NOTE: There are at least two Brombachs. This Brombach is part of the city of Loerrach, about 3 km north-east of Loerrach itself, which is southwest of Stuttgard GERMANY, and east of Mulhouse (FRANCE) on the Switzerland border. (L�rrach-Brombach). See L�rrach, in wikipedia
Brunner family connections
Although Wilhelmina Ertel's two sisters lived in New Bedford, Massachusetts, Ernst brought his wife and children to Dayton, Ohio in 1888 or 1889, where his half-brother, Fred BRUNNER was living, and had found work.
Apparently Ernst and Fred had the same mother, Maria Katharina (BRUNNER) ERTEL.
Fred came to Dayton, Ohio first, doing carpentry work on Barney and Smith railway cars. Later he worked for Muth Brother's Moving, and moved to Belmont, Ohio. He and his wife Barbara had a son, Paul BRUNNER, and two or three daughters. In Dayton, they lived on Nassau Street, the east end.
Some Brunners and Bruners buried in Dayton Ohio, Woodland Cemetery:
Cousin Bill Kenney remembers that years ago his mother would talk of Jakobina (phonetically "Yachabina") Kubler. We think his mother was talking of her great-grandmother, back in Brombach Germany.
The collection called "GERMANY MARRIAGES 1700-1900" (click, then see right "father of bride") shows Wilhelmine KUEBLER's parents were Johann Jakob and Jakoba (WEBER) KUEBLER. Also spelled Jacobine WEBER, she married Johann Jacob KUEBLER in Germany by 1854.
Their known children were:
* Mary KUEBLER (m Mr. MOSER) b 1854
* Louise KUEBLER (m Mr. BOEHLER) b 1855 - d 1926 geni.com
** dau Louise Boehler married Mr. WESTBY
* Wilhelmina KUEBLER (m Ernst ERTEL) b August 23, 1859 or 1863
Short Ertel Family Timeline: in GERMANY then Ohio, USA
Immigrated to Ohio, USA
1888: Ernst and family moved to Dayton Ohio USA to join Fred BRUNNER & family
1891: Bertha Ertel (Jul 3)
1895: Herman Mark Ertel (Jun 15)
1896: Ernst and Minia ERTEL were naturalized, per 1920 census
1897: Edward George Ertel (Oct 5)
1903: Mina married Ed STEILN (Sep)
1905: Frieda married Charles M. ZIMMERMAN (Feb 13)
1915: Carl married Lillie BERGER (Jan 15)
1920: (census) Ernst ERTEL and Minia ERTEL were living in Dayton, OH.
1940: Edward married Frances GEORGE
Ernst and Wilhelmina (KUEBLER) ERTEL and children History
1858 or 1861 July Ernst L. Ertel was born on 30 July 1858 per his tombstone (or 1860 or 1861, other sources) to Martin and Maria Katharina (BRUNNER) ERTEL, according to their marriage license, from familysearch.org (Family Search-Record Search).
1859 or 1863 Aug 23: Mina Kuebler was born to Johann Jakob KUEBLER and Jakoba WEBER
* Ernst Ludwig (or Louis, per his tombstone) ERTEL:
Originally thought to be from Alsace-Loraine, Germany, which since World War II has been part of France, later information on Ernst indicates that he and Wilhelmine Kuebler were from Brombach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany, across the Rhine River in southwestern Germany. From Baden, Ernst spoke low German Badish. He was a short man, not much taller than 5 feet. He was a carpenter by trade, a cabinet maker on Pulman railroad cars. At various times, Ernst also worked at an ice plant and repaired wagons. One granddaughter recalled that he didn't like cats!
1881 11 August: Ernst married Mina Kuebler in Brombach, Loerrach, Baden in the southwest part of Germany on August 11, 1881 in the Evangelisch church (Lutheran, apparently). He was at least 20-23 years old. She was almost 18 years old.
* Mina (KUEBLER) ERTEL:
Other names for Wilhelmina were Minny, Mine, Mina and KIBLER, KUEBLER, and GABLE. In Germany, Mina worked in a cotton mill across the border in Switzerland. She had at least 2 sisters. She was short like her husband, 5 feet tall or less, and was known for her keen sense of humor. She would sing as she worked, and baked "out of this world" bread, according to granddaughter Charlotte ZIMMERMAN. Her springerle recipe was a favorite of other children and grandchildren. Wilhelmina continued speaking German throughout her life, even in America.
Ernst ERTEL, husband, and Minia ERTEL, wife, were living on Bolton Street in Dayton, OH. Ernst was a carpenter. Both had been naturalized in 1896. Ernst (60) would be born 1860 (not proven). Minia (57) would have been born about 1863 (not proven). (Tombstones have different dates.) The couple came to Ohio in 1889. Living with them were * Edward G. ERTEL, 22 year old son born in Ohio (born 1897), was a pressman in a printing office. * Edward STEILN, 38 year old son-in-law born in Ohio (so born 1882?), was a plumber for the Dayton City Water Works * Minia STEILN, 36 year old daughter born in Germany (so born 1884?)
1926 and 1927: Mina died 30 December 1926. Ernst died in June 1927. Both were buried at the Dayton Memorial Park Cemetery. He was buried in Lot 5 Section 135, space 3 on June 24, 1927 in Dayton Memorial Park, next to his wife, at FindAGrave.com.
b 7 (or 22) Nov 1881, Germany
d 14 Feb 1962 (80) Dayton OH cause
married Edward STEILN, Sept 1903
b. 1877
d. Jun 1966 (88-89) Dayton OH
no children
The SSDI age at Mina's death in February 1962 agreed with her birth date in November 1881. The 1900 census showed Mina Ertel as a servant at the home of Charles DANIELS. Another source said Mina was a cook for a HARBINE family before her marriage. The first of the children to marry, Mina's wedding was September 1903, when she was nearly 22. Mina's husband, Edward M. STEILN, was born in 1877 so he was about 26. He worked in Dayton at the City Water Works.
They had no children, but her obituary indicated that they had adopted two STEILN children: Mrs. Ed HUNE and Margaret STEILN. Elsie DUDLEY and nephew Dudley DORSEY were related to Ed STEILN.
In their later years, after "Minnie" had a goiter removed, she gained quite a lot of weight. Eventually she became bedfast with paralysis. Ed cared for her at home. He liked to exercise and boasted about his good health and stamina. He and Minnie had a huge German Bible, which may have been the Ertel family Bible. Ed had a nephew, Dudley DORSEY, born around the end of 1942 in Dayton.
b 20 Mar 1884 (Brombach Germany)
d (young, between 1884-1888)
cause unknown
never married no children
Ernst and Wilhelmina Ertel's 1st son, Ernst
Name: Ernst
Residence: Brombach, Loerrach, Baden
Christening date: 20 Apr 1884
Christening place: EVANGELISCH, BROMBACH, LOERRACH, BADEN
Birth date: 20 Mar 1884
Birth place:
Father name: Ernst Ertel
Father name note:
Mother name: Mina Kuebler
Mother name note:
Gender: Male
Death date:
Name note:
UDE batch number: C93486-2
Date range: 1870 - 1901
Record group: Germany-VR
Film number: 1189314
SOURCE - Collection: Germany Baptisms 1700-1900
3. Carl ERTEL, Methodist minister lived in Germany & Ohio USA
b 3 April 1885 Germany
d 2 July 1952 OH (67) stomach cancer
married Lillie Clara BERGER (15 Jan 1915)
b 22 Nov 1892 Sardis, Monroe Co OH
d 24 May 1968 (75) Piqua, Miami Co OH
4 children
married Charles M. ZIMMERMAN
b 16 Aug 1881
d
2? children
Frieda was born 20 November 1886. Frieda told her children that her family came to the United States when she was still two in 1889. She almost fell overboard into the Atlantic Ocean during the two week or longer voyage. A sailor grabbed her and saved her life. No one remembers which ship they came on.
There was about a 5 year gap between Frieda's November 1886 birth in Germany and Bertha's July 1891 birth in Ohio, USA.
On February 13 1905, Frieda ERTEL married Charles M. ZIMMERMAN, born August 16, 1881. He was 23 and she was 18. They had met in Dayton.
In 1906, their first child, and Ernst and Wilhelmina's first grandchild, Emma Edna Wilhelmina ZIMMERMAN, was born on her Grandma Wilhelmina's birthday, August 23, in Logansport, Indiana. By the time Frieda and Charles' second child, Charlotte, was born on July 22 1908, they had returned to Dayton. Emma was not well; the two year old contracted polio around 1908. John Ernest was born March 23 1910, and their last child, Dorothy, was born March 5 1913. The ZIMMERMANs lived at Pritz and Lorain Avenue (912 Lorain) in Dayton. Frieda is said to have made good turtle soup and apple pies.
5. Bertha ERTEL lived in Ohio USA
b 3 Jul 1891 OH
d 5 Sep 1968 OH (77)
cause?
married Walter Louis DOENCH
b 16 Jan 1890
d 22 Nov 1971 (81) Woodland Cemetery, Dayton OH
1 son
Bertha ERTEL married Walter Louis DOENCH (in 1924). Walter was the son of Henry P (1862-1946) and Emma R. DOENCH (1863-1951).
They had one son: Walter Charles DOENCH b 25 May 1925 - d 6 May 2000 (74). Walt married Deloris June (when? 1945?). Dee was born 9 Jan 1925 and died 27 Apr 2006. Walt was a WWII Air Force veteran and an architech.
Walt died 5 days following a stroke, and was buried at Woodland Cemetery.
Their two children, Bertha's grandchildren, were:
1) Cynthia DOENCH PEREIRA Brentwood, CA
2) Dwight DOENCH married Judy & lived in Miamisburg, OH. They had no children together. Judy previously had 3 children: Lauren ISAACS, Jeff ERICSON, & Shelly ERICSON
Great-grandchildren:
Great-great-grandchildren
1) Kirsten PEREIRA - teen in 2000
2) Melissa PEREIRA - teen in 2000
6. Herman ERTEL lived in Ohio USA
WWI
b 15 June 1895
d 24 Aug 1960 (65) FindAGrave
cause
married Elizabeth MISNER
b 22 Aug 1903
d 18 Sep 1987 (84) FindAGrave
2 children: Elizabeth "Betty" Lois ERTEL ROSE (75) Harmon Lee ERTEL (65)
Herman Mark ERTEL married Elizabeth MISNER
They had 2 children, Betty Lois and Harmon Lee ERTEL
Obituary for Elizabeth "Betty" Lois ERTEL ROSE ( 16 Aug 1927 - 14 December 2002)
Elizabeth ROSE, age 75 passed away Saturday, December 14, 2002 at her home. She was preceded in death by her son Mark [19 Aug 1953-2 Aug 2002], parents Herman and Elizabeth ERTEL, brother Harmon ERTEL. She is survived by
her daughter Susan PETERSON of Raymore, MO; son James and wife Jeri ROSE of Cincinnati; granddaughters Stephanie PETERSON and Teri WICKLINE; grandson Josh PETERSON; great grandson Justin WICKLINE; and a host of other relatives and friends.
Funeral services will be 7:oopm Thursday at Newcomer-Farley Funeral Home 3940 Kettering Blvd. Family will recieve friends from 5-7:00 pm at the funeral home prior to service. Interment at Dayton Memorial Park Cemetery.
Obituary for Harmon Lee ERTEL (15 June 1937- 22 November 2002) from the
Springfield News-Sun
HARMON L. ERTEL, 65, of South Vienna, passed away unexpectedly at 3:20 p.m. Friday, November 22, 2002 in Community Hospital. He was born June 15, 1937 in Dayton, Ohio the son
of Herman and Elizabeth (Misner) Ertel.
Mr. Ertel enjoyed volunteering at the Clark County
Heritage Center and was a Veteran of the United States Air Force. He was retired from IBM. He was also self employed by B and H Services and was employed by Alpha National in Dallas,
Texas.
Survivors include his wife of 27 years, Barbara (Hester) Ertel; two children, Matt
(Kim) Ertel, Woodstock, Ohio, Holli (Ty) Gomez, Urbana, and 4 step-children: Jamie (Jeff) Richmond,
and Debbie Nole of Hilliard, Ohio, Bobbie (Louie) Stoll, Springfield, Roxanne Grimes, Bellefontaine; nine grandchildren, Shawna Richmond, Cortney and Shelbi Ertel, David and Brad Grimes, Bobby
(Amy) Stoll, Randi Stoll, Christian and Braden Gomez; three great-grandchildren, Lucy Stoll, Brandi, and Thomas; one sister, Betty Lois Rose, Dayton, and numerous nieces and nephews.
He was preceded in death by his parents.
Friends may call in the JONES-KENNEY-ZECHMAN FUNERAL
HOME from 5 until 8 p.m. Monday. Funeral services will be held at 8 p.m. with Pastor Rick Clos
officiating. Memorial contributions may be made to the Clark County Heritage Center.
(m) Wilhelmina KIBLER
* Ernst Ludwig ERTEL
