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Scans sent by Rita Harvey (9/4/2009)
Page 1
Elder/Flynn book - Centre Co and Clarion Co PA - Chapter 2 - page
1
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/ElderCentreCoPA1.jpg
and
page 2
Elder/Flynn book - Centre Co and Clarion Co PA- Chapter 2
- page 2
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/ElderCentreCoPA2.jpg
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Also, another version is printed in
Elder Family Newsletter, Vol. 1 #2 - Apr., May, June 1993 - page
13
(but no mention of Robert ELDER, b. 1730, Perth Scotland)
Article "The Elder Brothers..."
by Cheryl Ann (Elder) Stone (and Myrtle Eloise Flynn Elder Thompson)
Scanned and posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1213.jpg
References from:
"The Timleck-Hancock and Bradley-Groat Genealogies" online:
lists:
Robert Groat Elder married Myrtle L. FLYNN
posted at
http://homepage.mac.com/jtimleck/html/grpf09399.html
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Why is Nancy K. listed as "Nancy K. ALLEN" and Married, in
1880 census? Did she re-marry after 1870?
Name: Nancy K. Allen
Home in 1880: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Father's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation: Keeping House
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members:
Name Age
Nancy K. Allen 53
Clara E. Elder 15
Source Citation: Year: 1880;
Census Place: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania;
Roll: T9_1117; Family History Film: 1255117; Page: 79.2000;
Enumeration District: 65; Image: 0163.
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1870
Name: Nancy Elder
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age in 1870: 42
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Strattanville
Household Members:
Name Age
Nancy Elder 42
Munson Elder 19
Jasper A Elder 17
Edward Elder 15
Sarah M Elder 12
Robert G Elder 10
Malissa Elder 8
Clarra E Elder 5
Source Citation: Year: 1870;
Census Place: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M593_1326; Page: 397; Image: 112.
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Photo of Sarah M. Elder Kifer and husband
at
http://www.familyoldphotos.com/pa/2g/glen_dore_kifer_and_sarah_margar.htm
WorldConnect
by Victoria DiLuciano
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=vskelly&id=I1817
# ID: I1817
# Name: Nancy K. MCMUNN
# Sex: F
# Birth: 20 JAN 1826 in Clarion County, PA
Father: John MCMUNN b: 1805 in PA
Mother: Margaret MCINTYRE b: 1808
Marriage 1 John ELDER b: 28 JAN 1821 in [Centre County, PA]
* Married: 2 SEP 1847 in Washington, PA
Children
1. Sarah Margaret ELDER b: 20 SEP 1858 in Clarion
County, Pa
2. Munson ELDER b: 1851
3. Jasper Newton ELDER b: 3 JUN 1854 in Clarion
County, PA
4. Edward ELDER b: 25 SEP 1856
5. Robert George ELDER b: 12 FEB 1860 in Clarion
County, Pa
6. Melissa Elizabeth ELDER b: 6 MAR 1862
7. Clara E. ELDER b: 19 JAN 1865
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# ID: I1816
# Name: John ELDER
# Sex: M
# Birth: 28 JAN 1821 in [Centre County, PA]
# Death: 12 OCT 1865 in [Asbury, Clarion Co PA}
Father: John ELDER
Mother: Margaret SCOTT b: in Northern Ireland
Marriage 1 Nancy K. MCMUNN b: 20 JAN 1826 in Clarion County, PA
* Married: 2 SEP 1847 in Washington, PA
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WorldConnect
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=vskelly&id=I0375
# ID: I0375
# Name: William [S.] ELDER
# Sex: M
# Birth: 30 JUL 1826 in Franklin County, PA
# Death: 9 SEP 1887 in [Clarion Co PA]
# Fact 2: Was Reared in Centre County, PA
Father: John ELDER
Mother: Margaret SCOTT b: in Northern Ireland
Marriage 1 Lucy KIFER b: 1828 in Clarion County, PA
Children
1. Anna S. ELDER b: in Clarion County, PA
2. Clark ELDER b: in Clarion County, PA
3. Alice ELDER b: in Clarion County, PA
4. William ELDER b: in Clarion County, PA
5. Margery J. ELDER b: in Clarion County, PA
6. Glen D. ELDER b: in Clarion County, PA
7. Adam J. ELDER b: 5 JUL 1854 in Clarion County,
Pa
**
Asbury Cemetery stone:
ELDER, William S. - July 30, 1826 to October 9, 1887
Lucy (his wife) - March 25, 1828 to February 16, 1956
***
# ID: I1887
# Name: Robert George ELDER
# Sex: M
# Birth: 12 FEB 1860 in Clarion County, Pa
Father: John ELDER b: 28 JAN 1821 in Center County, PA
Mother: Nancy K. MCMUNN b: 20 JAN 1826 in Clarion County, PA
Marriage 1 Cora [GROAT]
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WorldConnect
by Teresa Gaskell
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=theresagaskell&id=I26541
# ID: I26541
# Name: ROBERT GEORGE ELDER
# Sex: M
# Birth: 12 FEB 1860 in CLARION COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA.
# Death: 31 OCT 1935 in SPOKANE, SPOKANE COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
# Note:
1900 CENSUS: GARFIELD, WHITMAN COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
SERIES T623,
....
Marriage 1 CORA HELEN GROAT b: 30 MAY 1862 in IOWA.
* Married: 20 NOV 1889 in GARFIELD, WHITMAN COUNTY,
WASHINGTON.
Children
1. LIZZIE ELIZABETH SICKLER ELDER b: 19 SEP 1890
in GARFIELD, WHITMAN COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
2. ROBERT GROAT ELDER b: 16 JUL 1893 in SPOKANE,
SPOKANE COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
3. CORA ANN ELDER b: 18 SEP 1897 in SPOKANE,
SPOKANE COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
4. Living ELDER
5. BLANCHE ELDER b: 15 JUL 1906 in SPOKANE, SPOKANE
COUNTY, WASHINGTON.
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Transcribed from the paper files of Rita Utt Harvey - Letters by
her "Great Aunt Anna" and others.
.".Ella ION has completed an ELDER Family Tree.
Myrtle has been working on one for her kids for several years.
She has traced her own family and our Dad and Mother's as far as
she could.
So she is interested in all this, too.
They told me that 4 Elder Brothers came to America from Ireland
and
2 were killed by Indians and the other 2 settled in Centre Co Penn.
"Myrtle wrote me that Clive Gwinn said all the Gwinns, Elders
and Mooneys came
from Curlsville PA, and for me to contact a Mr. Curl
there.
[Curllsville, near Clarion, PA]
So while at Beaver Falls, I drove up about 100 miles north
and contacted the Curls.
They were lovely old people and knew the Gwinns, and all their wives
and the Mooneys.
But never heard of Dad. They had a book, like a family Bible,
with the names dates etc. of all the old
(Letter Page 2):
familys of Clarion Co. but Dad's wasn't there. Many other
Elders.
I found out later, it was because his Father died before the book
came out.
Then he told me Ed Mooney, a brother of Bill's lived up the road.
When I told Mr. Mooney ( a man 87) who I was and asked if he knew
my Dad,
he said, "Robby Elder! I'll say I do!"
You know Aunt Saddy always called Dad Robby, and I found out later
that was the name he went by
until he came West.
Mr. Mooney said Dad came to Curlsville and worked two summers
to go to school at Edinboro. [in Erie Co PA]
That is how he met the Gwinns. But he didn't know where he
came from.
Said he could remember when Dad and Howard Gwinn could beat everyone
else on Debate Night
at the Licking Presbyterian Church.
He visited in our home in Garfield in 1903 - stayed about a year
with Bill, wanted
to know all about Bill's family, the Gwinns, Stivers, Jacksons,
etc.
I went to Clarion 10 miles and stayed all night.
Next morning I started sifting thru the Elders.
I found an old lady 90 who was the widow of Will Elder, a
cousin of Dad's.
She sent me to her son Russel, out past Strattanville, by the Asbury
church (Methodist).
There I struck pay dirt, as Dad and Mother had visited in
the home in '28.
He and his wife were so very understanding.
They took me to the Asbury Church Yard and found our Grandfather's
tomb stone, John Elder, born 1821 - died 1865, when Dad was 5 yrs
old.
I met Russel's sister, a Mrs. Haines, the most attractive
woman I
nearly ever saw, and she is our third cousin.
They had a plot of the Church Yard.
There are 6 other graves, one is Munce, Dad's brother.
The others have no markers. But I presume one is our grandmother's...."
***
Bio of Robert George ELDER and Cora Helen GROAT
Robert George ELDER, born Feb. 18, 1860, Clarion Co Penn - died Oct.
1935, Garfield [Whitman County] Wash.
Cora Helen GROAT, born May 31, 1862 in Iowa - died Oct. 1935, Garfield,
Wash.
Cora Helen GROAT, daughter of Rev. E.G.O. and Delia GROAT was born
in Iowa.
As a child she was a pianist and a soprano soloist in her father's
Baptist Church and
lived in various towns in Iowa. Cora moved with her parents
to the Territory of Washington
in the 1890's. She obtained a teaching job in a newly built
school in Garfield, Wash.
The school was a two-room school and she taught the 4 lower grades.
Robert George Elder, son of John and Nancy Elder was born in Clarion
Co., Penn.
His life was a struggle for at the age of 5 his father died.
Robert started work in his Grandfather's sawmill at the age of six
carrying bales of shingles on his head. As a child he was
called Robbie and as
an adult he went by Bob. He always made his own living and
at one time worked on a
farm for room and board and 50 cents a month. Through all
of this he
managed to educate himself and go onto put himself through Edinboro
in [Erie County] Penn.
He also helped his younger sister get an education.
At the age of 19 he came out west to Washington Territory and taught
school for one year. Realizing he needed more education he
returned to Penn.
In his late 20's he returned to the territory and settled in Garfield
where he
became Principal and taught the four upper grades in the two-room
school.
Five months after he met Cora Helen Groat, they were married in
Garfield on Nov. 27, 1888.
Robert and Cora Elder saved their money and bought 160 acres of wheat
land from the railroad for $8 an acre. This land layed at
the foot of
Steptoe Butte, which is the highest, treeless butte in the U.S.
The Butte is a National Monument named after Col. Steptoe who fought
the
Indians from this vantage point. About 1898 Robert rented
the land out and
moved into town again where Robert became owner-editor of the Garfield
Enterprise,
a weekly newspaper. Many of his editorials were picked up
and reprinted in the
Portland Oregonian, Seattle Times, and the Spokane Review.
Robert Elder, who had great patience, a splendid sense of humor,
was a
very conservative Republican and a great lover of justice.
These interests
led him into county politics where he was on the Garfield School
Board and
some State Agricultural Offices and Vice-Pres of State Bank.
Cora Elder died of cancer at the age of 72. A week later Robert
at the age of 75
was killed in an auto accident when a semi-truck crashed into him
while trying
to avoid a boy on a bicycle.
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EDINBORO ACADEMY, Erie Co PA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinboro_University_of_Pennsylvania
"Edinboro University of Pennsylvania was founded as the Edinboro
Academy,
a private training school for Pennsylvania teachers in 1857,
by the region's original Scottish settlers.
It is the oldest training institution west of the Allegheny Mountains
and
the second oldest in all of Pennsylvania.
As a people, the Scots were both hearty and hardy.
Their commitment to teaching and learning, their work ethic, and
their strength of family tempered by upbringing in the great Highland
Clans
have brought a unique perspective and commitment to all we do at
Edinboro University today..."
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WorldConnect
by JAMES HUG
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3317764&id=I109167
# ID: I109167
# Name: George Washington ION
# Given Name: George Washington
# Surname: Ion
# Sex: M
# Birth: May 1862 in , Clarion, PA
# Death: 24 Dec 1939 in , Clarion, PA
# Ancestral File #: 1GPN-FVJ 1 2
Marriage 1 Anna Susannah ELDER b: Mar 1859 in Clarion Co, PA
* Married: 27 Apr 1886 in Strattanville, Clarion,
PA
Children
1. Blanche Bessie ION b: Apr 1887 in , Clarion,
PA
2. Ella Bell ION b: 22 May 1889 in , Clarion,
PA
3. Meade E. ION b: 7 Apr 1892 in , Clarion, PA
Sources:
2. Abbrev: Ancestral File (TM)
Title: Ancestral File (TM)
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints
Publication: June 1998 (c), data
as of 5 JAN 1998
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# Name: Anna Susannah ELDER
# Given Name: Anna Susannah
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: F
# Birth: Mar 1859 in Clarion Co, PA
# Death: in Clarion Co, PA
# Ancestral File #: 1GPN-FWQ 1 2
Father: William B. ELDER b: 30 Jul 1826 in Franklin Co, PA
Mother: Lucy KIFER b: 1828 in Clarion Co, PA
Marriage 1 George Washington ION b: May 1862 in , Clarion, PA
* Married: 27 Apr 1886 in Strattanville, Clarion,
PA
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FATHER:
# ID: I108028
# Name: William B. ELDER
# Given Name: William B.
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 30 Jul 1826 in Franklin Co, PA
# Death: 9 Sep 1887 in Westmoreland Co, PA 1
Marriage 1 Lucy KIFER b: 1828 in Clarion Co, PA
* Married:
Children
1. Margery J. ELDER b: 1851 in Clarion Co, PA
2. Adam John ELDER b: 5 Jul 1854 in Clarion Co,
PA
3. Glen Dove ELDER b: 1856 in Clarion Co, PA
4. Anna Susannah ELDER b: Mar 1859 in Clarion
Co, PA
5. Alice D. ELDER b: May 1862 in Clarion Co,
PA
6. Clark ELDER b: Mar 1866 in Clarion Co, PA
7. William M. ELDER b: 1869 in Clarion Co, PA
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1860
Name: John Elder
Age in 1860: 38
Birth Year: abt 1822
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Post Office: Clarion
Household:
John Elder 38 abt 1822 Pennsylvania
Nancy Elder 36 abt 1824 Pennsylvania
Munson Elder 9 abt 1851
Pennsylvania
Newton Elder 7 abt 1853 Pennsylvania
Edward Elder 5 abt 1855 Pennsylvania
Sarah Elder 3 abt 1857 Pennsylvania
Robert Elder 6.12 abt 1859 Pennsylvania
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania;
Roll: M653_1095; Page: 97; Image: 99.
(William on same page, age 33 with family)
***
1910
Name: Russell Elder
Age in 1910: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: William M.
Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Mother's Name: Eva
Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Home in 1910: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
William M. Elder 41
Eva
36
Vera
15
Leanore
13
Nellie
11
Hazel Elder
8
Russell Elder
6
Margaret Elder 4
Arthur
1.2
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Clarion, Clarion, Pennsylvania;
Roll: T624_1329; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 6; Image: 902.
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Atlas 1877 Land plats for ELDER, McMUNN ION, CURL, FRAMPTON, etc.
in Clarion Co PA
http://ancestortracks.com/Clarion%20County/Atlas_of_ClarionCo,ClarionTp.jpg