Y-DNA (37  +  6 additional markers) in miscellaneous clans, uneassigned neither to Rurikids nor Gediminids and Volhynian nobility.

 

Mutation rates in markers marked with pink background are larger (0.003 to 0.005), and those marked with violet background are extremely large (above 0.005) compared with an average mutation rate (which is something like 0.0024). However, in the so-called genetic calculator one can also use different mutation rates in each of the marker panels. Estimated more precisely by the FTDNA Co., the average mutation rates are as follows : 0.00399 (markers 1 – 12), 0.00481 (markers 13 – 25), and 0.00748 (markers 26 - 37), respectively (http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html#MutationRate) . And this is also a clear evidence for this that the markers 26 – 37 are most important in genetic genealogy. When comparing the markers 1 –25 one can only SUSPECT that the two tested males might be related by blood if their markers are matching. By ALL MEANS one needs to check the markers 26 – 37, and especially the fast mutating markers like CDYa, CDYb and DYS 570, to be absolutely CERTAIN that, IN FACT, he IS related by blood with another man. A lot of Y-DNA test results do appear on the Y-search.org database (http://www.ysearch.org/) when the two males are e.g. perfectly matching on their first 12 markers; a certain mismatch, however, small, can appear on the 2nd panel (markers 13 - 25); while a considerable mismatch on the 3rd panel (markers 26 – 37) is a clear evidence for this that they have not been related by blood at all (in historical times – 50-60 generations ago).

 

 

Genetic distance

-6

-5

-4

-3

-2

-1

0 (Perfect match)

+1

+2

+3

+4

+5

+6

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37

Additional

Markers

Additional

Markers

GENETIC

DISTANCE

41

46

59

49

51

58

 

 

Surname and (the 1st)

given name

)

Number

displayed here with

coloured

background

indicates

a kinship

Father’s

given

name

Date of birth

(Also

most

distant

ances-

tor)

Place of birth

Haplo-

group

(in blue

determi-

ned by

SNP

test)

D

Y

S

3

9

3

D

Y

S

3

9

0

D

Y

S

19/

3

9

4

D

Y

S

3

9

1

D

Y

S

3

8

5

a

D

Y

S

3

8

5

b

D

Y

S

4

2

6

D

Y

S

3

8

8

D

Y

S

4

3

9

 

D

Y

S

3

8

9

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D

Y

S

3

9

2

D

Y

S

3

8

9

_2

D

Y

S

4

5

8

D

Y

S

4

5

9

a

D

Y

S

4

5

9

b

D

Y

S

4

5

5

D

Y

S

4

5

4

D

Y

S

4

4

7

D

Y

S

4

3

7

D

Y

S

4

4

8

D

Y

S

4

4

9

D

Y

S

4

6

4

a

D

Y

S

4

6

4

b

D

Y

S

4

6

4

c

D

Y

S

4

6

4

d

D

Y

S

4

6

0

G

A

T

A

H

4

Y

C

A

II

a

Y

C

A

II

b

D

Y

S

4

5

6

D

Y

S

6

0

7

D

Y

S

5

7

6

D

Y

S

5

7

0

C

D

Y

a

C

D

Y

b

D

Y

S

4

4

2

D

Y

S

4

3

8

3

9

5

S

1

b

4

0

6

S

1

D

Y

S

5

2

0

D

Y

S

4

1

3

a

D

Y

S

5

5

7

D

Y

S

4

8

1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prussian

Pilewski Clan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pilewski-

Klec

Slawomir

1 Descendant

of Prussian

prince

 

 

(***)

 

 

1937

Zegrze

 

Poland

R1b1b2-

a1b

13

24

14

11

11

13

12

14

14

13

13

30

17

9

9

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

15

17

11

11

19

23

15

15

17

16

38

38

12

12

 

 

 

Szymanski

Chris

 

2

 

 

 

R1b1

13

24

14

11

11

13

12

14

14

12

13

29

18

9

10

11

11

26

15

19

29

15

15

15

17

11

11

19

23

15

15

17

16

38

38

12

12

 

 

4 (genetic

distance

= 3)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krasicki

Kacper

 

(***)

 

 

 

R1b1

13

24

14

11

11

11

 

 

14

13

13

30

17

 

 

 

 

 

15

19

 

 

 

 

 

 

12

 

 

15

 

 

 

 

 

 

12

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bajor

Andrzej

 

Leopold

21 MAY

1952

Warsaw

Poland

R1a1

 

1/

13

25

17

 

2/

10

10

14

12

12

11

13

11

30

15

9

10

11

11

23

15

20

30

12

15

16

16

12

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

36

39

15

11

17  12  21

22  15  26

17 (genetic

distance

= 20)

Bajor

Modal

 

 

 

 

 

R1a1

13

25

17

 

2/

10

10

14

12

12

11

13

11

30

15

9

10

11

11

23

15

20

30

12

15

16

16

12

11

19

23

16

16

19

19

36

39

15

11

17  12  21

22  15  26

 

Cervinka

 

 

 

 

 

 

R1a1

13

25

16

10

10

14

 

 

11

13

11

30

15

 

 

 

 

 

15

20

 

 

 

 

 

 

11

 

 

16

 

 

 

 

 

 

11

 

 

Mismatching

Bajor

1/16

Von Hake

Clan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hake

Witold

(*)

(***)

 

 

 

E1b1b1a2

12

24

13

10

15

18

11

12

12

13

11

30

15

9

9

11

11

24

15

20

31

14

16

16

17

9

11

19

21

17

13

18

20

31

34

12

10

 

 

 

Helfenstein

 

(*)

(***)

 

 

 

E1b1b1a2

12

24

13

10

15

19

11

12

12

13

11

30

15

9

9

11

11

24

15

19

31

14

16

16

17

9

11

19

21

17

13

17

20

31

34

12

10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cotter

James. J.

(*)

20

 

 

 

R1b1c

13

23

15

10

11

14

12

12

12

13

13

28

16

9

10

11

11

25

15

19

30

15

15

16

17

11

11

19

23

16

16

18

16

35

37

12

12

 

 

 

Rurikson

Erik

 

21

 

 

 

R1b1b2

13

25

14

11

11

13

12

12

13

13

15

29

16

9

10

11

11

25

15

18

30

15

16

16

17

11

11

19

23

17

15

17

17

37

39

12

12

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comments :

 

 (*) He made an extended test. His additional markers are listed at the FTDNA Co. Y-DNA database http://www.ysearch.org/ .

 

 (***) Here are legends or family tales which stay behind somebody’s family tree :

 

1/ Mr. Pilewski’s ancestor Furs von Ryzen (Resia, now Prabuty) (b. ab. 1180, d. 1235) was elected by the ancient Prussians (they were suspected of being the Finno-Ugrians) to become their chieftain. In the year 1235 he lost his life in the battle on the river Dzierzgon against knights of the Teutonic Order. He is administering his home page http://www.pilewski.pl/ . It seems that Mr. Pilewski is descended from ancient Goths, which were living in Prussia  around 1/3 cent. A.D.

 

2/ Mr. Witold von Hake is descended from Otto II von Hacke, who died in Berge near Berlin, Germany, ab. the year 1450. The Helfensteins, which are currently making their Y-DNA tests, are most probably descended from illegal sons of the counts von Helfenstein, which died out in the beginning of 18th century. It seems that the von Ha(c)ke family is a branch in the ancient von Helfenstein family, whose ancestors emerged in the time of Charlemagne.

 

3/ The Count Kacper Krasicki is descended from a brother of the prince archbishop of Warmia, namely Ignacy Krasicki, who was also a famous writer.