Subj: Robert A. Lott
Date: 1/5/99 7:23:33 PM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@AOL.COM
Friend John, Here is some information that I got from Wm. Moore a few years back. He sent me a stack of papers he has researched over the years, and a lot of these include a great deal of information on Lotts. Territorial Paper Of the United States dated early 1800's it includes some parts of Ga Fl and Mississippi where the Lotts were instrumental of advising the Gov. Congress letters to the president pertaining to the enormous amount of immigrants flooding these areas, some Indian info relating to Lott. This info on Robert Lott was in the papers I got from Moore They are sheet form. Robert A. Lott, Washington Cty, Texas
Robert Lott came to Texas about 1836 and crossed the Brazos River into the town of old Washington in Wash Cty Dec 25 that year. He came from Mississippi but he was a native of Florida, he was born near the city of Tallahassee Oct 10th 1797. Two brothers John and jESSIE Lott preceded him. John lost his life killed by some Indians near Killiam Springs in Grimes Cty 1838. Jessie located at San Antonio died 1860. Robert A. located in Wash cty 4miles SW of Washington, where he had hotel and general Merchandise company. He took part in the Somervill Expedition and was captured at Mier. He drew a white bean at the hacienda of Salado and escaped death at that place. Those drawing the black beans were shot by orders of Santa Ana. He died Jan 3, 1861 at 63 yrs of age. He more or less grew up in Fla. in the stock raising business as he brought a band of fine horses with him to Texas. He married Susan C. Behn Jan 17, 1828 died Feb 28,1895 she was 84 at her death. John as you may know I have been tracking the Lotts thru Creek and Seminole Records and at this time have a total of 22 enrolled Lotts in the Creek. I started following the Lotts in Texas a long with the Watts. Thomas Watt died of snake bite in Center Texas. This Texas information on Watt and Lott, came from a Cherokee Application from descendants of Nathan Lott. It told of Lotts who had left going to Indian territory and Thomas Watts was among them, it told of Arthur's brother, I am assuming this is the same John Arthur we are discussing above. Brother was killed on the trip as it says in the application also someone's wife drowned at a river. Well this all I have at this time hope it helps.
Joe
Date: 1/7/99
To: stoii@juno.com
Joe, thank you for the info concerning Robert Lott. If I am correct, this write-up came from "The History of Grimes Co., Texas" and is partly correct and partly legendary. I am in the process of writing a paper on him and his brothers who came to Texas and will give you a chance to review it when completed.
I'm not familiar with the Thomas Watts that you referred to. My ancestor, Thomas Watts, died ca 1855 in Smith Co., Texas. He was the father-in-law of my Arthur Lott of Smith Co.
As you may know I am very skeptical of the Indian ancestry claims found in the Dawes Commission and related papers. I feel that were self serving and for the most part related legendary events and relationships that supposedly occurred before the people swearing out the documents were born. I don't mean to imply that I dismiss them out of hand, but I think they should be looked at as clues and verified by other independent work. I would be very interested in hearing about such independent research that backed up some of these claims.
John Barron
Date: 1/7/99 10:46:01 AM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hello John, The Thomas Watts you refer to who died in Smith Cty, Texas is the same individual I am speaking of the memorandum clearly states his name and place of death. Smith Cty as you may know was within the bounds of legitimate Cherokee Territory from land grant of the Spanish to the Cherokees. Alto there are great parts of this memorandum that is not readable and have contacted kodiac several times about helping with the reconstruction, and what this is applications of the descendants of Nathan Lott. The problem with this is they applied Cherokee but stating that earlier Lotts had went to Hilchete which I instantly recognized this to be a district of the Creek Nation in Oklahoma. But it lead me into Texas, although I haven't researched all the names yet in Texas, I went on into Oklahoma to research the Creek nation, and very early agency records which has taken about 2 years I have found 22 enrolled Lott arriving in Indian Territory as early as 1830, but on the trail as early as 1828 and two letters from a John William Lott and a Benjamin Lott who were participants in this forced march, they had written letters to different people in charge of different forts. and mentions different camps they stopped at, and they are stating they are good government Indians following their wishes. And that they are speaking in behalf of others because of the language. They are speaking of constant thefts from the whites of horses They went and found two of them and removed the harness and took them back. These records are housed at Ft Worth, national archives. These Lotts were very fortunate we can rule out opportunists because there would not have been enough gold, silver or land to pay for the body count on this trip. If they had been white they could have just walked away. These people of the five southern tribes are what we call our honor roll, and these Lotts in Creek Territory married only the most upstanding family names of that nation, but as you I approach this with a lot of questions. And I never enter any thing in my records pertaining to Indian unless I have found it to be true without question. And out of these 22 names the BIA, The Dept of Interior and Creek Nation claim these Lotts to be Indian without question. And there are many names on Creek Early Settler Roles that I have not been able to account for later. They are Lotts who fought in Indian Units during the Civil War detached to the Kansas Infantry. So we will see where it all leads, but I can tell you this when I was a young boy I lived with my Granmother Missouri while my dad was overseas , family members of the Lotts and Watts and Bird Family came to visit her and I recognize them to be Indian the same as us. I remember the women in the kitchen talking in language, although I am not sure if they Birds were mixed blood or whites. This is all I can tell you for now, there seems to be quite some information on Lott involment with the Seminole in the territorial papers of the United States, washington Cty.
Joe
Date: 1/8/99 11:22:35 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933
CC: sumik@cwix.com
Hello, John,
First of all, let me begin by saying, the information I am sending is still speculative, much points to this but there is nothing confirming this lineage at this time.
I am forwarding the information on the LIGHTFOOT family website as it descends from REVEREND RICHARD LIGHTFOOT that I sent to Sue Miklas last evening. Since she is not able to click on to the 'AOL blue links' I sent her the address for the site in the body of the email that I am forwarding and now I am sending you the link
Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home...Reverend Richard Lightfoot, England.
Now, as I said, this is all still on a speculative level to the extent that I have found mentioned, several times now, by other people, that Martha Jane's full name is MARTHA JANE DORSEY LIGHTFOOT, born abt. 1775 (?), who married ABSALOM LOTT and that Martha Jane's father is PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT of Virginia. Her time of birth would prevent her being the child of many of the PHILLIP LIGHTFOOTs in the LIGHTFOOT family of England. While some people wind up spelling the PHILLIP/PHILIP LIGHTFOOT's differently from time to time...apparently, most of them were not spelled with two LL's and, apparently, her father's was, according to various things I have read,... which is the spelling for the line of PHILLIP from Rev. Richard to John1 to PHILLIP1 to PHILLIP2 to PHILLIP3 and a possible 4. There is no listing for our Martha Jane on this site. But there are other people on this list that are not on others and vice versa, including the name of one of the proven daughters of Henry CORBIN and Alice ELTONSHEAD, named ALICE CORBIN, who married the first PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT. I have seen many lists that did not include her nor several other sisters. There are several Martha's in the information as well as the constant reappearing of the names Elizabeth, Frances, Francis and Letitia (I believe)....which is not Lucretia, obviously, but a similarity and, certainly, all familiar names of this era but most of these are used over and over again throughout the generations with Elizabeth Phillips being the wife of John Lightfoot, the son of Richard that they all descend from.
When you mix in the DORSEY family that is connected to the LIGHTFOOT and CORBIN and LEE families you come up with the same names including the LUCRETIA and the DORSEY's were in Virginia before moving to Maryland and they came over from England around the same time.
I have been coming across other information while searching for my mother's SLAUGHTER family connections back beyond my great grandfather, HUDSON/HUTSON HARRIS SLAUGHTER who appears to have descended from the same ancestors as the GOODRICH LIGHTFOOT group. I am still trying to track down all of that as well. This link that I am sending is one of the fuller sites of information that I have found but does not have some information that I have seen at other sites....but it is one of the most substantial ones, so far. I have been in touch with Mike Shaver and Tom Lightfoot and some other Lightfoot and Slaughter family researchers and have been getting in some other information that I am not sending at this time as they do not provide anything directly pertaining to Martha Jane....and thought I would wait until I see if there is a connection confirmation before I sent them on....just to avoid bombarding you or Sue....but let me know if you want those at any other time before that. I have been working on all my different lines at once going back and forth....so, I need to go back over to my LIGHTFOOT areas in my files and see if there's anything else or any other 'Favorite Places' saved websites to send you at this moment...well, later, in another email. I'll keep working and keep you all posted.
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: LIGHTFOOT
Date: 1/8/99 1:07:25 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: sumik@cwix.com
Dear Sue,
Hello, I have been in touch with Mike Shaver, Tom Lightfoot and several other family researchers who also feel that it is very likely that Martha Jane Dorsey Lightfoot is descended from Reverend Richard Lightfoot and his wife Jane Jones through their son, John and his son, Phillip, and his son, Phillip, and his son, Phillip. (There is a possibility that there could another Phillip in there....but it seems that the 3rd Phillip is the most likely one. Also, he was married to a Susannah ??....and there are two or three Susannah Dorsey's filtering through the Dorsey group....one of whom married Dorsey.....nothing concrete there on her.....just possibilities.) Mike Shaver has an extensive Descendants of Richard Lightfoot webpage at the following:
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/h/a/Michael-P-Shaver/GENE1-0001.html
But it all points right here from so many different lines and people that I have been speaking to. I believe that I wrote you about the Dorsey family in the mid-1700's that I had located in Maryland. They were originally out of England into Virginia and then moving over to Maryland. Every indication so far is that they are cousins to this Lightfoot line as they show up over and over again in the same vicinity of family trees just like the Lees of Virginia. Nicholas Dorsey had daughters, Martha, Lucretia and Elizabeth, I believe, with Frances and Francis showing up on their tree as well. Now, of course, these are common names of that time but these are definitely 'family' names with the rate of consistency that they show up on these different lines. And, on this line of Lightfoot that I am sending you information on the names of Martha, Jane, Elizabeth and Francis/Frances show up over and over and over again. There are many Phillips descended from many siblings starting with the children of Reverend Richard and Jane Jones Lightfoot's son John and his wife, Elizabeth Phillips. There are some other interesting aspects along the way as well but my brain is too tired at this moment to remember. Also, one interesting thing, personally, for me is that it appears at the moment that my grandfather, Louis Slaughter's family from his father, Hudson/Hutson Harris Slaughter is descended from the same Slaughter family that marries into the Lightfoot Slaughter branch of the Lightfoot's which descend from John Lightfoot, son of John and grandson of Richard. He was the brother of the first Phillip Lightfoot on this list, whom I believe is our ancestor. Of course, I am still digging and digging.......for that 'nail.' There are other things....but I have just been going over them and over them and over them before sharing because I wanted to get it down as solidly as possible first. OH! and one very interesting small tidbit that I just came across the other day is that there is apparently relatively substantive information on Capt. John Lightfoot having been married to a Cherokee woman and having children. I found some information on that and it refers to a 'Cherokee Planters' book....I'll get back to that info and send it over to you. Now, since he is the first of the line that lead to the Goodrich Lightfoots....I don't know if this would be the mother of that group or if this was, indeed, another wife. Capt. Lightfoot died in Surinam.....(which, coincidentally, I have been to.) Anyway....he is not in our direct line being brother to 'our' Phillip, the first one, but there could be a connection to our Indian information.....possibly. So, we'll see where it all goes. But, I just wanted you to have this right now. I'll send you more as I get a handle on it. I hope everything is going well with you. And I hope you had a lovely Christmas. I am still trying to recover from flu bug and infection I got from wisdom tooth I had pulled before New Year's Eve....really threw me off a bit. God Bless. Talk to you soon.
Date: 1/8/99 2:04:50 PM Central Standard Time
From: bellmer@narrows.com (Merle Bellmer)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I don't know if this is worth putting out for the whole list or not. You decide.
I read the message about the Creek Nation in OK Territory and the names of JOHN WILLIAM LOTT and BENJAMIN LOTT. My great grandfather was named JOHN WILLIAM LOTT, and his brother was BENJAMIN J. LOTT, and they DID come to TX. However, they were not even born by 1828, much less come to TX then. I realize these are fairly common names, but when associated together and in regards to TX, they become slightly less common.
The JOHN WILLIAM LOTT, that I know was b. March 14, 1845, Carrollton, Carroll Co. MS. He was on the 1850, '60 and '70 censuses in Carroll Co. MS. (Head of household in 1870, child in previous censuses.) He died Mar. 8, 1900, Rains Co. TX, after having lived in Denton Co. for the 1880 census. Judging from the states of birth of his children, he came to TX between 1872 and 1875.
Benjamin was b. Jan. 24, 1833. Benjamin was b. in Pickens Co. AL (on the way from SC to Carroll Co. MS). He was on the 1850, '60, and '70 censuses in Carroll Co. MS. (Child on the 1850 census and head of household by 1860.) He died Feb. 26, 1879, Lewisville, Denton Co. TX. Judging by the states of birth of his children, he came to TX between 1873 and 1875. It seems likely that the two brothers brought their families to TX at the same time.
I don't know if Joe is suggesting that the John William and Benjamin Lott that he referred to were the same as these two, if so, it would be impossible.
Thanks, Dot
Date: 1/8/99 7:52:36 PM Central Standard Time
From: STCASEY01@worldnet.att.net (Sandra T. Casey)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Very interesting message that you forwarded. Is Joe an Indian, too? Sounds like the Lott boys must have run into the horse-rustling McClung boys. (This guy is interesting because my grandfather said there was no point in telling the family the name of the tribe because it was one with an unfamiliar name. As I've said before, he conveniently forgot his own grandmother's maiden name {LOTT}, and where she was born when he filled out Beulah McClung Evans' death certificate.)
Cuz, Sandra
Date: 1/8/99 9:37:25 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: sumik@cwix.com, JBarron933
Here is more I received on possible LIGHTFOOT family line.....
Bellinda
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT
Date: 12/29/98 3:59:37 AM Central Standard Time
From: kytroutman@usa.net (MDT)
Reply-to: kytroutman@usa.net (MDT)
To: BandB4951@aol.com
The name sounds familiar, yet, I can't find her, does any of this look familiar to you?
1. Phillip Lightfoot b. ABT 0 ___ 1643, Middlesex, England,1 (son of Hon. John Lightfoot I and Elizabeth Phillips) m. 28 Sep 1679, in VA,2 Alice Corbin, b. 0 ___ 1655,1 (daughter of Henry Corbin and Alice Eltonhead). Phillip died 0 ___ 1710, Gloucester, VA.1 The Honorable Philip Lightfoot came to the colony of VA before 1670 from England. He served as a Lieutenant Colonel and Justice of Gloucester County, 1680; Justice of James City County 1694-1699; Collector of Customs for Upper James River and Surveyor General. He registered his will in 1708 and died in 1710. His tomb is without date and bears arms "Lightfoot Impaling Corbin". (The coat of arms of both the Lightfoot and Corbin Families are displayed side by side.) Alice: Her sister Letitia married Richard Lee about 1674. They are the ancestors of Richard Henry Lee who introduced in Congress the resolution for American Independence and his brother Francis Lightfoot Lee, a signer of the Declaration of Independence.
Children:
+ 2. i Francis Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1687.
+ 3. ii Phillip Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1689.
Second Generation
2. Francis Lightfoot (1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1687, James City Co., VA,1 m. ABT 0 ___ 1720,1 Elizabeth, b. 0 ___ 1693, VA,1 d. 31 Dec 1727.3 Francis died 7 Jan 1727.3
Children:
4. i Francis Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1722,1 d. 14 May 1730.3
5. ii Elizabeth Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1725,1 m. 0 ___ 1737,4 Beverly Randolph, (son of William Randolph and Elizabeth Beverly).
3. Phillip Lightfoot (1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1689,3 m. 0 ___ 1720,1 Mary Armistead Burwell, (daughter of William Armistead and Ann Lee). Phillip died 30 May 1748, Sandy Point, Charles City Co., VA.3
(From Colonial Families of the Southern States of America, A History and Genealogy of Colonial Families who settled in the Colonies Prior to the Revolution, by Stella Pickett Hardy, Second Edith, Baltimore, Southern Book Co., 1958) The Honorable Phillip Lightfoot "of Sandy Point", Charles City Co., VA was also known as "The Merchant Prince". He owned large estates in York, Surrey, Charles City Brunswick, Goochland, New Kent and Hanover Counties; houses, storehouses, and lots on Yorktown, Williamsburg, Blandford; slaves, chariots, horses, cattle, etc... and amassed the immense Lightfoot fortune. He served as Clerk of York County, 1707-1733; Agent for Public Storehouses, 1715; King's Council, 1733; and was a liberal supporter of the Established Church. He left to the Yorktown Church a flagon and a chalice with arms engraved thereon and 40 pounds of goods to be given to the poor. He also left to William and Mary College, 500 pounds for the education of two young men for the ministry of the Church of England. He married Mary Armistead Burwell, who was the widow of the Honorable James Burwell.
"I give unto the Parish of York-Hampton the sum of fifty Pounds Current money to be laid out in the purchase of a handsome Flagged and Challace with my arms engraved thereon for the use of York church, and the sum of forty pounds current in Goods to be paid by my Executors into the hands of William Nelson, Esq., and son William Lightfoot, to be by them distributed amongst the poor of York-Hampton Parish. I give unto Elizabeth Burwell, the daughter of N. Burwell, deceased, three hundred Pounds to be paid her when she shall arrive at the age of twenty-one or marry with the approbation of her grandmother Lightfoot; but in case she dies before she is entitled, then I will and direct it go with the residue of my estate, the legacy being void. I give to the College of William and Mary the sum of five hundred Pounds Current, for a foundation for two poor scholars forever, to be brought up to the ministry of the Church of England or such other public employment as shall be most suitable to their capacities, which sum I desire my executors to pay to the President and Masters of the College within twelve months after my decease, to be laid out for that purpose, and its my will and desire that my son William Lightfoot have the nomination and preference of the first six scholars."
Mary: Widow of Hon. James Burwell
The will of Mrs. "Mary Lightfoot, of the Town and County of York, widow," was dated 9 Nov., 1771, and has two codicils dated respectively, 12 May, 1773, and 12 May, 1775. The whole was proved 21st Aug., 1775, and William Allen, Esq., one of the executors, acknowledged bond security, Joseph Hornsby, for obtaining probate. She mentions her daughter-in-law, Mildred Lightfoot; grandson, James Burwell; Anne Burwell, daughter of my grandson James; granddaughter Elizabeth Hewitt, wife of Rev. Richard Hewitt; daughter-in-law, Anne Lightfoot; granddaughters, Mary Allen, and Mildred Coles, Elizabeth Coles, Anne Lightfoot; sons, William Lightfoot, deceased, and Armistead Lightfoot, deceased; Mary, daughter of my son Armistead Lightfoot, deceased, and the legacy given her, if she should die before 21 to be equally divided between the surviving daughters of son William Lightfoot, deceased; grandsons. William Lightfoot and Philip Lightfoot; legacy of 20 £ to the poor people in the town of York; 20 £ each to Lewis Burwell of Kingsmill, William Allen of Surry, and the Rev. Richard Hewitt, whom she appoints executors; and by the last codicil, Fielding Lewis, Esq. Witnesses to the last codicil, David Jameson, David Jameson, Jr., William Barrow. (York records.). "Died, Mrs. Mary Lightfoot at York, relict of the late Hon Philip Lightfoot, Esq., one of his Majesty's council of this colony, in the 79th year of her age. Her corpse passed through town this morning to be deposited in the family vault at Sandy Point." (Va. Gazette, June 30, 1775).
Children:
+ 6. i William Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1722.
7. ii John Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1725,1 m. Mary "Molly" Clark, (daughter of James Clack and Mary). John died BEF 0 ___ 1769.3 Will dated 30 April 1751. pr. Nov. 6, 1751 Mary: Remarried to Robert Ruffin, had children by 2nd husband
+ 8. iii Phillip Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1728.
+ 9. iv Armisted Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1730.
Third Generation
6. William Lightfoot (3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1722,2 m.2 Mildred Howell. William died BEF 0 ___ 1771.2 Known as Honorable William Lightfoot of Teddington, served as High Sheriff of York Co., 1746.
Children:
10. i Francis Lightfoot b. 14 May 1747, Tedington,Sandy Point, VA,5 d. 24 Mar 1748.5
+ 11. ii William Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1750.
+ 12. iii Phillip Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1752.
13. iv Mary Lightfoot b. ABT 0 ___ 1755,1 m.2 William Allen, b. Surrey Co., VA.1 Mary died BEF 0 ___ 1789.2 William: Made his will Sept. 4, 1789, probated Sept. 24, 1793. Perhaps wealthiest man in his county of Surry. His will mentions children William, Patsy, Anne Armistead, John, Martha Bland; one grandson, William Allen Harrison; Miss Garrett to continue as tutoress & to be paid as heretofore 20 guineas per annum;
14. v Mildred Lightfoot b. ABT 0 ___ 1758,1 m.2 Walter Coles, b. Halifax Co., VA.1
+ 15. vi Elizabeth Lightfoot.
8. Phillip Lightfoot (3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1728,1 m.3 Susannah. Phillip died BEF 0 ___ 1747.3
Children:
16. i Francis Lightfoot b. CIR 0 ___ 1745,6 d. BEF 0 ___ 1773.3
9. Armisted Lightfoot (3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1730, Yorktown, VA,6 m. in Yorktown, VA,1 Ann "Nancy" Burwell, (daughter of Hon. Lewis Burwell and Mary Willis). Armisted died 19 Sep 1771, Yorktown, VA.3 Ann: Remarried in 1774 to Charles Grymes of Gloucester.
Children:
17. i Mary Lightfoot m.6 John Taylor Griffin. Thomas Nelson was her guardian in 1773.After Armistead died, she remarried to Hon. Charles Grymes of Glouchester, VA in 1774
Fourth Generation
11. William Lightfoot (6.William3, 3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1750,2 m. (1)2 Anne Cocke, m. (2) Anne Clopton Ellyson. William died 0 ___ 1809.2 Like his father, he was also known as William of Teddington, made his will April 27, 1809 and it was probated Aug. 17, 1809. See source, source indicates 2nd wife of Anne Clopton Ellyson who was the mother of the Robert Armistead and Sarah. Says she later married John Colgin. He imported many thoroughbred horses. Made will 27 Apr. 1809 and was probated 17 Aug. 1809
Children by Anne Cocke:
+ 18. i William Howell Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1779.
+ 19. ii Francis Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1780.
20. iii Phillip John Lightfoot m.2 Mary Ann Vaughn. Phillip died 0___ 1819.2 Made his will June 16, 1819, probated July 15, 1819
21. iv Mary Elizabeth Bolling Lightfoot m.2 George Blakely.
22. v Anne Cocke Lightfoot m.2 William Lewis.
Children by Anne Clopton Ellyson:
23. vi Robert Armistead Lightfoot.
24. vii Sarah Lightfoot.
12. Phillip Lightfoot (6.William3, 3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1752, Yorktown, VA,2 m.2 Mary Warner Lewis, (daughter of Charles Lewis and Lucy Taliaferro). Phillip died 0 ___ 1786, Cedar Creek, Carolina Co., VA.2 Served with distinction as a Lietenant in the Revolutionary War in Harrison's Artillery and received two land grants for his service. Mary: She was noted for her great beauty and grace. She 2nd married Dr. John Bankheand, nephew of President Monroe.
Children:
+ 25. i Phillip Lightfoot b. 24 Sep 1784.
15. Elizabeth Lightfoot (6.William3, 3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) m. 1 Apr 1771,5 Isaac Coles, b. 25 Feb 1747, Richmond, Henrico Co., VA,5 (son of John Coles and Mary Winston). Isaac: He married 2nd Catherine Thompson 2 Jan. 1790.
Isaac Coles was Colonel of his County, a member of the First Congress of the United States, lived as an agriculturist, first in Halifax and then in Pittsylvania, in which county he died 2 June 1813. Isaac Coles of Pittsylvania County, deceased; WILL, sons, John and Jacob T. Coles and Nancy, his wife; Thomas Woodring; Land known as Lightfoot's Meadows.
Gen. Washington's Diary - Sunday 5th 1791, Left the Old Town about 4 o'clock am, breakfasted at one Pridie's after crossing Banister River 1 ½ miles about 11 miles from ____ it came to Staunton River about 12, where meeting Col. Isaac Coles (formerly a member of Congress from this District) who pressing me to it, I went to his home about 1 mile off to dine and to halt a day for the refreshment of myself and horses, leaving my servants and them at one of the usually indifferent taverns at the Ferry that they might be no trouble or be inconvenient to a Private Family.
Children:
26. i John Coles b. 20 Oct 1772,5 d. 27 Jul 1781.5
27. ii Isaac Coles b. 16 Dec 1777,5 m. 7 Feb 1811,5 Lightfoot Carrington. Isaac died 28 Sep 1820.5
28. iii Lightfoot Coles b. 12 Jun 1780,5 d. 4 Dec 1781.5 LFA lists this person as the daughter?
Fifth Generation
18. William Howell Lightfoot (11.William4, 6.William3, 3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1779,2 m.2 Sarah Short Steward. William died 0 Jun 1810.3 Sarah: She remarried to John Minge of Charles City Co., VA. John Minge's first wife was youngest daughter of Benjamin Harrison, signer and sister of Wm. H. Harrison.
Children:
29. i William Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1806,2 d. 27 Oct 1831.3
19. Francis Lightfoot (11.William4, 6.William3, 3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b. 0 ___ 1780, Tedington,Sandy Point, VA,5 m.5 Elizabeth Virginia Nicholas, d. 0 Oct 1814.5 Francis died 3 Nov 1813.5
Children:
30. i William Allen Lightfoot b. 8 Apr 1806, Tedington,Sandy Point, VA,5 m.5 Caroline Matilda Guerrant. William died 22 Sep 1881.5 His mother died when he was very young, an uncle took him to Avonia, in Buckingham Co., VA. His father died earlier. He lived on his own estate of several hundred acres near the Slate River in VA. When he became ill, he & his wife were taken to the home of his youngest son, James Anderson Lightfoot. He died at night and his wife died the next morning. She was well, out in the yard picking flowers, when told her husband died, the doctor said she died of a broken heart.
31. ii John Francis Lightfoot b. 28 Jul 1809, Tedington,Sandy Point, VA,5 occupation Doctor.5
32. iii Virginia Carter Nicholas Lightfoot b. 8 May 1811, Tedington,Sandy Point, VA.5
33. iv Carter Lightfoot b. Tedington,Sandy Point, VA.5
25. Phillip Lightfoot (12.Phillip4, 6.William3, 3.Phillip2, 1.Phillip1) b.
24 Sep 1784, Port Royal, Carolina Co., VA,3 m. ABT 0 ___ 1805,1 Sarah Sevin Bernard, (daughter of William Bernard and Fanny Hopkins). Phillip died 22 Jul 1865.3 He took a prominent and active part in public affairs, and was a Confederate Patriot.
Children:
34. i Dr. Phillip Lewis Lightfoot b. ABT 0 ___ 1806, Port Royal, Carolina Co., VA,1 m. (1)2 Mary Virginia Smith, b. 6 Feb 1818,1 (daughter of George Smith and Delia) d. 17 Mar 1855,6 m. (2)2 Anna Isabelle Drummond, b. 3 Oct 1827, Brunswick Co., VA,1 (daughter of Grieve Drummond and Elizabeth Stone) d. 30 Aug 1861, Eutaw, Green Co., AL.1 Dr. died Eutaw, Green Co., AL,1 buried: Oak Hill Cemetery.6
35. ii William Bernard Lightfoot b. 16 Dec 1811, Port Royal, Carolina Co., VA,3 m. (1)2 Roberta Beverly, m. (2) 0 ___ 1835, in Eutaw, Green Co., AL,1 Sarah Bee Ross, b. Mobile, AL.1 William died 5 Feb 1870, Mobile, AL.3 Graduate of University of Va, large cotton planter, had a fine estates with many slaves and lived the life of a southern gentleman previous to the Civil War. Roberta: She died about 6 months after their marriage. Sarah: Also listed as children are, Sarah Bernard Lightfoot m. Robert Tarleton, Nora Meade Lightfoot m. William Reynolds, and Helen Virginia Lightfoot (unmarried).
36. iii John Bernard Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1813,1 m.2 Harriet Field.
37. iv Edgar Vivien Lightfoot b. 0 ___ 1815.1
38. v Fannie Bernard Lightfoot m.2 Capt. Robert Gilchrist Robb. Capt.: Served as Captain in US and later Confederate Navy.
39. vi Ellen Bankhead Lightfoot m.2 Dr. Carter Wormley.
40. vii Mary Lewis Lightfoot m.2 Mr. Vail. Mary died England.3
41. viii Rosalie Virginia Lightfoot m. Hugh Mason.
1 Mike Shaver, email received Jan. 1998
2 From Colonial Families of the Southern States of America, A History and Genealogy of Colonial Families who Settled Prior to the Revolution, by Stella Pickett Hardy, Baltimore Southern Book Co., 1958
3 William and Mary Quarterly, Historical Magazine, Vol. III, 1894-1895. reprinted 1966
4 Lightfoot Assoc., Vol. 4, April-May-June 1981, Number 2
5 Lightfoot Family Assoc. Vol. II, Oct. 15, 1979, No. 4
6 Lightfoot Family Assoc. Vol. II, Apr. 15, 1979, No. 2&3
-----Original Message-----
From: BandB4951@aol.com <BandB4951@aol.com>
To: kytroutman@usa.net <kytroutman@usa.net>
Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 10:09 AM
Subject: PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT
Dear Maria,
Hello. First of all, thank you for providing your website for the use of others researching their family history. I am trying to find out more information of my gggg grandmother MARTHA JANE DORSEY LIGHTFOOT's ancestry. My understanding is that she descended from PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT (VA) and MARY ??, which I believe to be MARY ARMISTEAD, but not certain of, son of PHILLIP and ALICE CORBIN, but not certain of, and PHILLIP the son of JOHN, the son of RICHARD LIGHTFOOT (England.) MARTHA JANE DORSEY LIGHTFOOT (NC and Old Spanish Florida) married ABSALOM LOTT (NC & Old Span. Fla.) son of JOHN LOTT (Va and England) and ELIZABETH JOYNER (VA, father JOHN JOYNER and mother ELIZABETH BROWN, of Dorset, England) and her daughter, my ggg grandmother, FRANCES LUCRETIA LOTT (NC to MS to LA) married WILLIAM HATTEN, and their son, LAWRENCE HATTEN and wife FRANCES GRISHAM had their son, CICERO HATTEN (LA) who married ETHEL ROSALIE HATTEN WOMACK (widow of JOSEPH WOMACK) and she married LOUIS SLAUGHTER (son of HUDSON/HUTSON HARRIS SLAUGHTER of North Carolina to Louisian) and their daughter, my mother, LA VERNE SLAUGHTER (LA) married BILL MYRICK (LA to MS). If you have any information which could help me...I would be most grateful. In advance I thank you very much.
Sincerely, Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 1/9/99 6:08:11 AM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
friend John all american Indian records can be viewed at any National Archives,also I would like to tell the lotts when asking for info. if they call the Nations do not refer to Indians as kings or princess because there is no such thing, A chiefs family had no standing in a nation, and it is in bad form. Would like to say on the Lightfoot name is not a Indian name but became one in NC. and S>C> it goingto be the wifes name that will have the Indian name .
Joe Davis
Date: 1/9/99 11:19:22 AM Central Standard Time
From: dflott@telepak.net (Marce Lott)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
john,
With all this talk about indian blood, I decided to get a copy of the Treat of Dancing Rabbit Creek. It is enclosed for your info. I find no one I can definite attach to the Lott name. There's no ... Bogue ... anything in any of the indian names.
Oh, I also found some more Robert A. Lott info from FL records. Will dig them out again this weekend and pass them along.
Has Shirley passed along the 22 Lott names she has found in indian records? Would be interested to see them. The John William and Benjamin Lott names are of interest for several reasons.
Dan
Date: 1/9/99 9:24:44 PM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, not be making my self clear or people are not reading the information correct. The John and Benjamin Lott I am reffering to did not come from Ms. I beleive I made my self clear on that issue. The Texas Lotts mentioned, was in a memorandum along with Thomas Watts who died in Smith Cty Texas of a snake bite it did not mention the year they went to Texas, and it told of Arthur Lott and as I said thi document is hard to read but we can make out that one the Lotts brother was killed and someones wife drowned while crossing the river, but you can not make out which one. Now the Lotts, lets define them as Creek Lotts so we can keep them seperated These Lotts coming from Georgia. the Creeks were not removed from Ms and people should realize that. The first letter written June 3rd 1828 from Indian Camp near Ft. Bainridge Creek Station, 2nd letter July 18th 1828 these letters are signed by Benjham, John William Lott along with David Pieogen Th Lock Tuu Cheeh Artis, Harjo, Co Be Ok Olo, Potoch, Margo Thlatch, Le Harjo and many others. They went to Arkansas, the relationship between ark and Smith Cty Texas, Ark is where the first Indians went during this period of time and thru Texas where Smith Cty was, I believe before Smith Cty became that name is was called an Indian name and I believe if my memory serves me right Smith Cty became a county around 1846. I know I said before this was a Spanish holding but I was mistaken this was a French holding. In these areas of Ark & Texas many Indian researchers go right to theses places for mixed blood for genealogy work. Now pertaining to the two Creek Lotts, how they got from Ark into Okla, in these areas the Indians were again removed 1835 in these particular areas, These two particular Lotts ended up in Big Springs. I have a list of these early Lotts women and children and they are the most common Lott names. I have only seen two or three first names in language rest are english names. As I said before anyone can go to the National Archives, all Indian Records are housed there. Enrollment records of different periods of time and each Nations Agency Records are there to be viewed and so far from researching all five tribes of the south, only one holds enrollments for the family name Lott, there are no Lotts in any other tribal enrollments. There are no Lotts on any Treaty of the Five Civilized Tribes. If one has lets say an Indian Name it will not take the place of the English speaking name\, and it would only describe this particular individual, obviously in theses periods there were no names for Tom Dick and Harry,, A pronoun would be substituted to try and describe the name.
Joe
Date: 1/9/99 9:47:04 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933
I don't know, John. I have to take a closer look at that. I wondered about that (ref: PATSY) as well...and I think I looked at it closer....can't remember if I left that open to come back to or if I thought that it was the wrong timeline but I'm going back to it...and I hope I have more to add to that. Also...I came up with another Phillip further down from that one that we thought looked possible due to the timeline...but I think he is one that one of my Lightfoot people told me didn't have children and another one that never married but was in the right timeline. It keeps coming back to this line and, probably, Phillip (3) or (4)....anyway.....still pursuing this diligently and hope to turn up more soon. I have contacted some of the Corbin researchers that are from the family that Phillip 1's wife is from Alice CORBIN, daughter of Henry CORBIN and Alice Eltonshead, families, also, out of England and the CORBIN family descends from the SPENCER, d' SPENCER family.
Just working on the correct placement of all of it still. I'll get back with you later.
Bellinda
Date: 1/9/99 9:57:46 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, sumik@cwix.com
FYI......I believe I mentioned in the other info....maybe not......there is a CAPT. JOHN LIGHTFOOT, the brother of the original COLONEL PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT (1) out of England into Virginia, sons of JOHN LIGHTFOOT and ELIZABETH PHILLIPS that was an adventurer and a sea captain. Captain John LIGHTFOOT died in Surinam (where, strangely enough, I have visited) and is, apparently, a rather elusive figure in LIGHTFOOT history, finding out precisely what all has happened to him according to one of the main LIGHTFOOT family researchers. The GOODRICH LIGHTFOOT family group as it links up with my SLAUGHTER line, I believe, is descended from Capt. John. In pursuance of all of my information the other day I came across information about a CAPTAIN JOHN LIGHTFOOT that had married a CHEROKEE wife and had children. I am currently trying to track down information on that further. Apparently, there are references to him in a book about and/or called 'CHEROKEE PLANTERS.' I am currently trying to track back to this information for the LIGHTFOOT family researchers. When I get back to it I will send it over to you as well. So, indeed, there would be some Indian family members with the names of LIGHTFOOT. I, also, think it was on the CREEK rolls that I found mention of LIGHTFOOT names....I know I saw LOTT names. Still looking there as well. But.....one of the most important things that I have been told to remember is that if the family....all or in part....did not go on the Trail of Tears that they would not be listed on the rolls and that makes it even harder for them to found and identified. I would think that the possibilities of this being the case would be even greater for this particular group of LIGHTFOOT and LOTT family members since they were from affluence, apparently, across the board from all that I can ascertain at this time. I'll let you know when and if I find anything more definitive than this.
Bellinda
Date: 1/9/99
To: dflott@telepak.net
Thanks Dan. I made a link to one list of signers of the Treaty of Dancing R and I'll see if your is the same. I couldn't find anyone in it either. Frankly, it seems absurd to me that the Lotts of Marion/Covington Co. would be mixed with Indians. These people were state legislators, judges, county commissioners, etc. Gone With the Wind types. Hardly the sort, but who knows. There has to be something to it, however, since every Lott/Watts descendant that I have run across has heard about some sort of "Indian Connection." Just wish we could come up with it.
Don't think I have a list of the Lotts on the Indian rolls, but I'll have to check.
John
Date: 1/10/99 3:21:10 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: sumik@cwix.com, JBarron933, joe@lottfamily.com
Hi,
I'm sending over a 'blue link' to pop over to Maria Troutman's LIGHTFOOT and other families genealogy website. Genealogy Data you can use the address as follows:
http://pweb.interquest.de/~troutman/dat8.htm
If you will scroll down on the page one of the first areas of information that you will see that, speculatively, applies to our MARTHA JANE DORSEY LIGHTFOOT is Elizabeth PHILLIPS and the children that she had with her husband, John LIGHTFOOT....however, something interesting, if you will scroll down just a little further to Jane JONES who married Reverend Richard LIGHTFOOT, there children include a MARTHA LIGHTFOOT, born: abt. 1602, prob. @ Stoke Bruion, England, she is the sister of JOHN LIGHTFOOT, whom I and others are deducing is our ancestor, father of PHILLIP (1.) Nothing conclusiver, most certainly, just another point to note. This website does not offer an extensive look into our PHILLIP LIGHTFOOT line but a little to think about. Pardon me if this is one of the things that I have already sent. I'm working pretty quickly on some things here and I didn't think I had sent this yet. I will continue sending more as I 'unearth' it from files I've been saving and bookmarked locations.
Bellinda
Date: 1/10/99 5:09:46 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: BandB4951, sumik@cwix.com, JBarron933
To: joe@lottfamily.com
CORBIN FAMILY If Martha Jane Dorsey Lightfoot descends from the Phillip Lightfoot that it seems she does then she would be descended from Alice Corbin, daughter of Henry Corbin and Alice Eltonshead in this Corbin Family webpage. Address is as follows:
htt://pages.prodigy.com/MD/gamma/corbin.html
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 1/11/99 3:54:23 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: light123@telepath.com
CC: JBarron933, joe@lottfamily.com, sumik@cwix.com
Hi, Tom,
First of all, I would like to mention that I am forwarding this information to some of my LOTT family researchers in our pursuit of some other information regarding some possible Indian descent for some LOTT family members that has, also, been hard to find.
In response to your interest in acquiring more information on precisely whatever did happen to the elusive CAPTAIN JOHN LIGHTFOOT... when I mentioned to you that I had seen some type of information regarding his having married a CHEROKEE woman and their having had children...I am now writing you. I finally found where it was that I saw the information about Captain John LIGHTFOOT. It took me the longest time to find it. I was thinking I had seen it out on a personal webpage. But instead, it is in a posting over on Gen Forum on the LIGHTFOOT pages. The information is in a posting of September 03, 1998 at 00:45:02 by Phyllis STOVALL under the heading RE: PHILIP LIGHTFOOT of Culpeper Co, VA. The message reads:
<CAPT. JOHN LIGHTFOOT also had a Cherokee wife and had a number of children by her. Those who believe they are related to this line should research Cherokee books by MOONEY and TYNER.>
This posting was in reference to a posting by L.W. CATES on August 26, 1998. And Phyllis STOVALL posted a follow up on September 12, 1998 at 21:40:46 titled Re: PHILIP LIGHTFOOT of Culpeper Co, VA
The message reads:
<I have finally found the correct reference for CAPT. JONN LIGHTFOOT. Check CHEROKEE PLANTERS IN GEORGIA by DON L. SHADBURN.>
That is all I have on the matter at this time, Tom. But I will continue to keep my eyes open and I will let you know of any and all information that I might find regarding the dear Captain. Even though he would not be in my direct line of descendancy to my Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT, if it all proves correct,....I feel a special 'kindredship' to him already as he died in SURINAM, which is a place I visited some years ago. It was a wonderful adventuresome trip for me....especially when I crossed over pirhana infested waters by canoe!....it must have been incredibly even more so for him around 1700. When I was there we visited Amer-Indian villages over in French Guyana, I believe, and in SURINAM we visited what are called 'BUSH NEGRO' (Nay-gro) Villages where the villages were exactly like the ones the Africans who escaped off the slaveships offshore of SURINAM created. Apparently, it was the main place that they pulled into port on their way from Africa to America transporting slaves. I think it was a Dutch Colony at that time, if I have my time frame correct. So, I am especially interested in finding out whatever I can as well on his other adventures if possible. If you have any idea as to where I could acquire the book that Phyllis STOVALL speaks of would you please let me know as I would be most interested in having a copy? So far, I am not pulling up anything on it on the Internet but I haven't tried all resources yet. Let me know if this yields anything for you.
Sincerely,
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 1/12/99 8:20:24 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
Hi, John and Lucy,
On the Deshultz....I will try and remember....there was another website where I found the Deshultz named as being married, I believe, to someone different than in Martha's name...I can't remember right off hand....it was a brother, a son, a cousin, an uncle....something like that....as I saw it on that website. It may take me awhile to track it down...but I 'll get back with you.
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 1/12/99 11:16:02 PM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, Yes I will sent you a copy of the cherokee application for the descendants of Nathan Lott and in this application it names his parents and Arthur Lott's wife. They are other Lotts who applied to the Cherokee Nation along with Elbert Watts who was living at the time in the Chickasaw Nation. The memorandum attached to this application names Arthur Lott and Family who left for Indian Terr. which includes Thomas Watts. The importance I beleive here is the writing of all the family descendants parents and children, in many cases who they married, which they wouldn't have been eligible because of the state where they lived.. I will also sent you copies of Creek Enrollment documentation. Also John the gentleman who answered on Benjaham Lott who went to Texas, I believe he had sent something around before that his family had went to Texas and has stayed at the home of JP Lott. I also have enrollment for him and his family. Here's something different an individual Tom Lott born in Oklahoma Terr. in 1832 married a Nancy Toney. Their daughter married a Reese which became Eliz. Watts. In any case generations on down oral history from this Toney & Reese family claims Tom Watt was the son of Nathan Lott and Diecy Watts. Although I have never found any evidence myself. Although I keep it in mind I wound't put it in my documentation with proof. But I am convinced that the MS Lotts knew the Creek Lotts. And most of these TX & MS Lotts was charged with bootlegging in Indian Territory according to United States Marshal Records. I guess the boys need to make a few extra bucks. So sent me a mailing address and I will get these in the mail to you.
Joe
Date: 1/12/99
To: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
CC: BandB4951
In a message dated 1/11/99 3:08:07 PM Central Standard Time, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu writes:
<< What do you think about the name Dorsey/Darsey for Absalom's wife, Martha Ann Dorsey LIGHTFOOT, dau. of Philip (III?). Think she was a widow of a LIGHTFOOT with maiden name DORSEY or do you think its her middle name. Unusual to have middle names like that at this time. >>>>>>>>
I never heard of a woman from that time with a middle name. It would help to know where they were married. Absalom Lott was in West Florida (now MS) in 1780 and they were supposedly married in 1781. Not sure what to make of all of this.
<<<<< Also whatever happened to the name Deschultz? Can you get Deschults out of Dorsey if you play with it enough? I'm confused about who the Indian was. Was it a WATTS wife or a LOTT wife? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
The "affidavit" of John A. Lott which originated from Bartlet Watts is the one that mentions Deschultz. Don't think it's a corruption of Dorsey, though, do you? The Indian girl was supposedly connected to both the Lott and Watts line. Absalom's wife would, of course, do that.
Date: 1/13/99 8:41:15 AM Central Standard Time
From: lbarron@fas.harvard.edu (Lucy Barron)
To: BandB4951@aol.com, JBarron933@aol.com
Could it be possible that he didn't go back to NC to marry? If he was "hiding out" in Florida, it could have been risky.
If Martha's mother was an Indian, it might make sense that her father also married/lived there or at least the mother as they probably would not have been accepted in Virginia society, would they?
Perhaps Spanish records would have the marriage?
Lucy
Date: 1/13/99 11:20:18 PM Central Standard Time
From: aridlon@jvlnet.com (Angela Ridlon)
To: jbarron933@aol.com ('jbarron933@aol.com')
John, I have looked at several of your pages and believe that I might be able to eventually make a connection to my grandfather's family. As of now, I only go back to his father, John Calvin Lott, born Sept. 29, 1889.
Angela Ridlon
Date: 1/14/99 9:04:15 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: mrader@juno.com
CC: JBarron933
Thank you so very much for calling this to my attention!!!! You're absolutely right.....don't know if this was my typo or someone elses.....but regardless.......
My grandmother, Ethel Rosalie HATTEN married first husband: Joseph Marion WOMACK and second husband, Louis SLAUGHTER, (son of Hudson/Hutson H./Harris SLAUGHTER , son of Susan CROUCH, daughter of Samuel CROUCH, and John M. SLAUGHTER, of NC,) is the daughter of Cicero HATTEN, son of Francis Elizabeth GRISHAM, mother named FORD, and Della JONES. (If anyone has any information on Della JONES, please let me know, as I have nothing on her except for a picture of her with my Grandmother Ethel Rosalie HATTEN WOMACK SLAUGHTER and my mother, La Verne SLAUGHTER MYRICK and myself as a baby, Bellinda Gail MYRICK BARNETT.)
and another mistake is
(Ethel) LA VERNE SLAUGHTER is married to Billy Earle MYRICK......on the email it stated BYRICK with a B
I will forward this on over to John BARRON and the LOTT CIRCLE to make sure that we correct it. Thanks again! And, I have received some new information on the GRISHAM and FORD lines that are ancestors and siblings to Frances Elizabeth GRISHAM, the wife of Lawrence (died POW at Camp Chase, OH, Civil War) son of Frances Lucretia LOTT and William HATTEN.) If anyone is interested in that contact me and I'll send over.....will send it over to whole group shortly. I'm not sure...but I think this is new information for LOTT CIRCLE.
Sincerely,
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 1/12/99 9:20:10 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
Oh, and one other thing I was thinking about, regarding the time frame during which it appears that Martha Jane and Absalom married.....it would seem most likely that they married in Old Spanish Florida as it was before the time that they married that he took an oath of allegiance, if my memory is serving me correctly......????? But, of course, he could have gone back to North Carolina to get married. And.....I am still going back to look more....but there are either relatives of Lightfoot, Dorsey or both that I found living in Florida around that same time period.....could just be coincidental or ???
Bellinda
Date: 1/14/99
To: lcgoings@i-55.com
Linda, don't give up on the web page too soon. Try typing in the following: http://members.aol.com/jbarron933/ or clicking again on the following: John Barron's Home Page
If you can't get to it at home, try at a library, etc. Let me know results.
Meantime, I am attaching a 4 generation chart starting with the earliest Lott that I know about, John Lott, who was in Bertie Co., NC, by 1734. My line is from his grandson Arthur who was born about 1750 in NC. Yours that you cited would be from great-grandson Robert born about 1760.
Understand that these are my conclusions from the evidence that I have seen without too much regard to the huge amount of traditional information that swirls about this family like few others I have seen including numerous claims of Indian ancestry. My conclusions are not totally accepted by all in the Lott Circle including the very good genealogists, Dan Lott and Joseph Lott, who feel that Elizabeth Joyner was the wife of John 2 and not John 1 as I think. There are, of course, other differences, but genealogy is a never ending series of additions and changes.
John Barron
Date: 1/15/99 9:26:18 AM Central Standard Time
From: JLott1224
To: JBarron933
I don't know anything about Alonzo Paulk but maybe I can contact someone who does know. Where were/are this couple and what is the time frame? The Lott and Paulk family has been associated with since back in the 1800's. I don't know your location but the earliest record is they were in Willacoochee, Georgia. Could this be the same family?
Date: 1/15/99 12:28:22 PM Central Standard Time
From: DMatt61035
To: JBarron933
Alonzo Paulk was born before 1863 his Dad Alonzo Paulk was born 7-14-1839 So he was probably born about 1859 or so his mother was Anna Jane Merritt Alonzo married Lucy Lott daughter of Arthur Lott and Eliza carver she was born 9-1867 They were married in 7-23-1935 in Coffee county Ga. Lucy was born in Coffee County Ga. She died in Ambrose Coffee county Ga. they had 4 children alonzo paulk III, birdayle Mytrice Paulk, Daniel Jacob Paulk (my grandfather), John Manasseh Paulk..
I have this history back to 1655 they were from Wales or England.. I am trying to find out why there are so few records on Alonzo and Lucy and why there are no records on Daniel Jacob. Questions, questions etc.
Any help would be great..
Kay
Date: 1/16/99 1:05:32 AM Central Standard Time
From: campbird@detnet.com (Harlan & Frances Camp)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, I was reading the memo sent from Joe to you, to be forwarded to Robert A.Lott. In it, as you know, was mentioned the names of Nathan Lott who applied to the Cherokee Nation along with his parents, Arthur Lott and Sarah Ann Clapp, is this correct? Also a Thomas Watts? Do you have any information, yet that says that Sarah Ann Clapp was an Indian?I am interested in this because Arthur and Sarah are my gggGrand parents.Their daughter, Patience m.William Thomas Watts, who were my gggrandparents.
Sincerely, Harlan & Frances Camp
Date: 1/16/99 8:28:50 PM Central Standard Time
From: bfreeman@usit.net (Beverly Freeman)
To: LOTT-L@rootsweb.com
Hi group, I'm new to the list and hoping to find some relatives and share information. I've been stuck for a while at my third great grandfather, John Lott, born 1817 in TN. I don't know where in Tennessee that he was born, nor do I have the names of his parents or siblings. Both the census and my grandfather say that his parents were born in Kentucky.
John married twice and fathered nine children. I have descendants of 7 that I will be happy to share and would like information about his daughter, Martha, and his son, Robert.
Anyone have information about the Lott family in Kentucky that could connect?
Many families from my other lines continued south, or west, perhaps his parents and siblings went to MS or TX?
Any help that you may offer will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Beverly
Date: 1/17/99
To: bfreeman@usit.net
Beverly, I am researching a group of 3 Lott brothers who came to what is now Texas in the mid-1830s. They were John, Arthur, and Robert A. Lott and in 1836 were living in Washington Co., Rep. of Texas. This John had a son named John Sharp Lott. John Sharp served in the Mexican War of 1846 and afterward left the state. He was said the have been a "guiding light in the horse racing industry of Tennessee and Kentucky for years afterward. I've never been able to find him on any census. Can you give me some more details of the John Lott that you referred to, such as census listings, names of children, etc.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 1/19/99 2:47:39 PM Central Standard Time
From: bfreeman@usit.net (Beverly Freeman)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi John,
When was your John Sharp Lott born? Do you know if John, Arthur, and Robert A. Lott ever lived in TN or KY? I have been unable to locate my John Lott, b. 1817 before the 1850 census in McNairy Co., TN, where he lived for the remainder of his life, as far as I know.
1850 census of McNairy Co., TN, 11th district, p. 1460:
John Lott, male, age 32, farmer, b. TN
Elizabeth, female, age 25, b.TN
William, male, age 9, b. TN
Daniel, male, age 5, b. TN
Martha, female, age 2, b. TN
1860 census of McNairy Co., TN, district 8, Anderson Store, p.77:
John Lott, male, age 40, farmer, b. TN
Mary J., female, age 30, b. TN
William H., male, age 15, b. TN
John R., male, age 8, b. TN
Robert L., male, age 4, b. TN
Sarah A., female, age 1, b. TN
Eliza D., female, age 1, b. TN
1870 census ( I don't have info. from)
1880 census McNairy Co., TN, district 16:
John Lott, male, age 60, farmer, b. TN, father b. KY, mother b. KY
M.J., female, age 52, wife, b. TN, father b. TN, mother b. TN
Sarah, female, age 21, daughter, b. TN, father b. TN, mother b. TN
Thomas J., male, age 18, son, b. TN, father b. TN, mother b. TN
N.E., female, age 16, daughter, b. TN, father b. TN, mother b. TN
Two sons and their families are also listed in the 1880 census.
I can't help wondering if your John Sharp Lott and my John Lott could be the same?
John Lott family:
Known wives and children of John Lott were as follows:
John Lott, b. 1817
m.1) Elizabeth L. "Betsy" Robins, b.1824
ch: William Harrison Lott, b.1841
Daniel Hugh Lott, b. 1846
Martha Lott, b.ca. 1848
John Robins Lott, b.1853
Robert L. Lott, b. ca. 1855
m.2) Mary Jane (possibly Taylor?)
ch: Sarah A. Lott, b. 1859
Eliza D. Lott, b. 1860
Thomas J. Lott, b. 1862
Nancy E. Lott, b.1864
My line is: John Lott, b.1817, John Robins Lott, b.1853, Harmon Sheryl Lott, b.1880, Jarmon Ova Lott, b.1904, Beverly Lott, b. 1947.
Thanks so much for inviting me to be a part of your group,
Beverly
Date: 1/20/99
To: bfreeman@usit.net
In a message dated 1/19/99 2:47:39 PM Central Standard Time, bfreeman@usit.net writes:
<< When was your John Sharp Lott born? Do you know if John, Arthur, and Robert
A. Lott ever lived in TN or KY? >>
Beverly, thanks for the info on your John Lott. I passed it on to the group. The above Lott brothers that I am researching were born in Georgia and came to Mississippi about 1805 with their father and other relatives. They were never in TN or KY to my knowledge. John Sharp Lott was born about 1820 in MS and supposedly went to TN/KY about 1850. I don't believe that he is the same man as your ancestor. Too bad, might have "killed" two birds with one stone, huh?
John Barron
Date: 1/20/99 11:57:53 AM Central Standard Time
From: garylott@juno.com (GARY LOTT)
To: JBarron933@aol.com, MikMP@aol.com
mary elizabeth magee, 2nd wife of thomas watkins lott, marriage date jan.24, 1866 he descended from arthur (killed by indians) son solomon lott
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:09:19 EST JBarron933@aol.com writes:
GARY
Date: 1/22/99 10:41:28 AM Central Standard Time
From: vherrin@medicine.umsmed.edu (Vince Herrin)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
I am trying to help collect information on the descendants of Nathan and Dicey [Watts] Lott. I have enclosed a listing of their children as compiled by the group I'm working with. Please share this with the Lott Circle; I invite comments on this list and any tie-ins.
One specific question: son #1 (child #2) William Lott had a son Thomas Jefferson Lott who moved to Ellis County, TX. Am particularly interested to know if you've come across this family in your Texas Lott research.
Thanks. Vince
Date: 1/22/99 4:46:49 PM Central Standard Time
From: garylott@juno.com (GARY LOTT)
CORRECTION::::::::::::::::::::::::
WED 20 JAN 1999, I WROTE IN ERROR THAT MARY ELIZABETH MAGEE WAS 2ND WIFE OF THOMAS WATKINS LOTT. SORRY!!!!!! CORRECT AS FOLLOWS
THOMAS WATKINS LOTT 1st MARRIED MARY ELIZABETH MAGEE ON JAN 24, 1866
CHILDREN WERE FLORENCE, JESSE, SIMON, THOMAS, LUCY.
W.B. MOORE ALSO ADDED EDWARD b.1866, AND BIRTH OF THOMAS 1869.
THOMAS WATKINS LOTT 2nd MARRIED SARAH ELIZABETH RAWLS.
CHILDREN: REBECCA 1879, JOHN 1883, MARGARET ANN 1885, GEORGE HERMON 1890, MATTIE 1890, SALLY 1891, RUBY 1892, SOLOMON CLARENCE 1897.
IN FTW PROGRAM, THE WRONG SPOUSE WAS HIGHLIGHTED. I MUST HAVE BEEN IN A HURRY.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE OVERSIGHT.
GARY
Date: 1/24/99 6:33:04 PM Central Standard Time
From: bfreeman@usit.net (Beverly Freeman)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John, thanks for forwarding me the information about Elizabeth Magee. Do you have dates or places? I don't have Elizabeth Magee in my files, but I do have Robert L. Lott, b. ca, 1855, the son of John Lott, that I have been unable to trace. I will keep your message and forward anything that I might find for Elizabeth to you. I went to your web page and was really impressed! You have done a lot of work on the Lott family.
Your Harmon Lott, b. 1835, Covington Co., MS made me take notice. My grandfather was Harmon Sheryl Lott, b.TN. I had to wonder if he could have been named for your Harmon?
Does the name Ben Black Sharp mean anything to you? I am thinking of your John Sharp Lott. The name Ben Black Sharp was mentioned in an old newspaper article, where the son of John Lott, b. 1817, was being interviewed on his 84th Birthday about the old times in McNairy Co., TN.
John Sharp Lott being in the horse racing industry in TN and KY interests me also. I had not heard that before.
Hoping to hear from you again soon, Beverly
Date: 1/26/99
To: bfreeman@usit.net
Thanks Beverly. I had not heard of him, but it is interesting to note that Jack Sharp Lott's aunt by marriage in Texas (widow of Arthur Lott) married Pliney Black about 1848 which was just about the time that Lott left for Tenn. Might be a connection.
The Lotts interest in horse racing went back awhile. Legend was that Robert A. Lott brought a string of fine horses to Texas in 1836 and I have a record of him dealing in horses in 1825 in Marion Co., MS. His brother John (Jack Sharp's daddy) paid $1,000 for a grey mare in 1839. I'll bet she wasn't intended to pull his buggy. Horse racing was actually a major diversion for the well heeled in those days which we don't commonly appreciate today.
John
Date: 1/27/99 5:53:09 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu
To: joe@lottfamily.com, sumik@cwix.com
I14425: Richard EDELEN (1671 - BET 1760 AN... LYDIA DORSEY WELCH/WELSH
http://pickle.gsfc.nasa.gov/mdfams/D0014/G0000016.html
In further reply to Lucy BARRON's email regarding question regarding the unusual circumstances of a girl of that 1700's era possibly being given her mother's last name as a middle name. I have not seen it that often in my searching but I have seen it a few times so far. And, I had missed this one in the DORSEY family, of which I had sent you information before, that are possibly related to our Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT and Elizabeth and Frances Lucretia LOTT among others. I have listed some of that again below, briefly, just to refresh everyone's memory. Regarding this information: LYDIA DORSEY WELCH/WELSH is the daughter of LUCRETIA DORSEY, sister of FRANCES DORSEY, daughters of Colonel Nicholas DORSEY and Sarah GRIFFITH. Colonel Nicholas DORSEY is the son of Nicholas DORSEY and FRANCiS HUGHES. (Of course, I don't know if or how FRANCIS HUGHES would be connected yet to our FRANCES LUCRETIA LOTT....but she is in that DORSEY line and, obviously, where they get their FRANCIS/FRANCES family name....or one of the places they get it....and could be somehow connected to ours. The above link and address are from a website that I have sent you information from before regarding the DORSEY family of Maryland and some in Virginia that is related to the CORBIN family that is related to the LIGHTFOOT family that the line of the PHILLIPS (1-3) come from by way of Colonel PHILLIP (1) LIGHTFOOT's marriage to Alice CORBIN, dau: of Henry CORBIN and Alice ELTONHEAD, and there is also a Mary LIGHTFOOT that shows up connected on this family tree at this website. LYDIA DORSEY LIGHTFOOT is one of the granddaughters of Colonel Nicholas DORSEY that I sent information on before that has all of the family names in his family tree that show up in our MARTHA JANE DORSEY LIGHTFOOT and her daughters, ELIZABETH and FRANCES LUCRETIA LOTT's names.....MARTHA, JANE, ELIZABETH, FRANCES, LUCRETIA/LETITIA.....which, also, show up on the LIGHTFOOT list of family names.....with JANE and ELIZABETH both being LIGHTFOOT ancestral grandmothers, ELIZABETH PHILLIPS LIGHTFOOT and JANE JONES LIGHTFOOT. Colonel Nicholas DORSEY's mother's name was FRANCIS HUGHES who married Nicholas DORSEY, Sr.. Perhaps, the MARTHA, LUCRETIA and LETITIA names all go back to other grandmothers as well....still checking.
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 1/29/99
CHILDREN OF NATHAN AND DICEY [WATTS] LOTT
1. CATHERINE LOTT b. ca1801 d. 12 Sept. 1884 md. (1) Joshua Lott; md. (2) Solomon Herrin.
2. WILLIAM LOTT b. 7 Dec. 1804 d. 3 Oct. 1886 md. Mary Bryant on 20 Nov. 1833.
3. ABSALOM N. LOTT b. 28 Feb. 1806 d. 27 Dec. 1887 md. Elizabeth Williamson.
4. JOHN LOTT b. 9 Feb. 1809 d. 9 Sept. 1844 md. 9 May 1828 to Sarah Aultman.
5. SARAH LOTT b. ca1811 md. William Hinton Powell.
6. JUDITH LOTT b. 30 May 1812 d. 17 April 1879 md. 1832 to Willis Watts.
7. ARTHUR LOTT b. 1814 d. 1885 md. ?
8. THOMAS LOTT b. ca1815
9. MARY MARGARET "POLLY" LOTT b. 12 July 1819 d. 24 Sept. 1903 md. on 29 Dec. 1846 to Winston Morris.
10. REUBEN WATTS LOTT b. ca1822 md. in 1844 to Rutha Rayburn.
Sources: Papers of Carroll Watts; Census, Bible, and Family interview research by various people, compiled by Louise Anderson.
Date: 2/4/99 1:55:25 PM Central Standard Time
From: vherrin@medicine.umsmed.edu (Vince Herrin)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hi. Here's another list that has been formulated that is a bit different that what's out there already. Would like to float this one out for comment or criticism, as well--especially helpful would be any proof that this list is incorrect.
(Possible) Children of Absolum and Martha? Lott
1. WILLIAM "BILL" LOTT md. Sarah Wiggins
2. JOHNNY MAJOR LOTT--no further info
3. NATHAN LOTT md. ?Martha Fulsom?
4. ALFRED LOTT--never married
5. ARTHUR LOTT--no further info
6. ELIZABETH LOTT md. Thomas Watts
7. PHILLIP LOTT md. Mary "Polly" Wiggins
8. ABSOLUM LOTT md. Sarah Watts
9. ABRAM LOTT md. Zilphia Wiggins
10. FRANCES LOUCRETIA "PATSY" LOTT md. William Hatten
Thanks. Vince
Date: 2/4/99 7:06:24 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu, MPShaver
To: light123@telepath.com, tafoot@gmi.net
To: joe@lottfamily.com, sumik@cwix.com
Dear John and others,
Just noticed something that I had not noticed before. That Lewis HATTEN, born (abt. 1736, that date is off of the Robert Hatten Descendants chart I was just sent...I haven't checked it with our list of info yet to see if they match) ancestor of William HATTEN that married Frances Lucretia LOTT, the Lewis HATTEN that owned a sloop. I didn't realize that he dealt extensively in trade in the Indies......Captain(Sea Captain) John LIGHTFOOT, (brother of Colonel Phillip LIGHTFOOT,) died in the West Indies. Since LIGHTFOOT was born earlier it wouldn't necessarily mean that they knew each other but it would certainly put their families in much closer proximity with each other than I had realized before. Also my PAYNE and JENNINGS families on my father's side of the family.....(LOTT AND HATTEN AND LIGHTFOOT would be on my mothers) they, too were involved in the shipping trade as were CORBIN on the LIGHTFOOT related side. It seems at that time out of Virginia that would have narrowed the scope of their world considerably other than just looking for them coming together through the general populous. They were all Virginia and all shipping industry putting them in a much smaller community. Also....read something not long ago about lots of the people that wound up in Old Spanish Florida were people that had been given land grants by the Spanish Crown for transporting people there....like the British crown did for Virginia. Was that on your webpages I read that.....can't remember.....at any rater. That's all for now.
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 2/5/99 8:44:17 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu, MPShaver
To: light123@telepath.com, tafoot@gmi.net
To: joe@lottfamily.com, sumik@cwix.com
Hello,
Just forwarding note that I put with the HATTEN in the West Indies information that I sent with you all earlier to send over to the other HATTEN-LOTT-LIGHTFOOT family members that I have been communicating with the most and who have sent me helpful information in the past. I decided it was time to let them know the information that I have put together on Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT inclusive of the admonition that this is greatly supposition aided by very strong 'possibilities/probabilities.'
Sincerely,
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Fwd: HATTEN LOTT LIGHTFOOT related tidbit
Date: 2/5/99 8:37:48 AM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: barbara@7cities.net, griff@pacific.net, BHH0104
To: okardatz@pop500.gsfc.nasa.gov, Sewngo01
To: eschistsoc@cet1.acet.net, Mik MP
To: rlwheat@earthlink.net, jwillis@saber.net
Hi,
I have this to send to you all right now and some other things that I have been gathering that I will start sending you shortly regarding Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT who married Absalom LOTT and what very much looks to be her ancestry. It is
not confirmed and I am still looking for more to verify it but the main LIGHTFOOT researchers that I have been communicating with say that it looks to them that she is from the particular line that I have so far associated her with. This immediate forwarded information I am sending you is regarding HATTEN that I received from other cousins. I'll be back with you later and will be sending info regarding Martha Jane, as well as other things and people, to you not necessarily in the order that I received it nor in chronological order.....just in accordance with which files I come to first. Just continue to keep in mind that much of this is supposition aided by strong probabilities but remain somewhat skeptical as you look at any of this or other information because that is the only way that we track down the truth. That said.....at the same time do not hesistate to feel a little bit 'euphoric' that we might actually have placed Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT LOTT and her descendants with their correct family. At least, I hope so. It appears that the LIGHTFOOT line that she descends from is, indeed, a strong, prominent, community and politically involved family that involved themselves in the service of their country, the protection of their families and support of their neighbors and communities. Theirs is a very rich history that weaves in and out of the lives of other well thought of and prominent families of England and the South United States, specifically, in Virginia. They are a family of which to be proud of belonging. One of the interesting aspects for me has been that the very contentious part of the name of Martha Jane Dorsey LIGHTFOOT......that being the name DORSEY that we find in the middle of her name.....very well may be the part of the puzzle that has brought it all together solidly along with the only other clue I had to go on which was her father's name of Phillip LIGHTFOOT, spelled with two LL's, and his being from a very prominent English family living in Virginia. Each of these items on it's own would not have been so important but all of them put together with the information of the names of Martha Jane's only two daughters, Elizabeth and Frances Lucretia, my ggg grandmother, turned out to be enormously important. It's taken an enormous amount of hours on my part spanning many months now aided by the wonderful assistance of other LIGHTFOOT, CORBIN, ARMISTEAD, DORSEY, LEE, SLAUGHTER, PHILLIPS, SAWYER and other family surname researchers that I have communicated with extensively and, in some instances, just communicated with in passing. They, as have you all, been so very generous in sharing their information with me and I am so delighted to have what they have shared, along with what I have compiled, with you all. I only hope that it is put together in its 'closest to fact' form but I know that there will be things that we continue to find, large or small, along the way that will be inaccurate and in need of change......such is the 'nature of the beast.' I hope you enjoy, in the tiniest way, reading the information that has brought me great joy as I would uncover each 'new find.' Wishing you all the very best.
Sincerely,
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
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Subj: HATTEN LOTT LIGHTFOOT related tidbit
Date: 2/4/99 7:06:24 PM Central Standard Time
From: BandB4951
To: JBarron933, lbarron@fas.harvard.edu, MPShaver
To: light123@telepath.com, tafoot@gmi.net
To: joe@lottfamily.com, sumik@cwix.com
Bellinda Myrick Barnett
Date: 2/5/99
To: BandB4951
In a message dated 2/1/99 9:25:14 PM Central Standard Time, BandB4951 writes:
<< By Roy C OLD SPANISH FLORIDA........scroll down aways through the alphabet listings on the left to 1777 LOTT, JOHN, JR. Bellinda
>>>>>>>>>
This reference is, of course, to the "infamous" Tory land grant given to a John Jr. by King George III in the middle of the revolutionary war. This is the one that ended up in the hands of Wm Vardeman in 1803 and he tried to make it good before the U.S. land commissioners when the Mississippi Terr. was established after the Louisiana Purchase. His claim was rejected, but two years later John Lott (I think son of above John "Jr") regained the property which became Lott's Bluff on the east side of the Pearl River.
O what a web (of John Lotts) we've weaved ....
John Barron
Date: 2/6/99 12:50:02 PM Central Standard Time
From: rsmith@web-access.net (Dr. Robert Smith)
To: LOTT-L@rootsweb.com
Lott cousins (aren't we all?)
I now have an Absolom N. Lott b. Feb 28, 1806, d. Dec. 27, 1887 m. to Elizabeth Williamson. s/o Nathan and Dicey Watts Lott
An Absolom s/o Jessie Lott /Dicy Hatten
An Absolom Lott b. ?, m. ---Williamson. bur. in Wiggins, Stone Co., MS
An Absolom Lott m. to Martha (?) son Absolom m. to Sarah Watts no dates
An Absolom whose father was Arthur Lott m. to Sarah Clapp (?)
Will I have to quit my job to sort out all these Lotts? All I really know is that my gt grandfather was John Lott b. Nov 11, 1837, MS m. to Nellie Bond, b. Dec. 11, 1842. bur Stone Co., Ms. They had a son named ABSOLOM LOTT !
Our Lott List is the greatest at responding and I appreciate it!
Bob
Date: 2/6/99 1:00:04 PM Central Standard Time
From: rsmith@web-access.net (Dr. Robert Smith)
To: LOTT-L@rootsweb.com
Here's another Absolom b. abt 1823 MS , m. Canzada (?), s/o Luke Lott ???? of Marion Co., Ms . This family came to Smith Co., Tx 1850 census
Is my Absolom REALLY the s/o Arthur of Indian fame?
Bob
Date: 2/6/99 7:15:41 PM Central Standard Time
From: Wilson950
To: JBarron933
Hello. I'm researching to Lott name. I have very little info. I have a Zinnia Lott, born late 1800's, d. about 1907, married an Anderson.They either lived in Mississippi, or Alabama. I'm thinking Clarke, or Marango counties. Some rumors say Mobile co.Alab. Zinnia, had at least two sisters, Ola, short for what, i don't know, and Alice. That is all of the info i have at this time...I knows it's not much...Thank you for reading this....Johnie
Date: 2/9/99 11:16:00 AM Central Standard Time
From: RW_Lott@nwcc.cc.ms.us (Russell Lott)
To: LOTT-L@rootsweb.com
Dr. Smith,
Maybe I can clear up some of this for you. I am originally from Stone Co., MS and had the opportunity a few weeks ago to revisit many of the old cemeteries in the county and take pictures of some of the old grave markers.
Absolom N. Lott, b. Feb 28, 1806, d. Dec. 27, 1887, and his wife Elizabeth Williamson, b. June 22, 1809, d. Jan 16, 1887, are buried in the Jerry Bond-Lott Cemetary in Stone Co. MS. (Of course, this was Harrison Co. at the time of their death.) Absolom N. Lott's parents were Nathan Lott, b. abt. 1781 in SC, d. May 28, 1845 in Covington Co. MS, m. Dicey Watts abt. 1800 in Telfair Co., GA. I am directly descended from these two early South Mississippi settlers.
Jesse Lott, b. 1835, d. 1905, m. Dicey Hatten, b. 1843, d. 1927, is one of Absolom N. Lott's sons. He and his Dicey are buried in the Lott-Hickman Cemetary in Stone Co., MS. I don't have any more information about Jesse or a record of his children.
I am especially interested in your reference to your great grandfather, John Lott, b. Nov 11, 1837, MS m. to Nellie Bond, b. Dec. 11, 1842. You say he is buried Stone Co., MS. Do you know in which cemetery or where the grave is located?
I suspect this John Lott is the son of Absolom N. Lott and the brother to Jesse (above) and to my great grandfather, Elisha W. Lott. This John is listed in the 1850 Census as age 14 in Absolom's household (Family #640 in the Harrison Co. census record). Hope this helps.
I would be grateful for any information that you may have regarding the other children of Absolom N. Lott.
-Russell Lott
Date: 2/10/99 3:19:30 PM Central Standard Time
From: bweigler@flash.net (bweigler)
Reply-to: bweigler@flash.net
To: jbarron933@aol.com
Hello-- By the time I found the information that I wanted to send you, I couldn't find where you asked the questions--- but here goes I recall that you asked about Lotts in Texas as early as 1836.
There is a Jessee Lott who is a resident of Atascosa county Texas in the 1867 registered voter list for precinct #1--says that he has been in the state for 35 years and in that precinct for 12 years and that he was born in Mississippi.
In precinct #3 of Atascosa county Texas IN THE YEAR 1880 there is an Arthur Lott age 47- He is single-- a farmer born in Alabama- His father born in Georgia and mother in South Carolina. Living with him are His sister, Emma Kemp, a widow age 38 and her daughter Mary Virginia Kemp (Arthurs niece (she was born in Texas) Also in the household is Arthur's brother--James W Lott age 41 and also The Lott brother's mother Therza Lott ( a widow) age 71 who was born in South Carolina as were both of her parents.
The reason for my interest is that my greatgrandfather who was from Mississippi and lived in Atascosa county Texas was named James Lott Miller and I have been trying to figure out is there is a relationship between the Lott family of Miss and the Millers who also had South Carolina and Mississippi roots.
Bertha Weigler
Date: 2/15/99
To: bweigler@flash.net
Bertha, thanks for your response. I will add you to our list of Lott researchers. You can check with my web page for some more Lott family information by clicking on the following: John Barron's Home Page
The people that you mentioned are from the John Lott family from early Texas. Jesse was a son of John. John Lott married Celia Neal, widow of Andrew Miller, in Washington Co., Rep. of Texas, in 1839. I suspect that your James Lott Miller is a descendant of one of her children. The book "Blood on the Bluebonnets" by Bill Lehmann gives some good info on the Miller family in early Texas.
The Thirza that you refer to is Thirza Easterling. She married a Lott in Marion Co., MS, in 1820s, but I can't recall which one right now. They are all related. Would like to find her in Alabama before they came to Texas, however. I'll try to locate more info on them and get back to you.
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 2/17/99 8:51:19 PM Central Standard Time
From: STCASEY01@worldnet.att.net (Sandra T. Casey)
To: jbarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
John, I thought this might be of interest. Could you please forward to the rest of circle?
In David King Gleason's book, "Antebellum Homes of Georgia," which consists of photographs and text by him and a foreword by Joseph B. Mahan, there is a brief history of land development as the state made land available to citizens and recent immigrants that it was dispossessing the resident Indian tribes of (Cherokee, Creek and Seminole) of. Between 1801 and 1832 Georgia agreed to relinquish to the United States government its own disputed claim to lands that would become parts of Alabama and Mississippi. In return, the promise was made to remove all Indians from the remainder of the state's territory as soon as was practicable.
This land (thirteen large areas) had been considered a nonproductive, unprotected section of the state.
In 1803 the legislature passed a new law establishing a system of land grants, which we know as the Georgia lottery. These lots were 202.5 acres until 1832, when land from the Cherokee Nation was divided into 160-acre lots, except where gold was discovered, and these became 40-acre lots....Many of the winners established residence on the land they got....Most of the lucky winners offered them for sale at whatever price they would bring."
"The availability of land coincided with the expanding cotton industry and nurtured the period of easy abundance...(shown in this book as plantations). That period covered only a brief few decades." This was due not only to the Civil War's effect but also that the soil was becoming exhausted by continually growing cotton . ...The main area of competition for producing cotton came from the Gulf states, "into which settlers carrying the cotton culture moved; later, it was Arkansas and Texas, which took the lead toward the end of the period."
The book also shows pictures particularly on the western side of the state of plantations belonging to Indians and "mixed blood" people. The first is that of Cherokee chieftain James Vann's - Chief Vann House, 1805. His father, Clement, was a Scottish trader who married a Cherokee woman. James Vann was killed by a shot in ambush in 1809, and left the house to his son, Joseph Van. The Cherokees, however, ruled that James' wife, Peggy be given the house and the property divided among Joseph and his (sic) other children. He was dispossessed by the Georgia Guard in 1834, and moved to Oklahoma. He not only built a similar house there, but was paid by the state of Georgia in the 1840 for his Georgia property.
Cherokee Indian leader Major Ridge, received his commission from Andrew Jackson, and first built in 1794 a log cabin as a trading post and he operated a ferry on the banks of the Oostanaula River, and then the regulary enlarged the house became a 52" by 28' two-story frame structure called the "Chieftains." He and his son, John were signers of the Treaty of New Echota, whiched exchanged the Indian's Georgia land for acreage in Oklahoma. Survivors of the Trail of Tears executed the two for the signing of the treaty.
Chief John Martin, a wealthy "mixed blood" and treasurer of the Cherokee Nation built his"Coosawatee Plantation " in the early 1800's, a 15,000-acre property in the valley of the Coosawatee River. He owned 80 slaves. In 1834, when the Cherokees were forced to move to Oklahoma, John Martin became chief justice of the Supreme Court of Indian Territory and the Coosawatee Plantation was then acquired by Col. Farish Carter and called "Carter's Quarters." It was located in Baldwin County, near Milledgeville, GA. and this was a case where Col. Carter spent $40,000 to reassemble the original 15,000-acre complex by buying 160-acre lottery plots from their new owners.
That's it, folks!
Date: 2/17/99
To: rsmith@web-access.net
Bob, I have gone into these grants a good deal in the paper entitled "The Southern Colonial Lott Family" on my web page. Two John Lotts (a Sr. and a Jr.) were in what is now Mississippi during the Rev. war and received royal land grants from the English king. There is no doubt in my mind that they are our Johns with the elder was the one born before 1700 and the younger was the John born about 1720. I'm also convinced that they were Tories who supported England during the Rev. war and had fled Georgia at the start of the war. We had a good debate on these points when I first started the Lott Circle which you can read in the archived Lott messages also on the web page. You can access it by clicking on the following: John Barron's Home Page
John Barron
Date: 2/23/99
To: paulkj@perry.gulfnet.com
Jessie, I am glad to see that you are on-line as I have had numerous people refer to your publication on the Lotts. I moderate an on-line research group called the Lott Circle who study the southern Lott family. I would like to include you in the group with your permission. We store our results from time to time on my web page which can be accessed by clicking on the following: John Barron's Home Page
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 2/25/99
To: paulkj@perry.gulfnet.com
In a message dated 2/25/99 5:47:40 AM Central Standard Time, paulkj@perry.gulfnet.com writes:
<< Suits me as long as there is no charge. Maybe I can help some of the people in AL, MS & LA who are related to Trent LOTT. The AL, MS, & LA LOTTS are descended from the patraich of my book "LOTT FAMILIES OF WIREGRASS GA." My home phone 850-584-4280, Box 275, Salem, FL 32356. By the way, I still have 12 books still available.
Jessie Paulk, Salem, FL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey, no charge; you're on board. Were you able to access the web site?
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 2/26/99 5:21:16 PM Central Standard Time
From: rsmith@web-access.net (Dr. Robert Smith)
To: JBarron933@aol.com, paulkj@perry.gulfnet.com
Lott cousins,
There was some mix-up on where John C. Lott and spouse Nellie Bond Lott were buried. I finally found some old negatives of their tombstones in the Smith-Lott Cemetery in Stone Co., MS. The cemetery is very small and theirs were the only two old markers in it. There were also the markers for his son, John Russel and his wife, Susan Davis. Just in case someone has John C. as a ancestor.
Bob
Date: 2/28/99 1:25:50 AM Central Standard Time
From: joe@lottfamily.com (Joseph Lott)
Reply-to: joe@lottfamily.com (joe@lottfamily.com)
To: JBarron933@aol.com ('JBarron933@aol.com')
I've enjoyed using Jessie's book and recommend it for those interested in the Wiregrass GA Lotts. It's focus is on the descendants of Mark Lott and Delilah Jones, although there is some family background on Mark's father (John Lott b. abt 1742) and grandfather (John Lott b. abt 1720).
By the way, Trent Lott comes from the SC Lotts that settled in Carroll Co, MS. If anyone knows the connection between those Lotts and the John Lott clan out of North Carolina, please let me know. I've been searching for that connection for years.
Regards, JL
Date: 3/3/99 12:16:52 PM Central Standard Time
From: Brandi Ted
To: JBarron933
Greetings. I understand you're part of a large group of Southern Lotts, and I just wanted to check in and submit my (Northern) line.
(My line of descent is as follows:)
1. Englebert LOTT & Sarah -
2. Peter LOTT & Gertrude LAMBERT
3. Hendrick LOTT & Catrina DE WITT
4. Johannes LOTT & Antje RAPALJE
5. Dortie/Dorothy LOTT & Johannes VAN LIEW
6. Frederick VAN LIEW & Anne RAPALJE/RAPPLEYEA
7. John R. VAN LIEW & "Susan (Budd) JAQUES"
8. Augustus Taylor VAN LIEW & Marie Louise DURELL
9. Katharine G. VAN LIEW & Frederick Huntting HOWELL
10. James Rapelje (Klots?) HOWELL & Bonnie Llewellyn/Louella SUMMITT
11. Juliette Katharine HOWELL & Friedrich Heinrich BRANDI
12. Frederic Rapelje Huntting BRANDI & Carol WEBER
13. Theodore Frederic BRANDI & Nicola Jane SMALL
I have loads of information based on two books about the Lott Family: A.V. Phillips' "Lott Family In America", 1942, and Rhea Lott Vance's "Descendants of Cornelius Peter Lott", 1973, which I'd be happy to share. You may already have these.
Has the southern line managed to connect at all to the northern branch's progenitor? I'll hang on to your screen name and get back in touch if I find anything worthwhile in the future.
Fraternally, Ted
Date: 3/5/99
To: Brandi Ted
In a message dated 3/3/99 12:16:52 PM Central Standard Time, Brandi Ted writes:
<< Has the southern line managed to connect at all to the northern branch's progenitor? I'll hang on to your screen name and get back in touch if I find anything worthwhile in the future.
>>
Thanks, Ted. All the southern Lotts that I have traced were of English origin and came to the Virginia tidewater country as early as 1650. I don't think they are related to early Lotts from New Jersey and New York whom I understand are Dutch.
I routed your message to the mailing group that I moderate just the same. Maybe some will be able to follow up with a connection. You can take a look at some of our work on my web page at the following: John Barron's Home Page
John Barron, Austin, TX
Date: 3/5/99
To: USER MACKS
CC: Lott Circle
In a message dated 3/4/99 1:34:53 PM Central Standard Time, USER MACKS writes:
John: A number of years ago (while working in newspaper) I interviewed Trent Lott. At the end of our meeting I mentioned that I was a descendant of the Marion County Lotts. Trent told me his ancestor was one of the brothers that came to the Marion County Area, then the family moved to Texas, then back to the Mississippi Gulf Coast. I don't remember which brother he said he descends from, but he did seem to be interested in his ancestry. Hey, wonder if he want to join our circle??!!!
Donna
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Very interesting, especially the Texas connection. Some of the early Texas Lotts who came from Marion Co. did disappear around 1850 and I have never been able to track them down. Perhaps his are part of this group.
Think I should send him an invite?
John
Date: 3/6/99 4:58:21 PM Central Standard Time
From: bfreeman@usit.net (Beverly Freeman)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John,
I think that it would be great if Trent Lott joined our circle.
Beverly
Date: 3/6/99 9:10:14 AM Central Standard Time
From: vherrin@medicine.umsmed.edu (Vince Herrin)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
I think Trent Lott is originally from Grenada, in north-central MS. (So he might be descended from the Carroll County Lott family). I don't know that for sure, but I don't think he was born on the coast.
Vince
Date: 3/7/99 12:00:09 PM Central Standard Time
From: bellmer@narrows.com (Merle Bellmer)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Hello John,
There were some of Trent's relatives who went to TX and indeed still live there. Trent is a 6th generation descendant of Aaron Lott, Sr. of Carroll Co. MS. As you probably know well, Aaron Lott, Sr.'s line went from Fairfield Co. SC to Pickens Co. AL, briefly, and then on to Carroll Co. MS, by about 1835. (Aaron Lott appears on a tax list for that county in 1835, and since Aaron, Jr. married in 1828, it could have been either Aaron, but by the 1840 census, both are on the census there.)
Aaron Sr.'s sons were: John, William, Aaron, Jr., Vail Jackson, Toliver and Andrew. Trent Lott is a descendant of Aaron Sr. through his son Andrew. Andrew had a son named John G., who had a son named Aaron, and the latter is Trent Lott's grandfather.
Trent Lott's father, and all his grandfathers and great grandfathers back to Aaron, Sr. are buried in Carroll Co. MS. I have the cemetery book for that county and can verify some by the book, and some by my own visit to Carroll Co. As far as I can tell, Trent was born in Grenada Co. MS, adjacent to Carroll Co. That isn't the MS Gulf. Maybe he lived in Marion Co. MS, I don't know, but his ancestors didn't come from there.
The lineage came from a book written about the Carroll Co. MS Lotts and the author is a cousin, second, I think, to Trent Lott. Since I bought a copy of this book, I have added my own research, but I do not actively research Trent Lotts line.
I suspect that Trent Lott may not have realized his lineage when he talked to the reporter, or the questions were asked in such a way as to get a yes or no answer that was misconstrued, or perhaps he was in a hurry and just gave careless answers to get on his way.
That's my 2 cents worth.
Have a good day.
Dot
Date: 3/8/99
To: bellmer@narrows.com
In a message dated 3/7/99 12:00:09 PM Central Standard Time, bellmer@narrows.com writes:
<< It amazes me how interested people get about someone of the surname of interest if they are newsworthy or well known. >>
Thanks, Dot, for the info on Trent Lott. I think I'm more interested in the background of Ronnie Lott (the black pro football player).
Several have suggested the Trent was from the Carroll Co. group and I'm sure you're right.
John
Date: 3/8/99 11:00:18 AM Central Standard Time
From: grg@iname.com (Gerald R GALLAGHER)
Reply-to: grg@iname.com
To: JBarron933@aol.com (John Barron)
Dear John;
In reviewing Arthur Lott's probate file in Smith County, I find several items that should interest you with regard to Abram/Abraham Lott.
An inventory of assets of the estate taken March 27, 1854, includes a note payable to Abram Lott from William Miles dated Oct 5, 1852.
In accounting for payments made from the estate to the probate court on Dec 5, 1854, two payments are made to Dr. McKorkle. The first payment is for medical services to Abraham Lott in the amount of $15. The second payment is to pay off the assumption of Abraham Lott's outstanding account of $54.30. I seems that Arthur paid for Abraham's medical needs and then assumed his assets and debts after Abraham died. This is evidence that Abraham Lott died between the dates of Oct 5, 1852 and Jan 22, 1854.
Also of interest is the fact that Dr. James H. McCorkle is one of the witnesses to Arthur Lott's will made on the date of his death Jan 22, 1854. The will is written in the hand of the other witness, John J. Lott. Arthur Lott's signature is very weak and it is clear he did not write the will himself. Dr. James H. McCorkle and John J. Lott later proved the will to the probate court.
With regard to the grand duaghter, Nancy Ann Elizabeth Lott, mentioned in the will, Elizabeth Lott, Arthur's widow, posted bond and became the guardian of this child of Abraham Lott and Nancy Hope Lott.
However, with regard to the grandson, Arthur Lott, also mentioned in the will, on Oct 30, 1856, a court order was entered to void the guardianship of Arthur Lott because Elisha Everett Lott had not posted bond and was therefore not qualified as a guardian under the law. No mention is made as to who this child's parents were or who later became his guardian.
There is no mention of Absolum Lott in any record I read in Arthur Lott's probate file. On Oct 24, 1854, Absolum Lott and his wife Conzada sold land in Smith County (deed book F, page 612). So Absolum Lott was alive at least 10 months after the death of Arthur Lott. If he were Arthur Lott's son, some mention of his name should have been in the court records between Jan and Oct of 1854.
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There is another Arthur Lott probate file in Smith County. File #697 is the probate file of Arthur Lott, son of Solomon J. Lott. He made his will on July 13, 1877 and died on May 11, 1880. Solomon J. Lott was the executor of his son's estate. Arthur left his estate to his father, Solomon. In the event that Solomon did not survive his son, Arthur, the estate would have gone to Arthur's brother John. The bulk of this estate was land that was inherited from his mother, Martha. On May 8, 1875, John and M. A. Lott, C. L. and Bettie Stripling, and W. H. and Annie Thorn, sold their interest in land from the estate of Martha Lott (their mother and wife of Solomon) to their brother, Arthur.
Gerald Gallagher
Date: 3/9/99
To: grg@iname.com
Thanks, Gerald, what you sent convinces me even more that Abram was a son and Absalom was not.
Back in 1980, my dad, daughter Lucy, and I went over to Tyler and pulled Arthur Lott's probate. This was to collect evidence for Lucy's membership application in DRT. I didn't copy everything in the packet as you might understand after seeing it, but did get a lot of good info. I didn't get a lot of what you sent since it didn't do much toward helping her cause.
When we got home, Daddy wanted to take the inventory info about old Arthur's still and whiskey on hand and show his brother, but I hadn't copied that either. I always felt bad about that since he had no real interest in genealogy.
John
Date: 3/10/99
To: grg@iname.com
In a message dated 3/10/99 10:43:39 AM Central Standard Time, grg@iname.com writes:
<< I was wondering if Elisha Everett Lott's probate file #104 was in the county clerk's office when you were there in 1980. It is not there now and was not there 1996 when, as I understand it, Andrew Leath microfilmed the old probate files. >>
Hi Gerald, I don't believe that his file was there then. At least, I have no record of seeing it. We did find Elbert Watts' file and the infamous "Affidavit of John A. Lott" in it. I didn't know Andy microfilmed the records. He did write a book of abstracts of them which I have a copy. E.E. Lott's files is abstracted in it.
John
Date: 3/10/99 10:43:39 AM Central Standard Time
From: grg@iname.com (Gerald R GALLAGHER)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
Dear John;
I was wondering if Elisha Everett Lott's probate file #104 was in the county clerk's office when you were there in 1980. It is not there now and was not there 1996 when, as I understand it, Andrew Leath microfilmed the old probate files. I have no idea how long it has been missing, but if you took any notes on it, I would be interested.
I did not see the inventory in Arthur Lott's file that mentioned the still and whiskey. It may have been on oversight on my part since I was concentrating on names and you know how hard some of the hand writing is to read. On the other hand, someone may have removed that page from the file.
Gerald Gallagher
Date: 3/14/99
To: tvpal@earthlink.net
CC: Lott Circle, Barron Circle
Theron, my Lott family was from Marion Co., MS, although some of the kin were in the adjoining county of Covington. The cemetery records were sent to me for display and are the only records that I have from there. I don't think there are marriage records surviving from before the Civil War for Covington Co.
I will route your message to both Barron and Lott mailing lists that I moderate and hopefully someone can help.
The early Lott families in Texas came to Washington Co. about 1834. They were from Marion Co., but had been in the Florida Territory for a few years. One brother, Robert A. Lott, stayed in Washington Co. and ended up owning the old hotel there. The other two, John and Arthur, went to Limestone/Freestone Co. area about 1840. Both were dead by 1850. Arthur's wife, Harriett Whitton, remarried Pleney Black and is shown with her Lott children in his household in Limestone Co. 1850 with the kids named as Black. In 1860 they are shown in McLennan Co. and kids are shown as Lot.
One of the Lott girls, Sarah (I think), married Thomas Hudson Barron's son Milam about 1861. I don't know what happened to her after he died in the war.
John
Date: 3/14/99 12:39:39 PM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John I think I have info. on this Reid or reed as it was written I need
to dig out those files will relay them as soon as I can Joe Davis
Date: 3/14/99 4:36:50 PM Central Standard Time
From: stoii@juno.com (shirley l lindeen)
To: JBarron933@aol.com
John here is what I have on the Reid or reed it seems to be spelled the two ways I will write it as it is written, hope this helps
Reid William -born 1780 on 1820 cenus
John Reed born -1795 married 1816 Tn. to Dicey T. Duke Tn. Jesse B. Reid born 1831 Ar. marriedJulia Ann Holcomb born 1847
1-William