THE BURIAL OF PAUPERS IN LIVERPOOL |
The fortnightly meeting of the Liverpool
Workhouse Committee was held yesterday at the workhouse, Brownlow-hill,
Mr Hodkinson presiding. There were also present Miss Thorburn, Mrs
McElroy, Alderman Rudkin, Messrs King, O'Hara, Burke, Hughes, O'Shea,
Peet, Rathbone, Laurence, Woodcock, Sparling, Coffey, Geating, Moss,
Kelly, O'Niel, Brady, Bolger, Gillmoore and T Salter. The routine
business having been transacted. |
Mr Moss said he had a few remarks to make.
He visited the Anfield Cemetery on Monday last, when the pauper funerals
take place, and was greatly surprised to find that the Catholic paupers
were buried in a stone quarry, and on making further inquiries he found
that the Protestant paupers were buried at Rice-lane, Walton, in soil
graves. He should like to know why such a distinction should be made
between one class of paupers and another. It was neither right nor fair.
He saw a large tract of land where the Catholic community buried their
dead, where the funerals took place in soil graves, and they had not to
resort to the stone quarry. One of the Catholic members of the Select
Vestry was, he believed, one of the members of the Anfield Burial Board,
but he could not have very much sympathy for his poor co-religionists,
or he would not allow such a state of things to go on. Catholic paupers
should be interred in soil graves, instead of stone quarries - similar
to what was done with regard to Protestant paupers. One of his
colleagues was a witness to what he had described, and he agreed with
him that it was very inhuman that a class should be subjected to such
unnecessary degradation. He hoped they would see that some better
arrangement was made in the future. He must say that he was completely
upset when he went round Anfield Cemetery. Why not let the Catholic
paupers be buried in the large tract of land used by the Catholic body,
instead of the quarry? HE went down to the quarry and found that it was
from 90 to 100 feet below the ground level, and he considered that it
was a very great shame for such a thing to occur. |
The Chairman: I don't think it is a matter
that concerns this board. - Mr Moss: I beg your pardon; I think it is. -
The Chairman: Just a moment; take your seat. After we have taken the
dead away, and taken them respectably, our duties end there. - Mr Moss:
It is not a proper burial place, this stone quarry. - The Chairman: As
to where they are buried is outside this committee. - Mr Moss: said he
maintained that the Catholic paupers should be buried in soil graves
like the Protestants. The Catholic paupers were put in the stone quarry
and merely placed there with lime over them to get rid of them as soon
as possible. He thought that it was disgraceful that such a thing should
be tolerated in a civilised country. - The Clerk (Mr H J Hagger) stated
that the whole of the bodies of the deceased poor were recently buried
at Walton, in particular graves that Mr Moss seemed to approve of, and
it was at a very strong request of the Roman Catholic poor were not
buried at Walton. The interments were withdrawn from there and now took
place in the Roman Catholic burial ground at Anfield. - Mr Moss: It is
not a burial ground; it is a stone quarry. - The Clerk proceeding, said
the interments were conducted by the Burial Board, which was specially
constituted for the management of the cemetery, and any representation
they liked - (Mr Moss: It is disgraceful.) - to make to that body
no doubt would receive attention. The transfer of the Roman Catholic
burials from Walton to Anfield was by special request. One thing on
which Mr Moss was wrong was with regard to a member of the Burial Board.
There was no Catholic member of the Select Vestry on the Anfield Board,
as he resigned some time ago. - Mr Moss: I give in to that. - The Clerk
added that there was, however, one member of the Vestry that was a
member of the Burial Board, and that was Mr Jenings. - Mr Peet said that
as a churchwarden of that parish he was very sorry that the Roman
Catholic burials were taken from Walton, as it was a source of revenue
to them; therefore the burials would not have been taken from Walton,
had it not been at the special request of the Roman Catholic body. - Mr
Moss rose to make some further remarks, when the Chairman interposed,
and told him he had already spoken three times. - Mr Moss; Yes and I
will speak again; (Hear, hear.) I can't help it. (Laughter.) I will let
the outside public know how these poor paupers are buried. - Mr Rathbone
said it was no disgrace to be buried there, as a great number of the
wealthy people, who had their choice, were buried in what was a quarry,
at St James Cemetery. He remembered that being a quarry in his younger
days. He, however, sympathised with Mr Moss's feelings that he would
rather be buried in soil, and go the way of all flesh naturally. (Hear,
hear.) But yet the majority of those who could and did choose their
burial ground were buried in vaults, and he wished that that system of
burial were put an end to. He should not be buried in that way, because
he would not be a nuisance and a danger to those who remained.
Therefore, the bodies of him and his wife would be cremated when they
died. On that ground, he thought that soil graves were more natural than
a quarry, but still there was no disgrace in it. - Mr Woodcock said he
did not think that Mr Moss should have brought the matter before the
vestry until he has made an inquiry as to whether it was carried out on
a basis of equity and justice. - Mr Moss: It is not justice. - Mr
Woodcock, continuing remarked that the Roman Catholics wished to have
their poor buried there, and how the burials had been carried out
depended more on the Burial Board than the Vestry. He thought that some
of the Catholic authorities would have found it out if anything so
derogatory had been done as Mr Moss had stated. - Alderman Rudkin said
that as far as he was personally concerned, so long as he was buried in
consecrated ground, he did not care whether it was in a quarry or in
clay. It was immaterial to him if he knew that he was on the right road,
and the straight way to Heaven. - Mr Peet said he should like to know if
the Catholics had any grievance or whether Mr O'Shea said he had not
seen the ground, but they were thankful to Mr Moss for bringing the
question forward. If hundreds f bodies tumbled over one another he
certainly did think it objectionable. Mr Moss: Ten on top of each other.
- Mr O'Shea said he did not think ten too many. He certainly found no
objections to rock instead of earth graves. He preferred the rock to
earth, but he found a fault with the Vestry as to giving their credence
in that matter, - Mr Burke asked if the question could not be adjourned
until Mr Philip Smith was preset, as he should like Mr Smith to be
there. - Mr Hagger had relieved his mind, and the Catholics had heard Mr
Moss's tale. - Mr Moss: It is no tale; there is no tale about it. - Mr
Laurence, continuing added that now that the Catholics had heard what Mr
Moss had to say, they could make their own inquiries, and bring the
question forward again if they thought fit. - Mr Gearing said he had
heard that some of the relatives of the poor had not been altogether
satisfied with the way in which there relatives had been buried. He did
believe that they had some cause of complaint if the bodies were being
used for filling up a quarry, and he thought that they should pay a
visit to the cemetery and see what was taking place. - The Chairman: Is
it your pleasure that we go on with the next business? - Several
members: Yes. - The matter then dropped. |
LIVERPOOL MERCURY 4th October 1895 |
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