Polsgrove: Descendants of John George Paltzgraff-Original Immigrant
NOTE OF EXPLANATION
During the development of Jacob's Page, I kept it foremost. Most of that is finished, so I have brought the page of George-the Immigrant back to the front. Jacob's page can be found at the link in the DIRECTORY below, or you can go there now:Jacob2Clickor hereJacob2Click
THE FAMILY PAGE
OF
JOHN GEORGE PALTZGRAF
b. ca. 1700, d. 1757
and
ANNA MARIA BARBARA KAMM
md. ca. 1734
Original Immigrant from Niederbron, FranceJohn GeorgeOur original immigrant ancestor
This is now the RESOURCE page for this website with links to all the pages for INDIVIDUAL families. What follows then are references to and links for pages here and websites elsewheres for Palsgrove information.
WHAT IS A PALATINE?
What is a Palatine?
PALATINES TO AMERICA
Palatines to America
Historical background of Montgomery County, where George's family lived together from 1733 to 1784:Click here
Probable Father of our John George Pfalzgraf
John Jacob Pfaltzgraff, of Niederbroenn, Alsace, France. [There is the strongest possibility that this man and his wife Greta were the parents of both our John George as well as of Anna Margaretha, nee Pfaltzgraff,
daughter of John Jacob Pfaltzgraff and his wife Greta ___________, b. 9-22-1695, Alsace, France.]This John Jacob did not immigrate.
Johann Jacob Cuntz/Kuntz, Sr.: "In Niederbronn, Bas Rhin, Alsace, France, he was a shoemaker.
Anna Catharina Muller married Johannes George Kuntz, born 1665/1655; their son married Anna
Margaretha Pfalzgraf.
Arrived in America in Phila from Rotterdam on ship "Charming Nancy" on Nov 9 1738. His wife,
Anna Margaretha Pfalzgraf, died at sea. Of the 412 passengers on that ship, 250 died! The story
is written in Annette Burgert's "Eighteenth Century Immigrants from the Northern Alsace". Also
a writeup in "The Palatine Immigrant", Winter 1990/91, page 180, incl a sketch of the ship.
Anna Margaretha's death at sea is quite well documented. "According to several records, including
those of the Oley Hill Church, Berks County,(see link below), Anna Margaretha Pfalzgraf died at sea on the voyage
to America with her husband, Johann Jacob Kuntz, in 1738; she died in childbirth with an unnamed
child. The Alsatian (France) records show that all of Johann Jacob Kuntz's children were born in
Neiderbronn, Alsace, France, just over the border from Germany."
Source; Pfalzgraf genforum, genforum.com, article by Bill Brobst.
AN EMIGRATION STORY:
Sent to me by David Shiltz :
An article about Catharine Shoenberger, sister of Nathan Paltzgroff, from a
newspaper, probably the Warren, Ohio, paper, published in 1902 or 1903:
Extract from the above article about the reason George Paltzgraff left the Rhineland in 1732
"The traditional family history handed down from generation to generation, says that many years ago in the town of [............], in the Pfaltz, on the river Rhine in Germany, lived a Count [Graff] Pfaltzgroff [Count of the Pfaltz, i.e., Palatine], who had a large estate, also a large family of children.
Through a lack of thrift and industry the estate went to ruin and the children to work. Several came to America and settled in the state of Pennsylvania.
NOTE:I believe this story to be essentially true. Times were bad (see the articles about the Palatine emigration at the links above). And I would disagree that these people let their estate go to ruin on purpose. "Pfaltz" was and is a State (now) in Germany, not a town. I believe our family came from Niederbronn, which is about 15 miles from the French-German border. It is not on the Rhine river. Whether the family "Patrone" was a Count or merely a wealthy relative of the same name no-one has discovered yet. We know of only two who arrived in the 1730's, GEORGE, 1732, and GRETA, 1738, who died en-route at sea.
The gist of the truth is here and I will be adding other traditions later.
JEB
New Info
Thomas Spatz has information that John George Palsgrove was born in Wurtemburg in 1741. This is George-2 the oldest surviving son of George and Barbara (Kamp) Palsgrove. I hope people don't try to start another fictitious branch of the family from this one occurence. George Palsgrove and Philip Emmert were in Wurtemburg in 1741 on Kamp family business. There is no passenger info of the St Mark that shows the names of any spouses or children on board in 1741. So we really do not know if he was born there or back in Philadelphia Co. Emmert and Palsgrove were from Niederbronn, now in France. Until someone can prove otherwise, this is they way it stands in so far as I am concerned.
JEB
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A. Original Immigrant-John george Paltzgroff:
- John GeorgeOur original immigrant ancestor
B. In-Laws of J. George-1:
- Casper-KampFather-in-law of John George
C. Sons of J. George-1:
- George2Son of John George the immigrant. To see my most complete list of the sons and daughters of George-2 and Catharine, and in turn of their children Click Here
- Jacob2Son of John George and Ancestor of Kentucky Polsgroves
- Henry2Son of John George the immigrant.
Concise Chronology of Henry-2
D. Daughters of J. George-1:
- Mary-2 Mary-Daughter of John George-Immigrant-Fritsch
- Margaret2Daughter of John George the Immigrant
- Eva Catherine2Daughter of John George-Immigrant
- Jacobina2Daughter of John George the Immigrant
E. Sons of John Jacob-2, son of John George-1, the Immigrant:
- HenrySon of John Jacob2
- JacobSon of John Jacob2
- GeorgeSon of John Jacob2
F. Daughters of John Jacob-2, son of John George-1, the Immigrant:
- Margaret
- Catherine
- Mary
G. Sons of Henry-3, son of J. Jacob-2:
By wife-Nancy Lewis:
- George_MSon of Henry
- Alfred_T
- James_L
H. Children of George M., son of Henry and Nancy (Lewis) Polsgrove:
- Thomas_HSon of George_M
- Alice_Lee
- Andrew_J
I. Births, Marriages, Deaths:
- Necrology
J.Unconnectsed and-or Orphan Polsgroves:
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M. Palgrave-America and United Kingdom:
- Richard PalgraveOur English Cousin to Massachusetts-1630
- Palgrave Cousins in the U.K.
If you think the VARIANT spellings of this name in America (90) are a nightmare, take a look at the variants from England
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- Authors PageJohn Bristol's other webpages
O. Locales and Regions:
- Kentucky Information
Kentucky Research Resources for Grant, Harrison and Pendleton Counties, Kentucky: Click Here
Kentucky Research Resources for the Jackson Purchase: Click Here
A Southeast Missouri (SEMO) Resource: Click Here
CIVIL WAR-Both Sides
Polsgroves in the Civil War: all spelling variants (Palsgraf, Palsgrove, Pallsgrove, Pfaltzgraf, Pfalzgraf, Pfalzgraff, Polsgrove, Pollsgrove: Go to Civil War
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