washington Co., MS Terr about 1807 and named sons John, Robert, Luke, Jesse, etc., in legal documents. John Barron
Date: 97-10-20 11:04:03 EDT
From: PetiboneL
To: JBarron933
Morning John, had received the following from someone last week. I will call the Huxford Gen. Soc. on Thursday to see if they can verify death of said John f/o Mark as having taken place in Ga. I have an hour of lookups with membership. Seems like every time I get email there is another version of things. My census index search for this surname makes it all worse. Many LOTTs with same given names. Judy
Dear Judy Kaye, According to my research on the Lott's, Mark Lott is in my line also. The following may help you: Mark Lott - B 1-22-1769, D 2-14-1790, M Delilah Jones B 5-?-1771 Father was John Lott, Jr. - B 1742 in Duplin Co,NC, D 8-1-1810 in Tattnall Co., GA. His occupation was listed as: Tax Collector. He lived for some years on the Toisnot Swamp in what is now Wilson Co., NC, before John Lott, Sr. took the family southward. By 1790, John, Jr. was living in Barnwell Co, SC. On May 14, 1791, he was granted land in Effingham Co., GA. In 1797-98 he was a taxpayer in Montgomery Co, GA. He married Sallie (?) B 1748 in Duplin Co, NC, D 8-1-1818 in Tattnall Co, GA. Mark was their only child. John Lott, Sr. - B 1720 in Edgecombe Co, NC, D 1810 in MS. He married Bethany (?) in 1740. She was born 1722 Died Nov. 1795. Their children:
1. John, Jr.
3. Mark
According to my records, John, Sr.'s Father was John Born 1700 and died in NC. He married Elizabeth Joyner, Daughter of John Joyner, she also was born in 1700. John, Sr. was their only child.
Date: 10/20/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,b
ellmer@narrows.com, jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21
This message is to welcome back Lloyd Lott (strother21@aol.com) to the circle. He keeps changing his e-mail address, but promises to stay put for a while. He sends the following and, I'm certain, wants a lott of feedback.
I think Solomon is the son of John_2, however. Comments?
Date: 10/20/97
To lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,b
ellmer@narrows.com, jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21
I got the following from Gerald and forgot to respond. I also forgot who Robert Witt was, but now remember. I don't know his present address, but maybe some of the circle might have it (hey Lloyd).
My reference to Tarrant Co. for Henry Smith and Elizabeth was just a guess and I've not been able to check into it as yet. I think they both died in Smith Co., however. Also, I've never seen a real reference for the marriage of Arthur Lott and Elizabeth Watts, but it must have been in Marion Co., MS. Her father, Thomas Watts, gave them some property when he moved to Covington Co. as per the following from Williams' Abstracts of Deeds of Marion County
Thomas Watts, Senr of Covington Co. because of moving and for natural love and affection toward Arthur Lott of Marion - negro man Stepney 37 years of age. 17 Oct 1827. Wit: Reuben Watts, Sr. and Jesse Lott, Jr.
Date: 97-10-21 16:15:01 EDT
From: sandra@trsl.state.la.us
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Two new happenings:
1- I have just had an older version of the Family History Center's program put on my very old computer by a newly found cousin in Erwinville, LA, Gary Lott, so now I have some semblance of a way to record in a set way family genealogical facts. I just about have the hang of how to add on to his family with my family. (My oldest son is planning to give me an outgrown computer of his that has CD Rom on it and then I will try to see what I can download from or order from FHC here in Baton Rouge).
2- I am flying via American Airlines and my broom to Dallas on Halloween,and not that night but probably Monday will be checking out any cemeteries I can reach within an hour's radius from Dallas. Problem: My first contributor, Mrs. Kittling in Kerens, TX, listed several Lotts and Cowan McClung as being buried at Long Prairie Cemetery and/or in Long Prairie, TX, Navarro County. You show some of these, like Elizabeth Lott and Cowan as being buried in Alligator Cemetery, Navarro County. Where is it? I think I read that you had been there. At least I see that some of the stones are next to each other. Any kind of directions would be appreciated.
Thanks also for the lead to the McClung Genealogy book. I have ordered and hope to be getting one soon.
My oldest son, Dr. Michael David Casey, just celebrated his 40th birthday this month, my oldest daughter, Dr. Jennifer Kathleen Casey, her 38th birthday, plus two granddaughters were now 8 and 12 this month---I really feel like an ancestor of some sort, myself! Your cousin, Sandra
Date: 97-10-22 19:29:25 EDT
From: SIS1971
To: Kerrygmo, PetiboneL, JBarron933
I have gotten some new information on my Lott connection. I am trying to find it and email it to you all. Edgar Lott m. Helen Mullin (July 14, 1878)
daughters: Dell (Lott) Cosilow
Ruby Bryant (Lott) Clark (Oct. 10, 1896 - Feb. 9, 1985)
Ruby was my greatgrandmother. I will try to get the other information sent from my mom again. Thanks, Suzanne
Date: 10/23/97
To: sandra@trsl.state.la.us
Sandra, Alligator is simply the old name for Long Prairie Cemetery. I prefer it. The cemetery is on the banks of Alligator Creek and down the road from Long Prairie Church. I don't remember the road number, but I'll look it up if you want me to.
I just got back from Corsicana after spending a couple days with my dad. He broke a rib. We drove out through Powell and Kerens looking at the cotton crop which is something he likes to do.
Would you like me to put you on my Lott Circle list. I send out research results every week or so to about a dozen folks who work on Lott. I didn't know if your agency would frown on such mailing lists.
I'm glad you got a genealogy program. PAF (from the Mormons) is what I used for 10 years all the way form version 1.0. Just this year, however, I switched to The Master Genealogist because of its superior report printing. If you wish, I can send you my descendant chart program, Descend, that works with PAF and does a much better chart the the plain vanilla one they give you.
John
Date: 10/24/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,b
ellmer@narrows.com, jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us
I am adding a new member to the circle. She is Sandra Taylor Casey (sandra@trsl.state.la.us) and is a cousin of mine (3rd I think) descended from Arthur Lott of Smith Co., TX, and his daughter Elizabeth "Betsy" Lott who married Cowan McClung and settled in Navarro Co., TX. John Barron
Date: 97-10-30 08:04:52 EST
From: Dan.Lott@nrlssc.navy.mil (Dan Lot)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I've got someone who ought to the added to your mailing list for the Lott family circle. His name is Joe Lott, who lives in VA now but comes from the Laurel, MS area (I think!). His e-mail address is:
LOTT_JOE@tandem.com
He's doing research on the Revolutionary War and the migration to MS. Best, Dan Will get back with you after my recent "fire drills" settle down at work. Bad news is, I won't be able to do much family stuff until January. I leave again soon to ride a ship off Holland for over three weeks. I am still interested -- just overrun by events at work.
Date: 10/30/97
To: Lott_joe@tandem.com
Dan Lott sent me your name as a Lott researcher. I am a descendant of Arthur Lott of Smith Co., TX, and a 20 year genealogist. I have started an on-line mailing list of Lott researchers and would like to add you to the list. You will not be spammed as we only send a few messages a week.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 97-10-31 04:30:47 EST
From: LOTT_JOE@tandem.com
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Please add me to your list. I'm tracking the Southern Lotts who are the descendents of John Lott of Edgecombe Co, NC and Elizabeth Joyner of VA who migrated to GA. I am a descendent of his son John (Jr) and of John Jr's sons Luke and Nathan who settled in MS. In addition to just trying to untangle the Lott family tree for so many generations, I would like to capture family history about the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War, and Civil War. I'm also gathering information on the pioneer experiences of the family as it moved west.
I'm happy to share information with others, as long as it is for personal enrichment rather than commercial enterprise (ie, I don't want to see information that I give away freely to someone then sold for a profit by that person). In addition to exchanging family tree information, I am looking for some specifics:
1. Units served in and nature of service for John Lott and his sons that were in the Revolutionary War.
2. More information on the settling of Columbia, MS (Lott's Bluff) by the Lott and Watts families.
3. Circumstances surrounding the death of Arthur Lott (another son of John) who was killed by Indians while migrating from GA to MS.
4. Which of John Lott's descendents were the ones who migrated to TX.
Below is a biographical synopsis that I wrote on John Lott. Regards, JL
=====
Biographical Synopsis of John Lott:
John Lott was a Revolutionary Soldier who was born in Edgecombe Co, NC around 1715-1720 and migrated to Tattnall Co, GA. He married Elizabeth Joyner sometime around 1740. Elizabeth was born about 1724 and supposedly died around 1795. She was the daughter of John Joyner of Isle of Wight Co, VA and Elizabeth Brown. Some researchers believe that Elizabeth was also called Bethany since there is reference to John's wife Bethany in the records. Since she would have been bearing children for 45 years, it is more likely that Bethany is a later, younger wife, although no evidence of this has been uncovered except for the unlikely time span of child bearing.
During John Lott's early years, the inland portions of present day NC and GA were only thinly settled. The territories of present day AL and MS were mainly Indian country. Most of the land in these present day states was not yet settled or even owned by citizens. The government encouraged migration through land grant polices and the rapid importation of immigrants. Today, we often forget that the first pioneers of the South faced many of the hardships and challenges we normally associate with the settlement of the Western US as they traveled in wagon trains, sometimes through hostile territory to seek new homes. It is amazing to see the migration of the Lott family across the South and the creation of a whole society during the lifetime of one man, John Lott. This story is repeated across many families and is a common thread throughout any research of these times. It is one of the reasons why the Southern men from MS and TX would travel to TN, GA, and VA to fight in the Civil War 60 years later. They were joining their uncles, cousins and in-laws who had remained in those states.
John Lott ran a mill in present day Wilson Co, NC (Lott's Mill) which possibly also served as an inn from about 1744-49. He must have been a leader of the community because he was placed in charge of local citizens who cut a road through that part of NC. Prior to the Revolution, he began an occupation of farmer and land speculator that was carried on by his children. Over the years, there is quite a bit of evidence of his application for land grants and land patents and his sale of lands to his children or others. In fact, it appears he was speculating through his children since they began applying for land grants and patents as early as possible in their own right. He moved from Edgecombe Co to Duplin Co, NC and then on to GA by way of SC arriving in St George Parish, GA (later Burke Co) around 1762. His first recorded application for land in 1765 was denied since it had alreay been claimed. He received his first grant of GA land in 1766. On 21 Mar 1767, he was commissioned a Lieutenant in Capt James Pugh's company of the Colonial Militia of GA.
During the Revolutionary War, he moved his family from GA to SC to avoid the Loyalists who sided with the British and the British troops, but they returned to GA after the war was over. Although he is listed as a soldier of the Revolution, evidence of the exact unit he served in or any battles in which he was a participant has not been located. Since he would have been in his mid to late 50's, the life of a soldier would have been tough for him. There is evidence that he helped furnish supplies for the troops, probably in the nature of meat and other foodstuffs. This fact coupled with the lack of any other information suggests that he was involved in provisioning the army and probably left the direct fighting to the younger men, although this is supposition.
Shortly before the end of the Revolutionary War in 1784, he and his family returned to Effingham Co, GA and resumed their land speculation practices. The pattern was simple. He and his sons (and some of their sons) would apply for and be granted land, clear part of it or make some improvements on it within the time requirements of the grant, then sell it for a profit a few years later and start the process over again. There is indication that they sold back and forth to each other or owned property jointly, as well, but the reasons for this aren't clear. Also, it is difficult to pinpoint and explain the locations of his lands or those of his family since GA underwent quite an expansion of counties and some of these places can claim to have been in 3 or 4 different counties since John Lott was there.
He was appointed Road Commissioner in Burke County on 29 July 1783 for the road from Queensboro to Horse Creek on the Ogeechee. This indicates that he lived on that road at that time. He was named Captain of the 7th Company of Effingham Co Militia, 1787-1790. It appears that he had upwards of 14 children. There is some difficulty in finding connections between John Lott and all of his supposed 14 children although there is plenty of evidence for his son John Lott, referred to hereafter as John Lott, Jr to distinguish him from his father.
The use of the terms Sr and Jr is somewhat misleading from our common usage of them today. In the context of John Lott's times, these terms referred to people with the same name who were closely related, though not necessarily father and son. This usually happened in legal documents like land grants or court decrees. The use of the term Jr could even switch as a person became older and begat sons with the same name or had nephews named after him.
John Lott was in GA for the census in 1790 and is named in Tattnall Co court records as late as 1805. It appears that he lived into his 80's. Despite some suggestions that John Lott moved to MS with his grandsons, it is more likely that he stayed in GA and died some time before 1810, although the exact place of death or burial is not recorded.
Date: 10/31/97
To: LOTT_JOE@tandem.com
Joe, you're on the list. Thanks for the writeup and I'll check into your specifics when I can print them out. One thing for sure that I can demonstrate with little effort is that the Lott's were TORYS during the Rev. War and that there were 2 adult John Lotts in Edgecombe Co. in 1754. The elder died in British West FL in 1778 and had a wife named Emile (Emily).
The references to the above were sent along with some of my early Lott Circle messages and I will assemble them for you to examine as time permits. John
Date: 97-10-31 16:36:17 EST
From: LOTT_JOE@tandem.com
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Thanks for the update. I'd very much like to see what you have on John Lott (father or son) being Tory Loyalists. My research shows that they were granted lands as revolutionary soldiers and that there is a John Lott Jr listed in the Roster of South Carolina Patriots although I have no confirmation except other researcher's assertions that they are the same person. There are also Lott's on that roster that could have been other sons of John Lott, the elder, although he himself does not appear. Also note that DAR records support both John's being Revolutionary Soldiers.
However, there were two Lotts, James and Jesse, who were hanged as Royalists on 3 Oct 1779 who were probably also sons of John Lott, so it is quite likely that the family was divided in loyalties. Other Lotts listed as Tories include Archable Lott and Marin Lott of Cheatham Co, SC. The relationship of these Lotts to my clan is not known. I suspect they are part of another Lott family that came into the colonies through Charleston, SC by a John Lott whose ancestory is listed as Scotland. My John Lott's father or grandfather supposedly came into the colonies through Baltimore or Virginia and was from England. Once again, these are researcher claims based on supposition or word of mouth, so the actual source of these Lott clans is unconfirmed.
Looking forward to hearing more about what you have on the Lotts. Regards, JL
Date: 97-10-31 20:01:19 EST
From: AubreyV
To: JBarron933
The line I am researching starts with my GGM Sara Ann Elizabeth LOTT b: Sep 1867 Tallapoosa County(?); daughter of Samuel Vandiver LOTT and Mrs. Martha Ann Taunton. Sara married Edward Jackson GOODMAN Sep 1882 in Tallapoosa County, AL. Do you have any info on this family?
I would like to join your LOTT Circle.
Do you know of a paper publication called "LOTT Lineages". The publisher puts together items sent to her, notifies those on her mailing list that a new edition is ready, send in the $5.00 , and she returns a copy. For those interested write to: Sally SEAMAN-WILLIAMS; PO Box 1035; No. Highlands, CA 95660-1035.
Talk to you later; Aubrey
Date: 10/31/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,b
ellmer@narrows.com,jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us,aubreyv,lot
t_joe@tandem.com
Also, another new member is Aubrey Vickers (aubreyv@aol.com). He wrote the following and yes I do know about the Lott Lineages publication. Thanks, Aubrey, it is a good forum.
Date: 11/01/97
To:
lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,bellmer
@narrows.com,jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us,aubreyv,lott_joe
@tandem.com
Aubrey, in one of the Lott Lineages I think you submitted a newspaper article from the Douglasville, GA, paper. I have found that the supposed birth date of John "Jr" of 1742 may have come from an article in that same paper in 1954 listing the bible record of his son Mark. This was given as a source in the DAR application of Frances Blitch. Do you know about this article? How did you get your clipping? I haven't been able to find if and where this paper has been microfilmed.
Date: 97-11-01 23:04:27 EST
From: AubreyV
To: JBarron933
Will have to look up the article. Maybe I have a reference to where it came from. Give me a few days. Aubrey
Date: 97-11-05 23:59:28 EST
From: STROTHER21
To: JBarron933
Dear Sir, why are many of the land records left with 0's as results?----It must have been a real paper-work problem for the clerks? And how did Robert Lott get 478+ acres? It seems odd that so few Lotts were in LA. None of the names are familiar, but I would like to link them with the Texas Lotts---perhaps the 'LOST LOTTS.' Thanks, LLOYD L. STROTHER "CAESAR" LOTT
Date: 11/05/97
To: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,b
ellmer@narrows.com,jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us,aubreyv,lot
t_joe@tandem.com
I got the following from the internet and thought some of you may recognize some of these people. Sorry about the wavy columns, can't figure out how to make AOL use non-proportiona fonts.
Louisiana Land entries for Lott
Last Name First Name Init Date Parish Acres
LOTT AARON 1892 Bossier 0.0000
LOTT AARON 1892 Bossier 0.0000
LOTT AARON 1892 Bossier 160.1400
LOTT CHARLES C 1890 Bossier 80.0700
LOTT HENRY W 1901 Bossier 0.0000
LOTT HENRY W 1901 Bossier 0.0000
LOTT HENRY W 1901 Bossier 159.4800
LOTT HIRAM R 1859 WestCarroll 160.1800
LOTT LAUDICE F 1902 Vernon 0.0000
LOTT LAUDICE F 1902 Vernon 0.0000
LOTT LAUDICE F 1902 Vernon 161.7600
LOTT LITTLETON B 1906 StTammany 0.0000
LOTT LITTLETON B 1906 StTammany 160.2600
LOTT LUKE 1906 Livingston 0.0000
LOTT LUKE 1906 Livingston 155.7000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 0.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 0.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 0.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 0.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 0.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 0.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 151.0000
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 164.2400
LOTT ROBERT B 1837 Grant/Natchitoches 478.4400
Date: 11/06/97
To: STROTHER21
In a message dated 97-11-05 23:59:28 EST, you write:
<< Why are many of the land records left with 0's as results?----It must have been a real paper-work problem for the clerks? And how did Robert Lott get 478+ acres? >>
Don't know, but I bet that's the Robert A. Lott who settled in Washington Co., TX, in 1836, John
Date: 97-11-14 04:05:12 EST
From: LOTT_JOE@Tandem.COM
To: jbarron933@aol.com
I'm sorry to take so long in responding, but I didn't get all of your message as you can see below.
I'm open minded about the concept that the Lotts were Loyalists during the Revolution and I find the land petitions interesting. It is certainly possible that these John Lotts (father and son) are the same ones that I have been tracking. My research shows that the male Lotts were consistently buying and selling land as a means to gain wealth and their pattern of land speculation certainly fits with these grants.
The question is whether or not such grants would make them Tory Loyalists. I do believe that the family had divided loyalties. It is probable that the James and Jesse Lott who were hung in SC were also sons of John Lott. On the other hand, John Lott's other sons: Arthur, William, and John Jr were prominent citizens whose role in the Revolution would have been known (especially Arthur and William who later served in the GA legislature). Also, most of John Lott's daughters married soldiers of the Revolution. John Lott himself was later an officer in the GA militia after the Revolutionary War. I find it hard to square the notion that John Lott was a Loyalist based on these facts, even if he swore an oath as part of a land deal.
What would help settle the issue would be to identify which units the John Lotts were part of and any battles that they fought in. If the dates of the land grants are correct (especially the Jan 1778 ones), they would have sat out most of the war in AL or MS. If they were in the Revolutionary Army in NC/SC/GA during this same time, it is less likely that they were in Mobile getting land.
It would also help if we knew more about Emile (supposed widow of John Lott). I've never heard of her before, although I too believe that Elizabeth and Bethany are different women. Also, the Lott men followed a pattern of moving around with their neighbors and in-laws (like the Watts), so it would be useful to know who else was getting land around theirs.
Still, it is a lively controversy and one which may cause us to find out more about these ancestors so please keep me on the list as new information comes to light or opinions are voiced. Regards, JL
Date: 11/15/97
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
In a message dated 97-11-15 04:27:13 EST, you write:
<< Do you know anything about the WATTs in these wills? >>
Well, can't say that I do. Thomas Watts' wife was Elizabeth Lott, daughter of Absalom Lott. However, I can't find them any further back than about 1795 so they may have been in VA when the wills were made. He was supposed to have been born in SC about 1771. There seem to be quite a few WATTS lines, however.
Date: 11/16/97
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
CC: dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,bellmer@narrows.com,jmor
ris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us,aubreyv,lott_joe@tandem.com
In a message dated 97-11-16 22:22:04 EST, you write:
<< I really enjoyed that last LOTT circle by the guy questioning the Tory business. It was very thought provoking. Perhaps the LOTTs were profiteers trying to make money off of both sides of the war. But I just wanted to tell you that I had seen in the reverse DAR index the names of several LOTT women who married DAR men. It might be "profitable" to trace some of the female lines to see if they give us any more info that's useful. I have found lots of leads that way>>
Good point, daughter, I know one Lott girl married a Hatten. I'll have to check the index next time I'm at the library.
Date: 97-11-16 13:52:25 EST
From: bellmer@narrows.com (Merle Bellmer)
To: JBarron933@AOL.COM ('J. Barron')
Hello to All, I have received the data that everyone working on this line has submitted through this group e-mail system. I print and save all of them for future reference-----hopefully. The problem is I have not been able to make a connection between my Lott line, who came from Fairfield (?) County SC to Carroll Co. MS . by 1850. Does anyone know if there is a connection between the Lotts that all of you are working on and these Lotts?? He is Aaron Lott, b. 1779, SC and Martha, b. 1779, SC. I do not know exactly their route to MS, but some of their children had children in Alabama, before reaching MS. Are there lines connected????? Thanks, Dot
Date: 11/16/97
To: bellmer@narrows.com
CC: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,j
morris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us,aubreyv,lott_joe@tandem.com,wj
arrell@phoenix.net
Dot, it's my opionion that all the southern Lotts are connected, but the connection is probably back in Virginia in the early 1700s. John Lott showed up in Edgecombe Co. in the 1730s the same time that his brothers-in-law, Solomon and Absalom Joyner, did. They were from Isle of Wight Co., VA. This line was so prolific, John was thought ho have 14 sons and/or grandsons, that it seemed to overwhelm the others that were in the area. For instance in addition to the 14, there was a Thomas, Archibald, Joshua, George, and another John in South Carolina during the Rev. War and probably others that I can't think of now.
In Virginia a Mary Lott was shown about 1685 with sons Edward, John, Arthur, etc. These guys surely had descendants, but I've never seen a reference to any of them. I'm sure this isn't much help, but I suppose you just have to persevere and dig deeper. John Barron
Date: 97-11-18 00:37:15 EST
From: LOTT_JOE@Tandem.COM
To: jbarron933@aol.com
I agree that it would be helpful if we can find a connection between the Carroll Co MS Lotts who are descendants of Aaron Lott of SC and the southern MS Lotts (Marion Co) who are descended from John Lott of Edgecomb Co, NC. I have been unable to uncover any direct connection although I agree that one is likely. This is the only other major line of Southern Lotts that I have found.
Note: I've uncovered two other (smaller) Southern Lott lines: John Lott (Loth) from Europe who settled in TX in mid-1800s and a Lott line in Florida that is a branch of the Northern Lotts that came from Illinois around 1873. There is also a "northern" line that probably came from the VA Lotts via WV and then on to OH or KY and possibly on to MO.
One other interesting item. I have uncovered the following southern Lott father and daughter who pre-date both the SC Aaron Lott and the NC John Lott, but are likely to be related in some way:
0 Aaron Lott
b. Abt. 1676 in Chatham Co, NC d. 1730-1768
m. unknown in abt. 1727 in Isle of Wight Co, VA
b. Abt. 1701 in Isle of Wight, VA d. 1741-1803
2 Nicholas Copeland
b. Abt. 1732 d. 1764-1823
m. Dorothy ? 1745-1780
b. Abt. 1762 in Chatham Co, NC
d. May 09, 1839 in Chesterfield Co, SC
m. Pollie Melton in 1784 in Chatham Co, NC
b. 1785 in Chatham Co, NC d. 1870 in Echols Co, GA
Note: I can connect this family to the John Lott line through marriage. Lott Copeland had a son David Singleton Copeland who married Susannah Lightsey. Her brother was Stephen Lightsey who married Elizabeth Lott of Ware Co, GA. Elizabeth is a descendent of John Lott (lineage: Daniel, Joel, Mark, John Jr, John Sr)
I would love to hear of any facts or speculations that could help clear up how Aaron Lott lines and John Lott lines might be related. Also, has anyone found any other line of Lotts besides those I've mentioned above?
Finally, for those Lotts who are asked if Trent Lott is a relative: I think he is one of the Carroll Co Lotts since his family was originally from Grenada before he moved to Pascagoula. Regards, JL
Date: 97-11-18 03:42:31 EST
From: sandra@trsl.state.la.us
To: bellmer@narrows.com
CC: jbarron933@aol.com, lbarron@husc.harvard.edu, dan.lott@nrssc.navy.mil,
grg@iname.com, MIL2ROCK@aol.com, Kerrygmo@aol.com
Although this is not something I have authenticated nor does it, by my hasty viewing of it, prove any relationships between the geographically removed Lotts, I recently received from Gary Lott in Erwinville, LA who has quite a bit of information from the MS Lotts, some of his old 1980's Lott Newletters to copy and thought that pages 19, 20, and 21 might be of interest to you, Dot. Please give me your address and I will send you copies if you are interested. Sandra Casey
Date: 97-11-18 22:47:16 EST
From: suej35@airmail.net (Suzanne Cain)
Reply-to: suej35@airmail.net
To: jbarron933@AOL.COM
Well guess who finally got on the net! Dug around in my very messy files and finally came up with letter and info on early Lotts. Anything new? Can't remember if I told you but finally found Absalom's burial. All info vitals, on Ab, Canzada, and children, are now part of Daughters of the Republic files(open) and the Texas Historical Society's First Family Project(also open). Let's hear from you all. Sue C.
Date: 11/18/97
To: suej35@airmail.net
CC: lbarron@husc.harvard.edu,dan.lott@nrlssc.navy.mil,grg@iname.com,mil2rock,kerrygmo,b
ellmer@narrows.com,jmorris811,petibonel,SIS1971,strother21,sandra@trsl.state.la.us,aubreyv,lot
t_joe@tandem.com
Sue, great news. I'm going to put you on our on-line Lott Circle. Will try to catch you up on what we've been up to. John
Date: 97-11-19 09:20:14 EST
From: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Daddy, What's she talking about? Do we have Absolom's burial? Lucy
Date: 97-11-18 00:59:35 ESTSubj: Re: Lott research - Ab, Canzada, etc.
Date: 97-11-19 15:28:27 EST
From: LOTT_JOE@Tandem.COM
To: jbarron933@AOL.COM
John, I'd like to exchange information with Sue. How can I get in touch with her? I wasn't sure which email address was hers. Regards, JL
Date: 97-11-19 15:18:19 EST
From: wjarrell@phoenix.net
To: JBarron933@aol.com
jb>I have sent you a copy of a message sent to my group of Lott
jb>researchers. We try to help each other with such problems. Would
jb>you like to continue to receive them?
I'm not a LOTT researcher but I have a near cousin who is. Please continue sending them and I'll contribute data as appropriate.