Kreller-Creller
From the lands of the Rhine to America
Also spelt - Creler ,Kruler, Cruller, Kroler, Keeller, Craller, Crellior, Crouler , Cullen , Cheller ,Treller
and possibly Crawler
(perhaps more spellings to follow)
From what we have been able to gather, the Creller family ( perhaps spelt Kreller in the beginning) originated in the Palatine area of Europe, (what we know now to be Germany). There was an on going history of feudal fighting in this area becausee the separate states were forged into one united Germany (almost similar to what we find in Yugoslavia in the 1990's ). Strong feudal lords or Princes of small realms, (to a Canadian or American perhaps the area of a large modern farm) each with his own alliances, political, economic and religious were rebelling against greater forces of the mostly Prussian feudal Lords, as they did not want to give up any territorial privileges to join a larger ruling body . A situation very similar on the Canadian political scene (except for the violence) as each Provincial Prime Minister wants to keep his powers ( mostly taxing and spending powers) for himself rather that allowing himself and his province to join the Federal body for the benefit of the whole ( almost like in CANADA)).
The17th century in southern Germany, as well as in all of Europe is a nightmare scene. Swedish, French Austrian English Spanish and Hungarian troops battled each other, as well as those Dutche speaking forces, on what is now German soil. The troops engaged in fighting were outnumbered five to one by the hordes of camp followers. This horde was made up of men, women and children,no army regulations controlled these followers who lived a parasitic existence.
Armies marched two days ahead of the camp followers who acted as beast of burden, lugging the cooking utensils, a little furniture and the children. They were a ragged, poor , dirty ,emaciated, sickly part of humanity. As an army advanced through a territory they helped themselves to whatever food and tools that they needed from the local farms. The camp followers lived off the soldiers leavings, and took what the soldiers might have over looked. After an area had been pillaged, famine plague, typhus and/or cholera was certain to follow.
In 1688 Louis the XIV, King of France ordered that the earth of the Rhine Valley be burned. The only castle to survive was the Marksburg. History tells us that the Elector Wilhelm stood on the walls of his castles at Mannheim and counted in one day, twenty three villages on fire.
That any church and court records, somehow managed to survive the ravages ia a miracle. This disturbance or feudal conflict is part of what inspired the people to leave the Rhineland. In addition to which the rulers of the individual German states, burdened their subjects with unreasonable taxes and forced military service. Of course there were also the " Golden Books " , written by various good doers, such as the Rev Kocherthal, a German Lutheran pastor. The books prepared on the most part from hearsay evidence, extolled the life in a new land, the Island of the Carolines. They told of a land without taxes, free transportation to get there, and that farming tools would be provided to till the rich land. It was propaganda at its best and behind the scheme was the government of England.
England was the protector of the Protestant cause in Europe. Queen Anne came to the throne in 1702, and the War with the Spanish Succession began in 1707. England attempted to secure religious rights and civil rights for Protestants on the Continent. Queen Anne's consort was a Lutheran, who had brought many of his co-religionists to England. Under Queen Anne's influence , the government of the time recruited and proposed to finance the emigration to America.
It was decided that the newly appointed governor to New York would sail in 1710 with 2,800 Palatines, they were to be transported in 11 ships . The trip down the Rhine took from 4 to 6 weeks. Boats didn't move on the Sabbath nor on holidays, there were 36 customs houses to pass and tolls to pay at each. At each toll, the cargo was inspected, at the major points every thing had to be unloaded, those who chose to follow this route were taxed in various forms and many arrived penniless at Rotterdam. The Palatines however flooded Rotterdam by the thousands in the spring of 1709. They filled inns, houses, they camped on beaches in reed shacks and in the open air without shelter. They weren't expected in these numbers and were not welcomed. Food and shelter hadn't been provided and there was no transportation to England. Finally ships that were transporting military troops to the Continent were used to transport the Palatines to England on their return trips. England itself was caught unawares. The English gouvernment had instigated the mass exodus, but had not prepared for the number of people who wanted to take advantage of the offer in the new lands. Once again the people were crushed together in barns, tents and on shipboard, awaiting what would be the hellish trip to New York.Those of the Catholic faith who had left the Rhineland were given the opportunity to convert or to be sent back., many were simply sent back, of those Protestant who arrived some 3000 of then were sent to Ireland against their desire
The English government had rounded up the eleven boats in which to transport the Palatines. They were boats that had been declared unfit to transport cattle to the colonies, and of course the owners were delighted to have cargo. Each of the eleven boats had a German list master. Of the first 2,814 Palatines who set sail for New York 446 died on the trip, and 250 died upon landing, there were by family count 847 in number.
When they disembarked from the ships they found a life as bad or more so then the one from which they were fleeing. New York did not want them, the city council was angry that 2,500 or so disease ladened newcomers were on their door steps, so the Palatines were force together into tents set up on Hutten Island, off shore from New York.
Before the Palatines had left England for America they were read the terms under which they would live once they arrived in the Colony. They all agreed to the version read to them in their own Germanic language. They agreed to pay the cost of their settlement out of the profits that they would make from manufacturing tar for the British Navy. Once these costs had been paid, each would receive 40 acres of land in the area of New York called Schoharie.
The Gouvernment of England however had come up with another plan, in Henry Jones's " The Palatine Families of New York 1710 'Volume I' " there is a brief outline of this plan
On Sept. 29 1710, Governor Hunter entered into an agreement with Robert Livingston, Commissioner of Indian Affairs, to purchase a tract of 6,000 acres on the east side of the Hudson for the purpose of settling the Palatines there to manufacture naval stores. In October, many of the Germans began going up the river, clearing the ground and building huts on the Livingston Tract. Gradually, small distinct settlements appeared at East Camp called Hunterstown, Queens-bury, Annsbury and Haysbury : the villages on the west side of the Hudson were Elizabeth Town, George Town and New Town. The settlements on the East side of the Hudson is now the town of Germantown . The camps on the west side is know today as West Camp Rev Kocherthall established a congregation there and it continues today as the Lutheran Church.Records have been provided information indicating that a Peter Kreller left an area near Dresden, travelling to Rotterdam where he embarked on his journey to the New World.
On June 17 1734 we find records of Johanne Peter Creller taking the oath of Allegiance to the British Crown, becoming a naturalized British subject in the colony of New York (Remec NY)
Records also show that Peter married Anna Maria Dorethea Wollenben (born in West Camp, New York 19 Nov. 1714) and brought up a family in or around Rhinebeck NY . It is from this family that a branch of the Creller is connected to the Macfie of Clarenceville Quebec.
The only Creller family records that have been found so far are records that show a Maria Catharina Creller born about 1692, in Daudenzell ( Dresden) ,marrying a Leonhardt Hans Erkenbrecht (b 1687). They had one child named Anna Maria Dorotea,( Peter appears as witness the baptism (in the new world)) . It is assumed that this Maria is Peter Creller's sister and she named her child after his wife, who may have been her best friend in America.
We have been fortunate enough to have been provided with some information on Anna's family line, her great grandfather apparently was a Pastor named Johann Paulis Wohleben of Steinbocken, Westphalia . Johann Paulis arrived in America with two sons who were named , Johann Philipp and Vanentin. Johann Wollenben married Anna Margreth and had a daughter Anna Maria born May 12 1713 in West Camp, NY and Vanentin was married to Susanna. (There is one family name attached to the births of the children of these two couples, Caputzgin, so it could be assumed that the two women, or at least one of them may have carried this as their family name. It is noted that often two brothers of one family married the two sisters of the other family).
Unfortunately at this time (2001 to 2010) we do not have very much information regarding the life and times of Peter Creller and his family as they lived their life in the 13 Colonies, we do know that they in the majority remained loyal to the British Crown, and the event of the American Revolution caused them difficulties. There appears to have been a split in the Creller family with one family moving north into Canada while the other remained in the northwestern part of New York State.
NOTE: The Library of Congress ( USA) have very kindly made thier possession readable on line : I have linked several volumes here that you might want to review if you want to fully understand the turbulent times that our Creller family lived in. There is however no reference to Kreller or Creller ( or to any of the other spellings) but much mention of " and other families " . As we find many names of those who may have been neighbours, I have assumed that there is a good chance that we were lumped in with the " and others" . The facts remain the same, with the hardships on the wilderness, the conflict of the French - Indian wars of 1759, the conflict of the Rebellion of the 13 Colonies, and the presence of terrible sicknesses, we can assume that our family member were not immune and have been lost to us. The burning of towns and villages, including Churches and town meeting places certainly brought about the loss of many records that might have provided us with much valued information. We have managed to accumulated enough information to make this skeleton family portrait , even if some of the dates cannot be confirmed.
Enjoy reading the following, and I trust you will bave a better idea of what our family among others went through once they arrived here in the new world.
- Book 1
- Book 2
- Book 3
- Book 4
- Book 5
- Book 6
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We find one Creller family with new residence in the upper part of the continent ( upper Vermont state as we know it today). Three Creller fought with the Loyalist forces at Bennington , they were Peter John and Phillip . Peter and phillip listed among those taken prisoner by the revolutionary forces. It is believed that John was killed during this encounter, however no records of his capture nor death have been found .
As the American Revolution began in earnest in 1774, some forty years after Peter Creller became a British subject, we are uncertain that we can assume that he himself or his wife Anna Maria Doretea was still living. If they were,they would be probably in their early 70's. No records have been found attesting to thier deaths, nor burials.
Many people did not survive to the promised three score and ten, and we cannot assume that Peter and his wife were any different. They had already progressed through many difficulties, wars in Europe, overseas travel, beginning again in a new land, a land of English where they were the foreigners.( This is one area that remains to be researched in more detail and at this time there are several particulars working on these details ).
While the Creller name does not appear very often in any documentation regarding the history of the area where it has been assumed that they first settled we have found many other family names with whom the Creller have associated themsleves, either though marriage,or simple association.
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While it is very difficult to locate records pertaining to the Creller family, the Wollenben family has been recorded at several places in the history of West Camp NY. By clicking here you will be able to see more of the information that has been accumulated. WOLLENBEN
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Notes from church records of Dutchess County, New York: He married 11
JACOB HEINER, bp 13 Oct 1732; sp Jacob ; Margaretha Bayer; bp by Dom. Mansius at
Ger Ref). Another reading of the record has him bp 16 Dec 1732 with sp Jacob & Margaretha
Geger. He was confirmed 12 Apr 1748, aged 15 years; confirmation sponsor Martin Thiel
(Rhinebeck Luth Chbk). Three of his brothers were confirmed on the same date.
Nov 1752 Magdalena Kreller (Rhinebeck Ref Chbk 1751-52).
Maria, bp 27 Mar 1754; sp Werner Heiner & Maria Kreller (Rhinebeck Flats Ref).
Margaretha, b 25 Mar 1756, bp 19 Apr 1756; sp Johannes Hondsicker & Margaret
Kreller (Rhinebeck Flats Ref).
Catharina, bp 27 Jan 1765 at Hoseck; sp Sebastian Diel ; wife (Scho Luth).
Wilhelm, b 24 Apr 1767; sp Hanne Heene & Margaret Davenport (Schaghticoke Ref).
Cornelius, b 15 Mar 1770; sp Cornelius v. Esch & Alida v. Woert (Alb Ref).
Johannes, b 20 May 1775 (Schaghticoke Ref).
Maria 27 Mar 1754
Margaretha 25 Mar 1756
Catharia 27 Jan 1765
Whillem 24 Apr 1767
Cornelius 15 Mar 1770
Johannes 20 May 1775
For a more indepth history see the Hoener (Hayner) Family
Notes from Hayner family assoc indicate that a Werner Hoener (10) would have married a Maria Kreller who may or may not have been John Peter Kreller's sister but doubtfully his daughter.
102. There is no definitive Bible record of the births of his 12 children, whose order of birth is not
entirely certain. In the following pages these children are designated as the 2nd Generation in
America.
+ 1. Bernhardt, m(1) Catharina; m(2) Elizabeth Finckel
+ 2. Rebecca, m Matthys Van den Burg
+ 3. Eva Margaret, m Johannes Conrad
+ 4. Johannes, Jr., m Anna Maria Schever (Shaffer)
+ 5. Anna Maria, m Johannes Hondsicker (Hunsinger)
+ 6. George (Jurry), m(1) Anna Catharina Hagedorn; m(2) Anna Maria Cooper
+ 7. Johannes, m Eva Van Etten
+ 8. Samuel, m(1) Rebecca Feller; m(2) Eliza Kiefer (Knifer)
+ 9. Heinrich, m Barbara Haver
10. Werner, m Maria Kreller (no issue)
+ 11. Philip, m Eva Trevor (Treber)
+ 12. Jacob, m Magdalena Kreller
WERNER HEINER (Warner), married Maria Kreller. He was a sponsor to a Bernhardt
Heiner on 15 Oct 1751 (Loonenburg Luth), and to Catharina (#53), dau of Johannes Heiner
(Hener, Hohner, Honer) and Eva Van Etten in 1748 (RH Luth), and to other children given in this
book. It does not appear that he had any children of his own. We are not sure of his order of birth;
perhaps before Samuel (ca 1725), since he was a baptismal sponsor for #16 as early as 1742. He
might have been a twin (but not Samuel’s twin, who died).
There is a record of one Johannes Honsinger, a Palatine arriving on the SS Robert Ann 11 Sept 1733.
There is record of one Johannes Hutziger taking the Oath of Alligence, Dutchess Co NY 25 Apr 1743.
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It would appear that from this union came one Petrus Honsinger ( Hunzinger), as Petrus married a Debora
and had two children one Petrus born 23 06 1773 and one Johannes born 12 04 1779. Both children were baptized in 1779 and at that time thier mother Debora was listed as deceased.
Johannes Hunzinger and his wife Margareth were the witness at the christening. There is a Hunzinger or Horsiner family that emigrated to the Alburgh Vermont area, close to where the Creller can be traced, it has not yet been confirmed that
Anna Margararet Creller was of this particular Vermont , Hunzinger family
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Dec 27 1761 Albany New York |
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Children of Susanna Creller and David York 1800 ( David assumed to have died before the census taking) The 1800 census records for the town of Hoosic N Y list a Peter York, whom we assume is David York's brother and Susan York
Peter as head of house hold has : 1 male under 10 , 1 male ( probably himself) 26-45 , two females under 10 and 1 female 26-45 ( probably his wife)
Susan as head of household has : 2 males under 10 , 1 male 10-16, 1 male 26-25 , two females under 10, 1 female 16-26 and 1 female over 45 ( probalby herself)
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Elizabeth 22 Apr 1775
David York jr 27 July 1777
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Albany New York |
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Pieter Creller
1742-1818
As of August 2005, it is believed that Peter Creller did not marry, but remained single, not records of any union have been located for him. After having lost his holdings in the new formed United States, the grant of land that he received in Canada was left to his nephew, son of Phillip.
Records show one Peter Craller, holding lease of 87 acres of land at East Manor , Rensaelar, N Y as of June 19, 1770
There is a Peter Creller (farmer of NY) listed on the role list of the King's Rangers, more commonly called Roger's Rangers.
There is evidence that Peter Crawler, Peter Crawler (jr) and John Crawler were members of Capt Abraham Van Aernam's Company posted above Poesten Kill in 1767. In this listing we find John Hunsinger, Hendrick Young, Peter Bacchus, Jacob Martin, John Jacob Primmerman,Jacob and Peter Rosenberger and Baltus Kammel, all famillies that intermarried to the Creller family.
There is a list in the Canadian archives listing the members of Loyalist soldiers who had fallen under the command of Samuel McKay , who had taken over the command of Col Francis Pfister who was killed at Bennington. On this list we find both Peter Creller and Phillip Creller as having been taken prisioner by the Rebels ( the Americans). John Hunsinger, Jacob Rosenberger, Jacob Hainer jr, Frederick Hainer jr, listed as prisioners, Peter Bockus, Frederick Bockus as having been killed , Henry Ploss, John Near, Frederick Hainer , John Hunsigner, Jacob Hunsinger and Jacob Hainer were listed as Private. The list was made out Dec 20 1777 at Chateauguay Quebec.
We can only assume that perhaps the name of Johannes Creller may be one day found on a similar listing.
In the record at Albany, there is a commiittee report stating that Peter Craller was being liberated from confinement upon his entry into Bond of Security for his appearance and future good behavior dated Feb 1778 . There are also records that one Peter Creller, Henry Catchapah, and Charles Near were member of Roger's Rangers - or the Kings Rangers.
We have Johannes Housinger and Johannes Plowts ( Ploss) listed as members of the Royal Yorkers, or King's Rangers.
Peter Craller appears on a census in 1790 as residing at that time on the Canadain side of the border as a loyalist refugee.
Some historical notes on Bennington V T
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August 15 1777 August 16 Stung by the defeat at Bennington and increasingly frustrated by his failure to keep the army supplied, Burgoyne writes Lord Germaine complaining bitterly about his situation: "The great bulk of the country is undoubtedly with Congress in principle and zeal; and their measures are executed with a secrecy and dispatch that are not to be equaled. Wherever the King's forces point, militia to the amount of three or four thousand assemble in twenty-four hours; they bring with them their subsistence, etc., and the alarm over, they return to their farms. The Hampshire Grants [present-day Vermont] in particular, a country unpeopled and almost unknown in the last war, now abounds in the most active and rebellious race in the continent, and hangs like a gathering storm on my left..." 5
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I had thought that Anna might have been married to on Hendrich Young a neighbour who had his name listed with the Loyalist forces of 1767. A child of Hendrich and one Anna, was bron 1782, Margareth and the witness to the christening was Phillip Creller. Unfortunately I have not been able to find any documented evidence that clearly establishes a relationship between Hendrich Young and Anna Creller as of 2008 . so until it is determined to be so , I shall leave Anna Creller waiting here for her soulmate.
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Jacob Martin
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Catrina Martin
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Abraham 7 Mar 1778
Annatje 25 Oct 1766
Catrina 10 Oct 1782
Derick 15 Aug 1768
Jacob 9 Aug 1775
Johannes 19 Apr 1780
Marytje 17 Feb 1771
Petrus 21 Jul 1773
Philippus 29 Apr 1785
Ebenezer 18 June 1791
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Petrus Martin (21 July 1773) & Elizabeth Smith
Elizabeth 3 Oct 1791
Peter 18 Jul 1795
For a more complete Martin family record we direct you to Regi Milan's web page ....
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| Peter Creller 1785-1870 |
Rufus Creller 1787-1865 |
Johannes Creller
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Polley Kimmel Creller
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| David Creller 1805- |
From the information available (as of 2004) ,we know that Peter Creller was born in Red Hook NY and that his brother Rufus was born in Hoosic NY and that Polly was baptized in Schaghticoke NY . The names of the above children were culled from the records in the register's office in Bedford Quebec, the known dates confirmed with the inscriptions on the tomb stones found in the area. No record or any stone has been located for Phillip's wife, who we assume may have passed away before the family settled in the Stanbridge area. The fact that Polley Creller has been given the middle name of Kimmel or Cammel and given the assumption that the Kimmel or Cammel family was among the families that have been found to be associated with the Creller, one might assume that Phillip's wife was a Kimmel or Cammel. ( research still remains to be undertaken)
There is one Philip Crellior who served in Captain Augustine Odele' Company of Lt Colonel H K Van Ranssalear's
Regiment of Albany Country Militia, and a Peter Crawler Sr., listed with another Loyalist force, along with a Peter
and a John Crawler
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1777 West Camp Colony of New York |
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Jacob Rosenberger
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Maria Rosenberger
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Anna Rosenberger
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Johannes Rosenberger
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Elizabeth Rosenberger
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Catharina Rosenberger
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Magdalane Rosenberger
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George Rosenberger
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Maria Rosenberger 22 Apr 1780 - 26 Mar 1813
Anna Rosenberger 30 Jan 1782 -
Caty Rosenberger 13 Jun 1798 - 11 02 1820
Laney Rosenbeger 08 Sept 1791 - 09 Feb 1824
Jacob Rosenberger 05 Feb 1778 -
Johannes Rosenberger 22 Apr 1784-
Elizabeth Rosenberger 23 Apr 1789-
George Rosenberger 17 Apr 1801 -
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George's father was John/Jacob Rosenberger, his mother Regina ( Unknown). George also had brothers Martin -Jacob- John and Peter ( possible others)
It is firmly believed that Peter Rosenberger born 1746, is the Peter that moved up into the Stanbridge Quebec area along with Peter Creller and his family
George Rosenberger is shown as having leased 573 acres in Peterburg, Resleaner NY, and as having an additional lease of some 83 acres at East Manor. as of Sept 3 1789
Peter is shown as having leased some 100 acres in East Manor Aug 6 , 1773
Johnnais Roseberg is shown as a leasee, but no indication is given as to the location nor acerage, leased.
Johannes Creller
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The 1820 US Census lists a John (Johannes) Creller living at Whitehall NY in this family there are 1 Male in the age range under 5 (John jr) 1 Male in the age range 26-45 (certainly Johannes himself) 3 Females in the age range under 5 ( Hannah , Adaline, Nancy) 1 Female in the age range 5-16 (Charlotte) 1 Female in the age range 26-45( most likely Mary Brown, Johannes's wife) 1 Female in the age range 45 + (could be Mary Brown's mother) |
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The 1830 US Census lists a John (Johannes) Creller living at Whitehall NY in this family there are 2 Males in the age range under 5 (Jacob , Nelson) 1 Male in the age range 15-20 (John jr) 1 Male in the age range 40-50 (certainly Johannes himself) 2 Females in the age range 5-10 (Adaline ,Nancy and or Hannah) 1 Female in the age range 15-20 |
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The 1840 US Census lists a John (Johannes) Creller living at Whitehall NY in this family there are 1 Male in the age range 5-10 (most likley Lafayette) 1 Male in the age range 10-15 (most likley Rufus) 1 Male in the age range 50-60 (certainly Johannes himself) 1 Male in the age range 70-80 (perhaps his father in law as Philip his father , died in 1831) 2 Females in the age range 15-20 ( Adaline and Nancy without too much doubt) 1 Female in the age range 40-50 ( Mary Brown , Johannes's wife) |
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A copy of the 1930 application made by Charles J Creller, for membership in the Sons of the American Revolution California Chapter
( as posted on Ancestry .com ) national number 40772 State number 1227, which was accepted in 1932 has provided some more light into the Creller family records.
I have corrected some of my initial BMD dates in light of this find however I have been unable to collaborate some of the detail that Charles has put
on his application with the mention of a Jacob Creller , unless Jacob isin fact a Jacob Peter or a Jacob Rufus or perhaps Jacob Phillip . As copied from application Unknown (either in England or Canada) on ( records unobtainable) . I was born on the 24th of July 1870 . i am the son of John Creller, born Feb 23rd 1846, who died May 15 1922 and his wife Sara B. White born 12 16 1850 died 9 4 1911, married 7 1 1869. Grandson of Nelson Creller born 3 2 1825 died 5 15 1891, his wife Jane A Young born 9 22 1822 , died 3 27 1899 , married 1845 . Great grandson of John Creller ( records unobtainable) Great great grandson of Phillip Creller The services of my ancestor Philip Creller during the war of the revolution were as follows : Private - Van Renselear Regiment - Odell's Company, - page 351 Archives of the state of New York Vol 1 To this point the information I have managed to collect confers with that of Charles J Creller In the application for membership , Charles J Creller has added these notes : The Creller family history prior to my grandfather's family (Nelson) is very little known. There are no family records prior to the brothers and sisters of my grandfather. Some little history has been handed down from mouth to mouth ; Philip and his brother Jacob Creller had a serious quarrel shortly after reaching New York State. Jacob dropped an L from his name and the only reference there after found is when he enlisted as a drummer April 1777, 3 years - Col Wm Malcom's Regiment, one of the 16 regiments in Continental service , officered by Gen Washington , credited to New York Capt Seaford's company ( page 241 archives of New York) . It is surmised that Jacob Creler died during the war for no branch of the Creller family by that name is known of either in the USA or Canada. I have been unable to locate anything on Jacob Creler or Jacob Crellerthat would allow confirmation of this assumption |
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Isaac , his first wife Libbie , along with his second wife Hannah are buried at the Greenmount Cemetery in Whitehall N Y - There is one Jennie Virgil 1879-1970 buried in same cemetery
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Notes from Charles J.Creller: State that listed in his grandfather's bible are John Creller bor Feb 23 1846 in Conquest NY Peter Creller born July 1849 in Cato NY and William Creller born May 10 1857 in Victory N Y Charles wrote : From William Creller, my uncle , I learned that John Creller was the name of my great grandfather, having never seen his grandmother, he had forgotten her name, the tombstones having disappeared from the above graves. There are two branches of the Creller family in the USA one of Canadian origin (David Creller of Fankfort county Ont) and the other descendants of Philip Creller (perhaps the Vermont Creller) Jane A Young wife of Nelson Creller was a direct descendant of the Carpenters who settled on Long Island, the records of the family were destroyed in 1876 or 1877 when Ralph Deering started for England with the records to prove title to property interests and was murdered in NY and the records stolen or destroyed. Sarah Borden White mother's name |
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Creller , Margaret Elizabeth RED CREEK; Age 85 died Saturday, Sept 2 ,2006 at home with her family by her side. |
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RED CREEK - Marriage, according to Harold Creller, works best when there is compromise. And Creller should know. He and his wife Margaret Elizabeth were married 67 years before she died Sept. 2. She was 85. Harold Creller is 88.The Crellers ran Creller's Meat Market for 34 years in the former Pitcher's Red and White. Not only were they husband and wife; they were business partners, too. Harold met Margaret Frazer in 1938 at the Red Creek Firemen's Field Days, he said. "Now Grandpa, I remember Grandma saying you met at a Valentine's Day dance,"said his granddaughter, Peggy Creller-Greenwood, who came into Creller's living room during the interview, carrying a laundry basket. Her grandson, Zeke Hollier, 3, tagged along. "No, no; that was later," said Creller, who joined the Red Creek Fire Department when he was in his teens and has been a member ever since. "We met at a field days. Margaret had come from Wolcott; she was one of nine children and she moved to Red Creek to help out in the Tabor household, Harold said. "They had a big family," Creller said about Margaret's relatives.The couple courted for a year before the Rev. Horace Pittman married them at Ed Tabor's house, Harold said. He was 21 and Margaret was 19. Harold remembered that he worked until 10 p.m. in a meat market that day before arriving at the Tabors's home and saying his wedding vows at about 11:30 p.m. He said in those days, he earned $15 a week. The couple set up housekeeping on Main Street in Red Creek next to a church. They lived there and raised four sons: Harold T. (Robin) Creller Jr. of Alabama, Charles (Shirley) Creller of Fair Haven, James (Dee) Creller of Baldwinsville and Steve Creller of Red Creek. They also raised Creller-Greenwod. She now lives in Wolcott and comes each day to spend time with Creller, doing light chores and preparing his meals. She is one of Creller's 12 grandchildren, 23 great grandchildren and six great-great great grandchildren. The couple moved to the ranch house on Westbury Road in 1968, when the house was new. The Crellers opened their own meat market in 1950. "Before opening Creller's Market in Pitcher's Red and White, I was approached by Guy Parsons of Port Byron and Russ Cramer of N. Fair Haven to start our market in the R and W," Creller said. Mr. Pitcher was the stepson of Mr. Parsons," he said. "Previously, I was employed as a meat cutter at Mackies IGA, which was next door." Creller said he can remember a time when there were five groceries or meat markets in Red Creek. He said he got into retail because it was one of the few jobs that were available at the end of the Great Depression. "It was tough going; you took any job available," he said. He also recalls when he and his son Jim, looking for a niche business, decided to start selling ground turkey. They were doing it in the bigger stores back in 1973, when beef prices were rising.The Crellers got turkey thighs from Plainview Farms and started grinding. It took a while to catch on, Creller said. "It was hard to get started," he said. "We had to give out free samples and talk it up." Although he worked in retail businesses nearly all of his life, he left it during World War II to work at the International Harvester plant in Auburn. He was a die fitter, turning out airplane engine cowling under a sub-contact with Curtis Wright. "I think that was 1942" he said. Eight years later, they opened their own store. It operated until 1984, when Crellers retired. Creller said he and his wife simply enjoyed staying home together, but they also enjoyed weekends, when they would go fishing and camping, sometimes to the Adirondacks. Margaret hadn't been well for the past three or four years, Creller said. She suffered from diabetes. She went into a nursing home Easter Sunday this year and then died about six months later. After being married for so long, it' been difficult without Margaret, Creller said. He still likes to fish, and twice a day, he makes his way to the 104 Store in Red Creek, which he calls "the gossip place." And he has his family, where compromise still comes in handy. "What would you like to drink, Grandpa?" Creller-Greenwood asked as she prepared to make him lunch."Well, what do you have?" he asked. |
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David Creller
of
Murray Township,
Northumberland County,
Ontario, Canada,
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Adelle Creller |
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Francis Keech |
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Grady Keech |
Rene Keech |
Laurie Keech |
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Helen Creller |
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Stephen Hearns |
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Helen Creller |
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Merle Green |
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Helen Creller |
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John Henry Laurenze |
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Compliments of Darrin Pollard
Hiram Creller
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Hiram Creller (jr) |
John E Creller |
Jeremiah James Creller |
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Matilda Creller |
Francis Creller |
Addy Creller |
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William Creller |
Frederic Creller |
Hatty Creller |
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Herbert Creller |
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Dates of birth of the children taken from 1881 Canadian Census records, Port Hope Durham East, Ont. the family name was deciphered as TRELLER. The dates of death taken as given by Peter Gendron
Jane Drummond was of Irish extract, her father John Diamond , her mother Matilda Brise ( uncertain)
Peter also has a Herbert C Creller 1879-1966 but he did not show up on the 1881 census. In the 1901 Canada Census we find the family listed as Creeler, Hiram, Jane, Bert and May are living in Toronto west . On the 1911 Canada census we find Bert Cullen listed as 32 year old born 1878 living with his mother Jane A Cullen at the home of Phillip James Cooper , who married May , and they also were in Toronto Ont.
Jerimiah does not appear on the 1901 census listing so it can be assumed that he died before the new century arrived
Peter has a Rebecca Creller which we have assumed is the Bestie as listed in 1881
We have a Harriett Creller who died in 1900 at 23 years of age in Toronto lived at 205 Crawford St
James who died in 1920, had issue , his son in law was H J Smith of Wallace Ave Toronto
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John E Creller |
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Martha Unknown |
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Francis Creller |
Married |
Fanny Unknown |
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Frank Creller (jr) |
Mae Elease Creller |
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Mae Elease Creller |
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Phillip James Cooper |
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Audrey Cooper |
Vera Mae (Jacqueline) Cooper |
Gladys Winnifred Cooper |
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Blanche Yvonne Cooper |
Alma Cooper |
James Kitchener Cooper |
The 1901 Canada Cesus shows this family listed at Creeler , not Creller . The 1911 Canada Census shows Phillip and May, living in Toronto with their three daughters and also Bert (Creller) Cullen and his mother ( grandmother to May Creller ) Jane A Cullen . This particular Creller family has been treated unfairly by the Census takers as the spelling of thier name has not yet been found to be correct.
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Vera Mae (Jacqueline) Cooper |
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Also tracing these Creller family lines are :
Peter Gendron - Hiram Creller , b 27 Jul 1836 ,machinist for the Polson and Co Iron Works Toronto Ont, who married Jane Ann Diamond b 24 May 1841 Cobourg Ont.
As of Jan 2005, Peter does not seem to have internet capabilities but can be reached by snail mail at 536 4th Ave W, Owen Sound, Ont. N4K 4V4
Janet Caswell - Lottie Creller born Feb 26 1900 Bedford Qc and believed to have been brought up by her maternal grandmother Rebina Rouse Caswell Satwell . Janet can be reached at [email protected]
Nellie Fish David Creller & Adam H Creller , believed to have originated from the Eastern Township area of Quebec and landing in the Murray Township of Northumberland and Durham Counties Ont around 1846 - ( unfortunately we no longer have a valid email for Nellie ) I can provide you with her snail mail address if you contact me at [email protected]
Adelle Keech David and Adam Creller is also tracing the above family lines, she can be reached at [email protected]
Charles Penasack Adam Creller has also researched this family line he may be reached at [email protected]
Regi Milan - Hannah Martin, of Stanbridge, wife of William Norton, from New York to Vermont in 1787, then to Stanbridge she has death record for Hannah 1842 .
Hannah is the daughter of Elisabeth Creller and Petrus Maerten married 17 Jun 1765
Regi may be reached at [email protected]
James S Creller - Alonzo Creller 1879- 1968 lived in Wolcott N Y . James may be reached at (unfortunately we no longer seem to have a valid e-mail for James)
Susan Creller - Harold Creller Sr. 1919- family of Alonzo Creller . Susan may be reached at [email protected]
Gary Creller of Michigan - grandfather George Creller, black smith who married Pearl Edith Allen, his brother Arthur Creller and his great grand father named perhaps "Arzy" Creller . Gary can be reached at [email protected]
Linda Creller Fisher - Jacob Creller , Revolutionary war period 1770 -1777, Linda may be reached at [email protected]
Gilbert Leach Kranzt- Kreller Gilbert is very knowledgeable of the area in which all these familes first established themselves, Gilbert may be reached at [email protected]
The Palatinate family
WOLLENBEN
This information was accumulated and processed following many years of hard work and steady commitment to genealogy research by Mr Wayne V Jones of Huston Texas. Without his deidcated efforts and expertise in dephicering the the early records of time we would know very little about the origins of our family the Wollenbens, if any thing at all. The complexe issuse surrounding the movement of the Palatinate people in Europe and their wanderings to the new world is a maze of situations few would dare to tread, and even fewer would be successful in arriving at reasonable conclusions.
With the multitude of military skirmishes, all out wars and many geneocidial schemes that have occurred in the area of the origins of the Palatinate people, it is littl wonder that any records at all survived and can be consulted. Military actions first and foremost create disruptions to our daily habits, our daily habit of recording information is abruptley halted , and in some cases not reinstated at the same location, or not reinstated at alll.
Families are decimated, papers are destroyed, and even churches are burned with out a second thought as to what value any of this has had up to that time.
Men and women for that matter, when ever they decide that an opportunity has arrisen to enrich themselves and thier lives, do not consider at any time , that they may be indeed inflicting much suffering upon thier fellow man/woman. This is has been shown time and time again thoughtout our history, back to the Bibical days , right up , to our own actual daily times, and no doubt will carry on beyond our times into the continuing generations.
Today however we are most fortunate to have several options for recorded information and in most cases we would be able to reconstruct the genealogy information as it pertains to our immediate families. We owe one great deal of appreciation to Mr Wayne V Jones for the information he has provided and we trust that the following will be of much interest to you, the descendants of the Palatinate family WOLLENBEN .
Extracts of Mr Wayne V Jones records :
The earliest know ancestor of all the American Wohlleben emigrants who arrived in 1710 was Peter Wollenben, a locksmith at St Johaan, Saarbrucken, who married 29 April 1601 Barabra Blasbach. Peter married a second time in 1624 on Catharina ( Unknown) .
A son of Peter was Pastor Johann Paulus Wollenben. Johann was Pastor in Altstetten 1624-1635 and a school teacher at Homburg 1625-1632, and in 1635 was obliged to flee to Saarbruken and Metz during the 30years war.
In 1645 we find Pastor Johann at Kallstadt near Bad Durkheim, in 1646 a schoolteacher in the district of Bassel, Switzerland and in 1647/48 Pastor Johann back again in Altstadt.
Pastor Johann was at Altenbaumberg and appears to have died around or before 1676. He had married Barbara Schumacher of Bassel, a daughter of Hans Schumacher and his wife Agnes Ruoff, who was baptized at St Elizabeth Basel 18 Jan 1618.
From the union of Johann Paulus Wollenben and Barabara Schumacher
we have
Maria Barabra 1656 at Kallstadt
Christoph
Johann Peter ( Hans Peter) 8 Sept 1646
Walrath 20 Oct 1648
Anna Catharina 1651 .... who married Johann Michael Languth ... she died 20 Nov 1688 .. 37 years old
Johann Rupert ......... who married Anna Catharina Unknown
Walrath ( Walrab) Wollenben was inducted into the service of the Court and was sponsoered to the Lering family in 1673. He married in 1676 at Hochheim near Worms to Anna Catharina Baumann, a daughter of Hans Peter Baumann , a citizen and cooper of Bacharach.
Anna Catharina Baumann - Wollenben appears to have arrived in America, as she appears on the Hunter list in 4 July 1710 along with five persons in the family. She continues to be listed untill 1716/1717 where upon she is listed as a widow. --- (Now Mr Jones does not provide any details as to the disposition of Walrath, from the manner in which he has provided the information I assume that Walrath himself did not make it to America, and have to assume that either he was not alive at the departure time, or that he died during the voyage, as many a poor soul did , on that long and ardous trip to the New world)
From the union of Walrath Wollenben and Anna Catharina Baumann we have
Johann Peter ( Hans Peter) born 28 Jan 1677
Johann Henrich 23 Dec 1679
Maria Catharina 22 Dec 1685 ............ married Johann Henrich Spohn 20 Feb 1711 at West Camp
Catharina Margaretha 15 Sept 1688
Anna Margaretha 16 Feb 1690
Sarah Catharina 18 Apr 1691 ........ married George Martin Dillenbach probably at West Camp
Maria Sussana 22 Feb 1695 .......... married Laurens van der Vogen probably at West Camp
Johann Nicolaus 9 Feb 1698
Anna Margareta 23 Mar 1701..................... married Christian Berg 7 Aug 1722
and possibily
Anna Elisabetha before 1685 ...................nay have married Stephen Frolich
Johann Peter Wollenben ( Hans Peter) was a baker at Roxheim , he married Angne Odenheimer, daughter of Niclas Odenheimer, on th 9th of July 1697. His wife and 5 children are listed on Capt Johan Rannel's shipping records leaving Rotterdam in 1709 .
It could be assumed that since Johann Peter married once again Ange Odenheimer died perhaps during child birth of Elizabetha, or that she passed away during the ardous journey to America. Which ever it is we find Johann Peter Wollenben married to Anna Rosina Forster before April of 1711.
John aged 33, his wife, sons aged 5 and 8 and daughters aged 10, 4 and 1. The family arrived in England that year. Peter Wollenben first appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 . Johon Petter Wollefen (Wollnfon) was naturalized the 8 and 9 of Sept 1715.
A Peter Wolleber and Anna Rosina with 5 children can be found on the Beckmanlands roll in 1716/1717.
A Peiter Wouleben appears on the North Ward rolls in 1717/1718 and continued to be recorded until 1723/1724 ( Dutchess Co. tax lists)
Peter Woolever was a freeholder of Amwell in 1741, and was most likely the Pitter Wooleve who signed the Articles of Order and Dicipline of the German Ref Church of Amwell 1 Dec 1749.
From the union of Johann Peter Wollenben and Agnes Baumann we have the following
Anna Maria 9 Mar 1698 at Roxheim died 1700
Anna Margaretha 22 Nov 1699 at Roxheim
Johann Jacob 20 Nov 1701 at Roxheim
Johann Peter 3 Feb 1704 at Langenlonsheim
Elizabeth Catherina 30 May 1706 at Langenlonsheim
From the union of Johann Peter Wollenben and Anna Rosina Foster we have the following
Johann Henrich 4 Nov 1711 at West Camp
Sussanna 27 Dec 1713 at West Camp
Anna Barbara 8 jan 1716 at West Camp
Catharina Elisabetha 12 Jan 1718 at West Camp
Anna Maria 23 Oct 1720 at West Camp
Johann Nicolaus Wollenben , was the sponsor of Johann Henrich Widerwachs in 1711, and Henrich Spohn at Schoharie in 1716. Nicolas Welleven was a patentee on the south side of the Mohawk River 30 Apr 1725 ( Burnetsfield Patent)
Nicolas Wohlleben was a member at the Fall 1744 ( Sommer's family List in the Schohaire church book)
One of the wifes of Johann Nicolaus was daughter of Nicolaus Feller ( will of Nicolus Feller)
The will of Nicolaus Wohleben of Brunetsfield was datef Feb 23 1773 and probated 11 Nov 1783
The union of Johann Nicolaus Wollenben and most likely the ( Maria Elisabetha) daughter of Nicolaus Feller produced the following
Sophia
Henrich of Stone Arabia .... married Magdalena / Margaretha
Peter of Stone Arabia married Catharina Flack 17 Jul 1765 ( may have been Piter Wohlleber of Capt Mark Petry's company in 1757 )
Catharina ................ married Friederich Schumacher June 1750 at the Falls
Elisabetha
Dieterich .............. married Anna Elisabeth Deigert/Tygart 8 Mar 1770 Stone Arabia
Johannes
Anna Maria ..........married Friederich Muller 26 June 1749 Schoharie
Magaleana
Abraham ................ married Margaret Stahring had daughter Margaret Wohlenben bapt 15 07 1803
Anna born 3 May 1759
Jacob born 10 Jan 1761 Stone Arabia
Nicolaus
Johann Jacob Wolenben baptized at Roxheim 20 Nov 1701 was naturalized 8/9 Spet 1715. Jacob Woolleven was first recoded on the North ward rolls in 1726/1727 and continued to be listed unti 1733
( Dutches Co Tax lists)
Jacob Woolever was a freeholder of Amwell in 1741. A History of East Amwell 1700-1800 has many references to this family. His will was dated 2 Feb 1744 and was probated 30 mar 1774.
Johann Jacob married 31 May 1720 Maria Elizabeth Schwitzeler. They had issue baptized at New York City, Rhinebeck Flats Reform Church.
( Unfortuately for us Mr Jones did not pursue this line any further so it is now open forn any one wishing to complete it and bring it up to date)
Johann Peter Wollenben was baptised at Roxheim 3 Feb 1704 and more than likely naturalized 8/9 Sept 1715 with the rest of his family, married Margaretha Vink ( Fink).
The will of Peter Willever of Kansfiled Woodhouse Twp, Sussex Co NJ was dated 1767 and probated that year.
( Unfortuately for us Mr Jones did not pursue this line any further so it is now open forn any one wishing to complete it and bring it up to date)
Johann Henrick Wollenben baptized 4 Nov 1711 . Henry and his brother Peter Wooliever of Amwell were listed in a poll for an election 9 Oct 1738.
The will of Henry Woolever of Amwell Twp, carpenter was dated 9 Oct 1739 and was probated 17 Nov 1739 the will does mention Ann , his wife and children in detail
( Unfortuately for us Mr Jones did not pursue this line any further so it is now open forn any one wishing to complete it and bring it up to date)
Christoph Wohleben was listed as a son of Pastor Johann Paulus Wohlenben ( Wollenben) on the NY emmigrant list. Christoph and his wife Gertraud were recorded at Steinbockenheim as early as 1686.
Christoph Wohleben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 with two person over the age of 10 accompanying him.
From the union of Christoph Wollenben and Gertraude ( Unknown) we have
Johann Philip confirmed 1688 age 15 ( born abt 1673) Steinbockenheim
Anna Barbara confirmed 1688 at age of 12 Steinbockenheim
Johann Valentin confirmed 1694 aged 15 Steinbockenheim
Johann Michael baptized 24 Feb 1686
Anna Eva baptized 1 Aug 1688 she was buried 1 Sept 1688 aged 5 weeks
Johann Jacob baptized 7 jan 1693 Steinbockenheim
Johann Philip Wollenben born abt 1673 , may ha ve have been same Johan Wollenben listed along with Han Miggel Wollenben on Capt Thomas Key's ship list in 1709 sailing from Rotterdam.
Philipp Wohlenben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 along with one person over the age of 10
Philipp Wollenben was listed in Mar 25 1712 , residing with a widow Gebelin, and 3 person over age of 10
Fillib Wolleber was naturalized Sept 8/9 1715
Philipp Wolleber was recorded with Valentin Wolleber at Beckmansland 1716/1717
Phililp Wollenben was tazed 5(pounds) in the Highlands in 1720/1721 ( Ulster Co tax records)
Papers in the estate of Philip Wallaven were issued 30 May 1727
No record of a marriage for Johann Philip has been located howver we do have records of several children
From the union of Johann Phillip Wollenben and Anna Margaretha we have the following
Anna Margarteha born 12 May 1714 West Camp NY
Johannes.................married 26 March 1745 to Anna Margaretha Wuerst at Tulpehocken
Johann Valentin confirmed 1694 aged 15 Steinbockenheim , is most probably noted as Hans Felten Wollenben with his wife and 3 children on Capt Thomas Key's ship list out of Rotterdam in 1709.
Valentin Wohlenben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 with a wife and two children. Valentine Wollenben turns up in Ulster Co West Camp 1711 census as being himself and his wife, leaving us to assume that the two children who may have begun the journey to the New world did not in fact live very long.
Vallentyn Wolleven was naturalized at the same time as a majority of his family that being the 8/9 of Sept in 1715.
( it is really unfortunate that the family were not recorded in more detail than they were, and it really would have been constructive to have the same register record members of the same family, then all his spelling would have been the same even if they were misspelt to begin with)
We have a Valentin Wolleber and his wife Sussana listed a Beckmanlan in 1716/1717, and a Hans Feelten Woleven on the North Wards in 1717/1718 and was listed continously until 1755 Dutchess Co tax List.
It would appear that Valentine had married Sussana XXX before they undertook the voyage to the New world, as not other marriage records for Valentin have been located
From the union of Johann Valentine Wollenben and Sussana we have the following
Johann Henrich baptized 18 March 1708 at Saalstatadt possibly died at West Camp NY
Anna Maria Dorthea born 10 Nov 1714 at West Camp NY ... married Peter Kreller/Creller
Anna Margaretha 14 Apr 1717 at West Camp NY
Johann Michael Wollenben 24 Feb 1686, or Hans Miggel Wolleben was listed with a wife and one child on Capt Thomas Key's shipping list out of Rotterdam in 1709.
Michael Wohleben appears on the Hunter list 4 July 1710 with what appears to be only his wife.
In order for the researcher to understand a bit more of the reasons why there is such a great difficulty in
establishing the particulars of any one of these Palatinate family origins
I have linked this site to two wonderful history stories that have been put on the net courtesy of the rootsweb genealogy program.
After having read the history as it is set out for us, it becomes much easier to understand why there is so much confusion in the names and places and who is who ,
or who belongs to whom. It has to be remembered also that the majority of the population at that time were unschooled, they could not read, nor write.
They never knew how their name was supposed to be written so they would never correct the way it appeared in the records.
We have a majority of the population speaking not only many languages, but many dialects within those languages, and this may or may not
have been accompanied with a diction that was not articulated properly. Even today in America, often a schooled person speaking American English
if he was from Texas, would have trouble understanding a person of the same status from say Long Island NY, while both would be using the same words,
the texture of the speaking, the speed of the speaking and even the pronunciation of such words as Tomato, and Potato , could lead one or the other to record the
conversation differently.
To a point in fact I just have to take my name Macfie and talk to some people over the telephone,
let me tell you I would get a dozen replies all addressed to me but with my name spelt a dozen different ways .
Now this is the year 2003, and the majority of the population is educated, well at least most of us can read and write.
Imagine back in 1710 that I had a speech impediment, or that I had a hair lip, or stuttered, or was just nervous and did not speak loud
enough when I came up to the table to register as a resident of this new world , I told you who I was ( again not knowing how my name was
supposed to be written) and you wrote it in your not so wonderful hand writing ( you of course were not a poet but perhaps just some Sergent
who had had a few lessons of schooling ), these papers were filed away in some damp basement of some building that had been damaged by the weather, or a war or two.
Then one day some one out of the blue, some 200 years later decides that it might be a good thing to recopy the records for prosperity.
HOW would my name appear !!!!!!!! How would your name appear !!!!!!!!
That is why we have to have some good faith, a bit of guess work and a little bit of luck to make a family tree look that it is indeed our family tree .
Do not necessarily look at the spelling of the name, better yet put some marbles in your mouth and then try pronouncing the name, you just might be
surprised to see who turns up.
