Joseph Ship, father of Elijah, father of Nancy who married Daniel Groves
Daniel Groves
and Nancy Ship married in Clark county
Kentucky on 21 September, 1815. Elijah Ship, presumably her father, signed the
marriage bond
2 on the 18th as he did for
Nancy's sister a year later.
1792 Clark County Kentucky tax list shows no Groves or Shipp families
1795 1796 1797 1799 Clark County Tax returns proving Joseph Jr arrived in late 1795 or early 1796 and that Elijah arrived between the 1797 and 1799 returns source
Amherst county Virginia deeds mentioning Elijah Ship, his father Joseph, and his mother Dorothea/Dolly - 1793 1796 1796 1796 1796 1801 1801 TOC proves these are from Amherst County - from The Deeds of Amherst County, Virginia, 1761-1807 and Albemarle County (page 327 specifically) - Bailey Fulton Davis, Southern Historical Press, 1979 index - from 29 Dec 2010 LVA trip. This work is not in picture as it was in Albemarle county collection of LVA. Searched for William Price also (index) but cannot prove this was Rebecca Price's husband. Another (also unproven) William Price record from this (intro) There are no Shipp men in 1790 Amherst County Va. tax lists, but Joseph Ship in there in 1799 list below. Also, a William Price appears in the 1790 and 1799 Fauquier County Va personal tax lists (A and B, respectively). - from http://www.binnsgenealogy.com/VirginiaTaxListCensuses/Fauquier/
Amherst County Virginia is 6 counties to the southwest from Prince William, 5 from Fauquier, and it would appear that Elijah and Joseph and his family relocated there prior to resettling in Kentucky and Tennessee, respectively.
Clark Co Marriages 1793-1850, page 101 (probably indexed by groom) - Groves, Daniel and Nancy Ship; surety Elijah Ship 1815 Sept 18
Two additional children of Elijah means the second 1830 image is likely ours!
Elijah and Joseph Ship (probably brothers) were in Clark county in 1800 tax lists source. Elijah had 4 males under 10, and himself 26-45, 1 female under 10, 2 females 10-16, and his wife, also between 26 and 45 years old in Clark in the 1810 census. Joseph had 2, 1, 1, 1 (males) and 1, 1, 2, 1 (females) in Clark co in 1810 (source). In 1820, there was an Elijah, a Fielding (his is the eighth entry down and has an eight in it, here is a view of just the males in the large family), and a James Ship, on pp 74, 73, and 64 (respectively) of Clark county Ky. In 1830, no Elijah. However, there were actually 2 entries for what could very well be the same Elijah Ship in Montgomery county Indiana census index for 1830. This Elijah might or might not be ours. First image Second image. In the 1840 census & after, every trace of these Ship ancestors is gone. June 2007 - Is this Elijah and Joseph's father's will? His age indicates he was born before 1765, correct for our Elijah's father who would have been born around 1745. A young Lewis Ship appears in Clark county Ky in the 1830 federal census. This is probably the son of either Elijah or Joseph based on information that implies brother Lewis remained in Tennessee and was born @ 1797.
Full 1820 census page with Daniel Groves, Elijah Ship, and Fielding Ship families.
Clark Co Deeds
1819 Elijah Ship and wife Rebecca from Samuel Stephenson Book 17 Page 83
[Stephenson and James Wood appear in 1820 census]
1828 Elijah Ship and wife to Benj Dunaway Book 23 pg 232
1828 Elijah Ship to James Wood Book 23 page 280
Elijah's wife is mentioned in a real estate deed in Clark Co KY in 1819
Original of Joseph Shipp's May 1821 will from Rutherford County historian Kelsey Jensen. Thanks Kelsey!
The will statements and aging fits the pattern of brothers Joseph and Elijah having already made their families and fortunes, and Lewis just starting out. 1810 and 1820 Rutherford county Tn census images. Note, Lewis at the top of the 1820 page age 18 to 26 (23 if the other information is correct). Lewis in the 1830 Rutherford County TN federal census, (note James Yearwood, the neighbor similar to the one of the 1820 Lewis Shipp). Joseph is listed as 26 - 45 years old, but this is probably an error, he should be over 45 years old, based on the 1810 census. Also note John Yearwood/"Earwood" and Daniel Nicholas not far (4 & 6) below Joseph's entry. Additionally, we know that a Joseph Ship was in Rutherford as early as 1803 and is listed in other Rutherford County records.
Although I have no records connecting our Elijah to the
son of Joseph in Rutherford, the names of the two brothers in Clark County
(and their similarity to Joseph's sons), and the ages of the various Shipps seem
to be strong evidence for a move north to Clark County Kentucky from
Rutherford County Tennessee in the late 1700s for both Elijah and Joseph Jr.
There appears a young Lewis Shipp in 1830, probably the son of Elijah or Joseph,
named after his brother in Tennessee. There are two Lewis Ships in the 1850
census, one in Missouri and
one in Tennessee, the first one is probably Elijah's
son or nephew, the other, his younger brother. Cover of 1810 census book.
It seems the data from Sandra's Elijah Shipp page is correct, and he did marry Rebecca Price in 1792 source (MR=minister) So it would seem that on the 2nd of January, 1792 Elijah Shipp and Rebecca Price applied for a marriage bond, she, the daughter of William and Presley Price. Eight days later, they were married by the same minister that married Joseph Shipp Jr. and had obvious relations with Joseph Shipp Sr. as well. The FHS website on 23 June 2007 has two dates, Jan and June 1792 for the marriage, but both agree that it was in Fauquier County, though no name for his wife is mentioned in either record. So, back in Virginia, then, there may be more evidence for the connection between Elijah and Joseph Ship:
1) 1782 tax return for Joseph Ships 1 poll, no slaves in Fauquier county Va. - from pg 113 of Fothergill, Augusta B. and John Mark Naugle. Virginia Tax Payers 1782–1787 Other Than those Published by the United States Census Bureau. n.p., n.p., 1940. These lists were taken from county personal property tax lists. There are 2 other Ship(s) but it is unclear if they are related. 1783 map of Fauquier County - it is likely that the Shipps lived in or near district 1 here due to the proximity to both Hezekiah Turner and Benjamin Shackelford in the 1787 census returns (tax list B), administrators for sections 1 & 5 respectively of the 1783 list. Original source http://www.geocities.com/jd_ball2001/FQC_Tax_Dist.html on 04 July 07. The census taker had visited Turner 2 days before Joseph Shipp in 1787. One would imagine that based on the 1783 and 1787 data, our Shipp families lived on the Northern portion of the border of tax list "B" and "C" in 1787.
Joseph Shipp Sr was listed in 1781 John Edmonds & John Ashby's Northeast Fauquier County, Virginia tax lists with 1 tithable. Source: Alcock, Fauquier Families vol. 2 page 78 He appeared in 1782, 84-88 Edward Humston, and 1793 Edward Humston Northwest Fauquier county Virginia tax lists (This is the last tax list he or Joseph Jr are included in). Source: Alcock, Fauquier Families 1759-1799 page 316.
Joseph Shipp Sr was listed in 1783 Hezekiah Turner's Northeast Fauquier County, Virginia tax lists with 1 white male over 21, 4 head of cattle, and 9 horses. Source: Alcock, Fauquier Families vol. 2 page 95
In both of the above tax returns, other Fauquier County Shipp families live extremely close by (i.e. Richard W Shipp, John Ship). Due to proximity, and age, it is very possible (though still unproven) that Richard W's father John was brother of Joseph Sr's father, making Richard W. and Joseph Sr. first cousins. The Shipp Manuscript at the NEHGS needs to be copied for comparison. More Data on John Shipp descendants in Alcock, Fauquier Families 1759-1799 pages 100 & 316
2) Additionally, Joseph Ships Sr. appears on page 286 of Fauquier Co. Va. 1787 Personal Property Tax list "B" with 0 0 0 6 9. explanation of columns of 1787 tax list A Joseph Ships Jr. is next door with 1 0 0 1 2 and is noted to be between 16 - 21 (born 1766 - 1771). This was taken on 15 March, 1787. There is a John Ships also, with a John Evins (16 - 21) on tax list "C" 1 0 0 1 4 on page 299. His visit was on April 26th, indicating a bit of space between the other Ships in Fauquier County. Again, it is unknown what relationship, if any, might be represented. Both of these observations fit existing data that Joseph was a bit older than Elijah (a few years older, it would appear, to be in the 1787 lists). There are no Samuel or Mary Groves, just a William Graves a few days away - census taker-time. Joseph Sr. would have been in his 70s at his death (possibly 76 years old with the dates we've "used" above). Did he serve in the Revolutionary War?
1785 tax list of Hezekiah Turner with Joseph Ships source
On March 5th, 1787, a probable Joseph Ships Jr witnessed the marriage of friends (and possible extended kin) Joseph McCoy and Mary Williams. Source: Alcock, Fauquier Families 1759-1799 page 239
In 1791 Joseph Ships Sr. was responsible for the tax of John Brown in tax list "B". Source: Alcock, Fauquier Families 1759-1799 page 46.
In a deed dated in 1787 a Manor of Leeds lease of Joseph Slaughter states duration is for "lives of Elijah Shipp and sons Joseph and Samuel Slaughter." Source: Alcock, Fauquier Families 1759-1799 page 322 B source
3) Alcock, Fauquier Families 1759-1799 page 316 states that Elijah was in 1791 & 1792 tax lists in H (Edward Humston's lists) as was Joseph sr. Location speculation above still seems valid. This seems to add to the already conclusive evidence for the lineage described.
From
Fauquier County, Virginia, Marriage Bonds 1759-1854 and Marriage Returns 1785-1848, p. 121: 14 February 1785, Mary Ships to William
Lawrence, bondsman Joseph Ships. Joseph is assumed to be Mary's father.
N. Schreiner-Yantis and F.S. Love 1987, The 1787 Census of Virginia, p. 286. Joseph Ships Sr., Fauquier County Tax List "B", with 0 males
between ages of 16 and 21, 6 horses, and 9 cattle. No black slaves.
1790 Fauquier County, Virginia, Personal Property Tax List B Joseph Ships Senior. 1 tithable, 4 horses and mares. Tax 8 shillings.
Sandi Napravnik, Ships/Shipps Family of Licking County, Ohio, manuscript at Licking County Chapter, Ohio Genealogical Society.
Joseph and John Ships came to Fauquier County shortly after the Revolutionary War, before which both had been in Horsham Township,
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. A Joseph Ships was in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, in 1738.
Ruth and Sam Sparacio 1998, Fauquier County, Virginia, Minute Book 1789-1790, p. 22. Court of 22 June 1789. Joseph Shipps Sr.
appointed surveyor of the road in the "room" of John Catlett.
From
N. Schreiner-Yantis and F.S. Love 1987, The 1787 Census of Virginia, p. 286. Joseph Ships Jr., Fauquier County Tax List "B", with 1 male
between ages of 16 and 21, 1 horse, and 2 cattle. No black slaves.
J.E.S. King 1980, Abstracts of Wills, Administrations, and Marriages of Fauquier County, Virginia, 1759-1800, p. 59. Joseph Shipp married
Letty Etcheson, 2 October 1785.
20 March 1790 Fauquier County, Virginia, Personal Property Tax List B Joseph Ships Junior. 1 tithable, 3 horses and mares. Tax 6
shillings.
IGI. Joseph Shipps married 8 August 1792 in Fauquier, Virginia.
From Ancestry.com Fauquier County Virginia Message board (but quoted elsewhere, as well) Posted: 21 Mar 2003 4:47PM GMT
According to Fauquier County
marriages, Mary married William Lawrence, his last name was not Buckley.
There is a deed of Fauquier Co:
2 Nov. 1784 Bill of Sale
Joseph Doniphan ... for £300 ... to John Keith ... Ann, a negro woman,
Ann a negro child 6 yrs. old, Charity, a negro woman about 16 yrs. old.
Signed: Joseph Doniphan
Witness: Joseph (his O mark) Shipps, Mary Ships, Joseph Ships, Jr.
Recorded 22 Nov. 1784. Ack. by: Doniphan
[Note: Doniphan appears 4 days from Joseph Shipp
in 1787 tax list, Keith 7 days "away"]
A
source
From Ancestry.com Fauquier County Virginia Message board (Dee Ann Buck) Posted: 6 Feb 2003 11:22PM GMT
I have the first The Shipp Family Genealogy by Ralph D. Shipp page 294, has information about Joseph Shipp Jr.
I have that Joseph Shipp Sr. had two children: Joseph Shipp Jr. who married first to Letty Atchinson in Fauquier Co. VA and second to Dorothy Hill in Fauquier Co. VA. Joseph Jr. died in Clark Co. KY will proved 24 Jan 1820.
The above Ralph D. Shipp did update (info) his first book (info), but I do not know if his second Shipp book has more information about Joseph SR., Joseph JR. & Mary.
The bad news, as far as I know, Joseph Shipp Sr. born c1747 has not been connected to the known Shipp family members descendants of Joshua Shipp of early VA.
The Shipp family manuscript at the Boston NEHGS was consulted in late June 2007, and contained slight references to some Fauquier County Shipp connections, but there is no information in that work to help establish linkage between the (at least two) disparate Shipp branches at the time.
From Ancestry.com's copy of Will Records of Clark County, Kentucky Volume II 28 August 1809-April 1826 - Will Records of Clark County, Kentucky Book D
OS Page:
585 Name: Joseph Ship
My wife My daughter, Rebeckah's children My son, John My daughter, Sophia
McClain My daughter, Lilly Stevens My daughter, Chloe Quisenberry My son,
Fielding My daughter, Patsey My sons, Benjamin and Lewis To Citty Mehalay My
wife, and son in law, James Quisenberry, Exe. Witnesses: Harvey Rogers, Fielding
Shipp, Patsy Shipp, and Ruth Henry Written: 21 December 1819
Note son Lewis, who is probably the Lewis who appears in the 1830 Clark County Ky census. The Fielding Shipp listed above is probably the Fielding who lives near Daniel Groves in the 1820 census.
The entries for Joseph and Elijah Shipp' marriage point out the Baptist minister John Monroe was the minister. Source. Further, William and Presley Price are Rebecca's parents, and Joseph is listed as son of Joseph. This record Source provides more connection between Joseph Shipp senior and minister John Monroe.
1799 Amherst county Va. Tax list with Joseph Ship (obviously Sr since his sons were in Kentucky at this time).
Note there was only 1 Ships in the 1800 tax list (John Ships) and 1 Ship name in the 1810 Fauquier County Federal Census lists, William Shipe, about 30 with a wife and two young children, indicating that some Ships must have died or moved away in the 13 years since 1787.
Was Joseph Jr. in the war of 1812? Source
1813 (page before for date) and 1815 record of Lewis Shipp in Rutherford County Tennessee Source
Fielding and Benjamin Shipp in 1830 Howard County Missouri federal census returns
Fielding and Benjamin Shipp death dates and burial location in Howard County Missouri
** In 1997, a lady
named Sandra Burbridge contacted me and stated that she thought her
John E Groves and my Daniel were brothers,
both sons of a Samuel Groves. This Samuel groves was a revolutionary War
Veteran, I believe. I believe (but could be wrong) she said her John married a
Priscilla Ship, and she looked up something she had gotten from Clark county
Kentucky and came up with the fact that an Elijah Ship had been the bondsman
for Nancy Ship to wed my Daniel Groves in Clark county Ky on 18 Sept, 1815. She
said that she had always assumed that they were brothers who married sisters. I
did not have Samuel Groves' death cert, nor did she. I lost contact with her,
only to regain it early in December 1999! The wedding date was also on a FTM
CD, but cannot find which one without that old email.
Sandra's John E. Groves study page - excellent documentation for John's family.
1704 Virginia Quit Rent Roll Ship entries - source unknown if related
